Elementary, my dear Watson?

Started by Beelzenef September 19th, 2010 6:36 PM
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Age 20
Male
Seen May 2nd, 2011
Posted May 2nd, 2011
128 posts
13 Years
Information:

  • I do breeding projects so ask and I will try to breed it for you. I will VM you when your Pokemon is finished.
  • I clone and accept clones, if you have an issue with clones then this isn't the thread for you.
  • The Pokemon on this thread are all mine unless otherwise stated.
  • I like to give things out sometimes, so check back regularly for giveaways/contests.

Rules:

  • No hacked Pokemon.
  • Please be patient, I'm busy so if I haven't responded to your post and a page has passed re-post it in a quote and remind me.
  • I like to give user name credit to other people's Pokemon so please do the same for me. (Ex: Beelzenef's Bulbasaur)
  • My Pokemon are fully redistributable with user name credit unless it has Non-Redis next to its name. This states that you are not allowed to trade that Pokemon to others.
  • Do not PM/VM me unless I ask you to or I have VM'd you.
  • Do not ask "What do you want for...", I have my wants listed below. If anyone asks this without having something to offer their post will be ignored.

Wants:

  • IV bred Pokemon from either you or a reliable source. RNG abused Pokemon.
  • Male, egg moved Pokemon for my breeding purposes.

Services:

I can give you any item or TM in the game upon request with your trade. This means only if you are trading a Pokemon with me you can ask for a TM/item for your Pokemon to carry.

I offer breeding projects but I'm only doing 2 at a time. Only 1 breed per person. These are free but I keep a copy for myself to put in the shop. If you want egg moves you must provide the male parent with the egg move(s). I have the right to reject service to someone if I don't want to breed the Pokemon.

Pokemon:
Nature:
Gender:
Trait:
IVs:
Egg/TM moves:
Shiny (yes/no):

1.

2.

List of Nobles:

TwilightBlade

Trainer Info:


Soul Silver
Near
ID: 55304
FC: 1033 3551 3363


Kanto:


Bulbasaur or Venasaur
Nature: Mild
Trait: Overgrow
Lv. 1- Tackle | Power Whip | Sludge Bomb | Synthesis
Lv. 50- Sleep Powder | Power Whip | Sludge Bomb | Synthesis
IVs: 31 |31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 64 HP | 164 Attack | 96 Sp. Atk | 184 Speed
OT: Near • ID: 55304


blaQk's Ninetales
Nature: Timid
Trait: Flash Fire
Lv. 100- Hypnosis | Nasty Plot | Energy Ball | Flamethrower
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 252 Sp. Atk | 4 Sp. Def | 252 Speed
OT: blaQk • ID: 25863


Oddish
Nature: Timid
Trait: Chlorophyll
Lv. 1-Absorb | Teeter Dance | HP Fire
IVs: 31 | 30 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 30
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Alternative's Parasect
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Dry Skin
Lv. 50- Seed Bomb | X-Scissor | Pursuit | pore
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 252 HP | 252 Attack | 6 Sp. Def
OT: Hayley • ID: 04685


Psyduck or Golduck
Nature: Timid
Trait: Cloud Nine
Lv. 1- Water Sport | Scratch | Encore | HP Grass
Lv. 60- Calm Mind | Hydro Pump | Ice Beam | HP Grass
IVs: 30 | 31 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 31
EVs: 6 HP | 252 Sp. Atk | 252 Speed
OT: Near • ID: 55304


XDLugia's Ponyta
Nature: Jolly
Trait: Flash Fire
Lv. 1- Growl | Tackle | Morning Sun | Hypnosis
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 29 | 31 | 31
OT: John • ID: 37223


Seel or Dewgong
Nature: Modest
Trait: Hydration
Lv. 1- Headbutt | Surf | Ice Beam | Rain Dance
Lv. 50- Rest | Surf | Ice Beam | Rain Dance
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 252 HP | 4 Def | 252 Sp. Atk

OT: Near • ID: 55304


blaQk's Krabby
Nature: Jolly
Trait: Hyper Cutter
Lv. 1- Leer | Harden | Bubblebeam | Mud Shot
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
OT: blaQk • ID: 25863


Death_Mande's Lapras
Nature: Modest
Trait: Water Absorb
Lv. 1- Sing | Growl | Water Gun | Dragon Dance
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
OT: Luis • ID: 54624


