Education in America Page 5

Started by Livewire September 23rd, 2010 1:22 PM
  • 6379 views
  • 124 replies
  • Poll

What do you think?

Livewire

Male
Sunnyshore City
Seen December 3rd, 2022
Posted August 2nd, 2019
14,091 posts
13.8 Years
In California, community colleges are sort of a midway between high school and the university. While they teach the same courses that freshman and sophmore university students would take, unlike the public universities, that are organized on the state level, community collegs are organized by local community college districts similar to how K-12 schools are organized.
See the majority of the Community collges in my are are branch campuses of the main schools, like Miami University in Oxford, Ohio State, Ohio U, University of Cincinnati, and all of the branches campuses follow the curriculum, rules, etc, and bylaws of their respective main campuses.

FreakyLocz14

Conservative Patriot

Male
Seen August 29th, 2018
Posted August 28th, 2018
3,497 posts
14 Years

See the majority of the Community collges in my are are branch campuses of the main schools, like Miami University in Oxford, Ohio State, Ohio U, University of Cincinnati, and all of the branches campuses follow the curriculum, rules, etc, and bylaws of their respective main campuses.
We have satellite campuses of various universities, but those aren't considered community colleges.

Livewire

Male
Sunnyshore City
Seen December 3rd, 2022
Posted August 2nd, 2019
14,091 posts
13.8 Years
We have satellite campuses of various universities, but those aren't considered community colleges.
My University has 3, one is a true satellite, but the others are considered community colleges because they operate autonomously from the main campus. They have their own unique academic system, Dean, Provost, everything.
Age 26
Male
Tennessee, USA
Seen April 14th, 2011
Posted April 14th, 2011
115 posts
12.5 Years
THURSDAY
At school Thursday, I had a substitute in Literature, and she was being incredibly inattentive to the class. How? Well, she was applying make-up, rummaging through my teacher's desk, texting, conversing with two certain students, using inappropriate language, and allowing those two students to play with her phone. Many of my fellow students felt this to be wrong, so we decided to write a formal and very well written note to the higher ups (authority figures such as the guidance counselor). Around ten people signed the note to confirm the happenings. I turned in the note to the guidance counselor that day at lunch and she assured me that it would stay confidential from everyone but the principal. It did stay that way until someone leaked it to the coach (the substitute's boyfriend).

FRIDAY
I came to school very happy with what I did as my favorite teacher is my English/Literature teacher, and the substitute was violating her personal space. Everyone was talking about it. Even the teachers in the Elementary Side. Then, after talking with the teacher about the substitute's misconduct, we left for the Computer Lab where we worked on our science class periodic table presentations. Afterward we enter P.E. class where coach was waiting. He gave everyone a 'I'll bite your heads off' look and told us to walk. During midperiod and on about my 6th lap (we were walking...) he pulled me behind the wall near the concession stand. He asked me, "What's this I hear about a note?"
"What note?" I asked, being coy.
"The one about (teacher's name)."
"Specify, please."
"You know, the one you were passing around making everyone sign?"
"Oh, that one, yes I know about it."
"Why did you write it?"
"Like I said, it needed to be addressed."
"You are gonna cost her her job!"
"Me, what do you mean?"
"Me? What do you mean?"
"Come on (my name) 'fess up, be a man!"
"Yes! I made it up."
"Why?"
"I felt it was a problem that needed to be addressed and I did so."
"No, (my name) decided (teacher's name) made (my name) mad, so (my name) took it upon himself to write a note to the principal and get (teacher's name) in trouble."
"No, I didn't!"
"Yes, you did."
"No."
"(my name), have you ever made an enemy?"
"Sir?"
"Have you ever done someone wrong so much until they get sick of it, and you make an enemy?"
"No."
"Okay, well I'm not a person you want to make enemies with."
"Yes."
"Well, I've been nice to you all year, ever since I came here. Letting you go walk up there, and you do this to me?" (a treadmill is in the second level of the gym and I walk there a lot because I am diabetic)
"Yes, sir."
"I'll tell you, if this conversation comes back on me, I'll deny it all like it never happened, and then I'll make 8th grade you hardest year yet."
"Yes, sir, nothing will be spoken of this conversation."
I go back to the class and find out (teacher's name) has been expelled from teaching in middle school ever again.

Alice

(>^.(>0.0)>

Age 31
Female
Oregon
Seen April 30th, 2015
Posted April 29th, 2015
3,077 posts
14.2 Years
Sounds like they both need to be fired to me.

You could record your next conversation with him, if it comes up again.



And you can't trust counselors at school. I spoke to one about having suicidal thoughts once, and it was supposed to stay completely confidential. She told every single teacher though.

Livewire

Male
Sunnyshore City
Seen December 3rd, 2022
Posted August 2nd, 2019
14,091 posts
13.8 Years
I have no idea what this thread's point is, so unless you can expand on the topic a bit I'm closing this. We have a thread pertaining to teachers/teaching/education already.

colcolstyles

Yours truly

Male
The Bay Area
Seen May 18th, 2019
Posted August 13th, 2012
1,588 posts
15 Years
You could record your next conversation with him, if it comes up again.
I don't think you can do that (legally) without some sort of special papers or something.

And you can't trust counselors at school. I spoke to one about having suicidal thoughts once, and it was supposed to stay completely confidential. She told every single teacher though.
My understanding is that psychologists and counselors are sworn to confidentiality unless something you say could potentially put someone (be it another person or yourself) in danger. Contemplating suicide falls under that category.

Brother of Vrai

Livewire

Male
Sunnyshore City
Seen December 3rd, 2022
Posted August 2nd, 2019
14,091 posts
13.8 Years
I refer you to the thread title.

I wanted to post this, so I did, because I wanted input on it.
Moved this here because It's in an educational setting, and it pertains to bad teaching, which was previously discussed in this thread.

It seems to me like appropriate action was taken on the school's part.

Alice

(>^.(>0.0)>

Age 31
Female
Oregon
Seen April 30th, 2015
Posted April 29th, 2015
3,077 posts
14.2 Years
You merged the poll into this thread too. lol

Also, it seemed more like it should be in the post your problems thread to me, but w/e.

My understanding is that psychologists and counselors are sworn to confidentiality unless something you say could potentially put someone (be it another person or yourself) in danger. Contemplating suicide falls