Voltorb
Nature: Hasty
Trait: Soundproof
Lv. 1- Charge
| Charge Beam
IVs: 31
| 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Non-Redis
Exeggcute or Exeggutor
Nicknamed 'Lloyd'
Nature: Rash
Trait: Chlorophyll
Lv. 1- Barrage | Uproar | Hypnosis
Lv. 50- Sunny Day | SolarBeam | Psychic | Explosion
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 6 Attack | 252 Sp. Atk | 252 Speed
OT: Near • ID: 55304



Koffing
Nature: Bold
Trait: Levitate
Lv. 1- Poison Gas | Tackle | Pain Split | Will-O-Wisp
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Chansey
Nature: Bold
Trait: Natural Cure
Lv. 1-Pound | Growl | Ice Beam
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Alternative's Pinsir UT or EV trained
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Hyper Cutter
Lv. 1- Vice Grip | Focus Energy
Lv. 50- Stone Edge | X-Scissor | Swords Dance | Earthquake
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 26 | 31 | 31
EVs: 6 HP | 252 Attack | 252 Speed
OT: Hayley • ID: 04685


Magikarp or Gyrados
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Swift Swim | Intimidate
Lv. 1- Splash
Lv. 70- Dragon Dance | Waterfall | Stone Edge | Earthquake
IVs: 31 |31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 4 HP | 252 Attack | 252 Speed

OT: Near • ID: 55304


Eevee or Jolteon
Nature: Timid
Trait: Adaptability | Volt Absorb
Lv. 1- HP Grass | Shadow Ball | Flail | Iron Tail
Lv. 70- HP Grass | Shadow Ball | Thunder Bolt | Baton Pass
IVs: 30 | 31 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 31
EVs: 252 Sp. Atk | 4 Def | 252 Speed
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Kalsard's Flareon
Nature: Lonely
Trait: Flash Fire
Lv. 100- Fire Blast | Superpower | Return | HP Grass
IVs: 30 | 31 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 31
EVs: 192 Attack | 192 Sp. Atk | 124 Speed
OT: Simon • ID: 02546

Johto:


Cyndaquil
Nature: Modest
Trait: Blaze
Lv. 1- Tackle | Leer | Extrasensory | HP Ice
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 30
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Cyndaquil
Nature: Modest
Trait: Blaze
Lv. 1- Tackle | Leer | Extrasensory | HP Rock
IVs: 31 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 30 | 30

OT: Near • ID: 55304


Death_Mande's Feraligatr
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Torrent
Lv. 81- Dragon Dance | Ice Punch | Waterfall | Crunch
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 31
EVs: 30 HP | 252 Attack | 228 Speed
OT: Luis • ID: 54624


Alternative's Spinarak
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Insomnia
Lv. 1- Poison Sting | String Shot | Baton Pass
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 8 | 31 | 31
OT: Hayley • ID: 04685


Chinchou or Lanturn
Nature: Calm
Trait: Volt Absorb
Lv. 1-
Bubble | Supersonic | Surf
Lv. 50- Thunderbolt | Ice Beam | Surf | Thunder Wave
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 40 HP | 78 Defense | 140 Sp. Atk | 252 Sp. Def
OT: Near • ID: 55304

Marill or Azumarill
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Huge Power
Lv. 1-
Tackle | Aqua Jet | Ice Punch | Waterfall
Lv. 50- Return | Aqua Jet | Ice Punch | Waterfall
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 252 HP | 252 Attack | 6 Speed

OT: Near • ID: 55304


Non-Redis
Hoppip or Jumpluff
Nature: Jolly
Trait: Chlorophyll
Lv. 1- Splash | Encore | Helping Hand
Lv. 50- Sleep Powder | Encore | U-turn | Sunny Day
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 252 HP | 6 Attack | 252 Speed
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Wooper or Quagsire
Nature: Impish
Trait: Water Absorb
Lv. 1-
Recover | Earthquake | Ice Punch | Toxic
Lv. 50-
Recover | Earthquake | Ice Punch | Toxic
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 252 HP | 6 Attack | 252 Defense

OT: Near • ID: 55304


Eevee or Umbreon
Nature: Careful
Trait: Adaptability | Synchronize
Lv. 1- Tackle | Helping Hand | Yawn | Wish
Lv. 60- Mean Look | Baton Pass | Yawn | Wish
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 252 HP | 128 Sp. Def | 128 Speed
OT: Near • ID: 55304
Egg received Oct. 31, 2010
Egg hatched in Dark Cave



Girafarig
Nature: Timid
Trait: Inner Focus
Lv. 1- Astonish | Tackle | Growl | Confusion

IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Pineco or Forretress
Nature: Relaxed
Trait: Sturdy
Lv. 1- Tackle | Protect | Gyro Ball | Earthquake
Lv. 50- Spikes | Rapid Spin | Gyro Ball | Earthquake
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 29 | 31 | 0
EVs: 252 HP | 112 Attack | 144 Defense

OT: Near • ID: 55304


Non-Redis
Patrick_20052005's Snubbull
Nature: Impish
Trait: Intimidate
Lv. 1- Tackle | Scary Face | Tail Whip | Charm
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 30
OT: Jimmy • ID: 22859


Alternative's Ursaring
Nature: Jolly
Trait: Quick Feet
Lv. 50- Facade | Close Combat | Earthquake | Swords Dance
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 18 | 31 | 31
EVs: 6 HP | 252 Attack | 252 Speed
OT: Hayley • ID: 04685


Corsola UT or EV trained
Nature: Modest
Trait: Natural Cure
Lv. 1- Tackle | Aqua Ring | HP Grass | Surf
Lv. 50- Recover | Ice Beam | HP Grass | Surf
IVs: 30 | 31 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 31
EVs: 252 HP | 252 Sp. Atk | 4 Sp. Def
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Delibird
Nature: Timid
Trait: Vital Spirit
Lv. 1- Ice Beam | Signal Beam | Water Pulse | HP Electric
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 |30 | 31 | 31
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Kalsard's Skarmory
Nature: Impish
Trait: Keen Eye
Lv. 1- Brave Bird | Peck | Leer | Whirlwind
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
OT: Simon • ID: 02546


TwilightBlade's Houndoom
Nature: Hasty
Trait: Flash Fire
Lv. 61- Nasty Plot | Flamethrower | Dark Pulse | Sucker Punch
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 100 Atk | 184 SpAtk | 224 Spe

OT: Brian • ID: 12018


Stantler UT or EV trained
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Intimidate
Lv. 1- Tackle | Bite | Roar
Lv. 70- Stomp | Bite | Confuse Ray | Thunder Wave
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 252 HP | 252 Attack | 4 Speed

OT: Near • ID: 55304


TwilightBlade's Hitmontop
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Technician
Lv. 100- Fake Out | Close Combat | Bullet Punch | Mach Punch
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 31
EVs: 252 HP | 252 Attack | 4 Defense
OT: Jasmine • ID: 39218


Larvitar or Tyranitar
Nature: Naive
Trait: Guts
| Sand Stream
Lv. 1- Bite | Leer | Dragon Dance | Stone Edge

Lv. 60- Ice Beam | Flamethrower | Crunch | Superpower
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 58 Attack | 252 Sp. Atk | 200 Speed
OT: Near • ID: 55304

Hoenn:


Seedot or Shiftry
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Chlorophyll
Lv. 1- Bide |
Lv. 50- Swords Dance | Suck Punch | Seed Bomb | Brick Break
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 15 | 31 | 31
EVs: 6 HP | 252 Attack | 252 Speed
OT: Near • ID: 55304



Death_Mande's Swellow
Nature: Jolly
Trait: Guts
Lv. 1- Facade | U-turn | Pursuit | Brave Bird
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 6 HP | 252 Attack | 252 Speed
OT: Luis • ID: 54624


Swablu or Altaria
Nicknamed 'Shanaynay'
Nature: Careful
Trait: Natural Cure
Lv. 1- Peck | Growl
Lv. 50- Dragon Dance | Dragon Claw | Roost | Safeguard
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 252 HP | 16 Attack | 176 Sp. Def | 64 Speed
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Syndrome's Corphish or Crawdaunt
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Hyper Cutter
Lv. 1- Bubble | Superpower
Lv. 100- Waterfall | Ariel Ace | Swords Dance | Crunch
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 52 HP | 252 Attack | 204 Speed
OT: Black • ID: 07887


Duskull
Nature: Relaxed
Trait: Levitate
Lv. 1- Leer | Night Shade | Pain Split | Will-O-Wisp
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Tropius
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Chlorophyll
Lv. 1- Gust | Leaf Blade | Swords Dance | Earthquake
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 28 | 31 | 31
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Spheal or Walrein
Nature: Bold
Trait: Ice Body
Lv. 1- Defense Curl | Powder Snow | Growl | Water Gun
Lv. 60- Substitute | Protect | Toxic | Surf
IVs: 31 | 16 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 220 HP | 252 Defense | 38 Speed
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Clamperl
Nature: Naughty
Trait: Shell Armor
Lv. 1- Water Gun | Clamp | Ice Beam | HP Grass

IVs: 30 | 31 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 31
OT: Near • ID: 55304

Sinnoh:



Piplup or Empoleon
Nature: Modest
Trait: Torrent
Lv. 1-
Pound | Agility | Surf
Lv. 50- Grass Knot | Agility | Surf | Ice Beam
IVs: 31 | 6 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 24 HP | 252 Sp. Atk | 232 Speed
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Aipom or Ambipom
Nature: Jolly
Trait: Run Away | Technician
Lv. 1-
Tail Whip | Agility | Fake Out | Pursuit
Lv. 50- Fake Out | Low Kick | Taunt | U-turn
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 252 Attack | 6 Sp. Def | 252 Speed
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Gible or Garchomp
Nature: Jolly
Trait: Sand Veil
Lv. 1- Tackle | Sand Tomb | Sandstorm
Lv. 50- Swords Dance | Substitute | Outrage | Earthquake
EVs: 252 Attack | 6 Defense | 252 Speed
IVs: 30 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31

OT: Near • ID: 55304


Croagunk
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Dry Skin
Lv. 1- Astonish | Cross Chop | Taunt
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31

OT: Near • ID: 55304


Rhyhorn or Rhyperior
Nature: Adamant | Solid Rock
Lv. 1- Horn Attack | Tail Whip
Lv. 60- Megahorn | Stealth Rock | Earthquake | Stone Edge
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: 140 HP | 252 Attack | 34 Defense | 84 Speed
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Gligar or Gliscor
Nature: Jolly
Trait: Sand Veil
Lv. 1-
Agility | Night Slash | Swords Dance | U-turn
Lv. 50- Stealth Rock | Earthquake | Roost | U-turn
EVs: 252 HP | 6 Defense | 252 Speed
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Gligar or Gliscor
Nature: Jolly
Trait: Hyper Cutter
Lv. 1-
Agility | Night Slash | Swords Dance | U-turn
Lv. 50- Earthquake | Night Slash | Swords Dance | Roost
EVs:
40 HP | 252 Attack | 218 Speed
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
OT: Near • ID: 55304


Male
Seen August 9th, 2012
Posted January 21st, 2012
170 posts
12.7 Years
CMT for Ill be your first customer

Jolteon
Nature: Timid
Trait: Volt Absorb
IVs: 30 | 31 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 31
EVs: 252 Sp. Atk | 4 Def | 252 Speed
HP Grass | Shadow Ball | Thunderbolt | Baton Pass


Chinchou
Nature: Calm
Trait: Volt Absorb
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
Bubble | Supersonic | Surf

and welcome please reply in my thread please
SSFC: 4685 0570 4757
WFC:0690 7395 3266
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=260684
Age 20
Male
Seen May 2nd, 2011
Posted May 2nd, 2011
128 posts
13 Years
Hey, could you breed this for me? It would be much appreciated.

Pokemon:pineco
Nature:relaxed
Gender:male/female
Trait:sturdy
IVs:31/x/31/31/31/0
Egg/TM moves:tm 74 (gyro ball), tm 26 (earthquake)
Sure but can you provide a Pineco or Foretress as I don't have one at the moment. Also, would you like it shiny?


Age 20
Male
Seen May 2nd, 2011
Posted May 2nd, 2011
128 posts
13 Years
ok, can you list the pokemon you are interested in and ill provide iv and OT
More info on Tentacruel and Skarmory.

Yeah sure. Can I get you that pineco tomorrow? I gotta finish up some hw. And it'd be nice if it was shiny but you don't necessarily have to.
Okay sure, no problem.
Filler.


Male
Seen January 23rd, 2011
Posted January 23rd, 2011
66 posts
12.7 Years
sure

shiny skarmory
impish nature
ot-olivia
hp-334
attack-212
def-396
sp att-104
sp def-176
speed-180

tentacruel
calm nature
level 50

hp-187
attack-81
def-100
sp att-100
sp def-172
speed-120

ot-renato

both ev spread are taken from smogon
you can find the iv from there with a iv calculator

best of my knowledge both has perfect iv from rng abuse

kuchikie

darkness is faster than light~

Age 33
Male
malaysia
Seen July 3rd, 2011
Posted November 28th, 2010
10 posts
12.7 Years
Pokemon: chansey
Nature: bold
Gender: of course female ^^
Trait: natural cure
IVs: flawless
Egg/TM moves: - / ice beam
Shiny (yes/no): if possible shiny but normal is ok ^^

thanks in advance ^^
heartgold~ ein / 3009 3232 9263
soulSilver~ein / 4169 0086 4499
Male
New Jersey
Seen November 13th, 2019
Posted July 20th, 2014
56 posts
12.7 Years
Pokemon: Shuckle
Nature: Bold
Gender: Dont care.
Trait: Gluttony
IVs: x|x|31|x|31|x
Egg/TM moves: TM #06 - Toxic
Shiny (yes/no): Nah.

Pokemon: Cloyster
Nature: Impish
Gender: Dont care.
Trait: Skill Link
IVs: x|31|31|x|x|x|
Egg/TM moves: Nah.
Shiny (yes/no): Nah.
Pokemon Platinum FC: 2794 5559 3591
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=234278
Age 20
Male
Seen May 2nd, 2011
Posted May 2nd, 2011
128 posts
13 Years
Props for copying my Pokemon layout. :D

CMT for Stantler please.
I couldn't resist its smexiness. I could change it if you'd like.
That Paras looks nice.

sure

shiny skarmory
impish nature
ot-olivia
hp-334
attack-212
def-396
sp att-104
sp def-176
speed-180

tentacruel
calm nature
level 50

hp-187
attack-81
def-100
sp att-100
sp def-172
speed-120

ot-renato

both ev spread are taken from smogon
you can find the iv from there with a iv calculator

best of my knowledge both has perfect iv from rng abuse
Moves?

I would like to take up your Breeding Service :D

Could you breed this ..

Lavitar(shiny)
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Naute: Navie
Egg-moves: None

I know it free but you could pick a poke from my thread if ya like ^^
Awesome. I'll take a look at your thread then.

Pokemon: chansey
Nature: bold
Gender: of course female ^^
Trait: natural cure
IVs: flawless
Egg/TM moves: - / ice beam
Shiny (yes/no): if possible shiny but normal is ok ^^

thanks in advance ^^
I'm already doing 2 breeding projects, once a spot is open you can ask again.

Pokemon: Shuckle
Nature: Bold
Gender: Dont care.
Trait: Gluttony
IVs: x|x|31|x|31|x
Egg/TM moves: TM #06 - Toxic
Shiny (yes/no): Nah.

Pokemon: Cloyster
Nature: Impish
Gender: Dont care.
Trait: Skill Link
IVs: x|31|31|x|x|x|
Egg/TM moves: Nah.
Shiny (yes/no): Nah.
I'm already doing 2 breeding projects, once a spot is open you can ask again. And its one breed per person.

Cmt for your
Seel
Chinchou
Stantler
Wooper
Delibird
Interested in your UT Aron, UT Omastar, UT Kalsard's Nidoran.


Age 20
Male
Seen May 2nd, 2011
Posted May 2nd, 2011
128 posts
13 Years
Wow. That's fantastic. You must be great at rnging if you could do it that fast.

When would you be able to trade?
We can trade now if you'd like. Use the FC provided in the original post.

EDIT: Would you like this suicune for it? timid 31 HP | 23 Atk | 29 Def | 26 SpA | 27 SDef | 31 Spd
Nah, its fine. I'm heading into the Wifi Lobby.


kuchikie

darkness is faster than light~

Age 33
Male
malaysia
Seen July 3rd, 2011
Posted November 28th, 2010
10 posts
12.7 Years
Pokemon: chansey
Nature: bold
Gender: of course female ^^
Trait: natural cure
IVs: flawless
Egg/TM moves: - / ice beam
Shiny (yes/no): if possible shiny but normal is ok ^^

is any spot open?
heartgold~ ein / 3009 3232 9263
soulSilver~ein / 4169 0086 4499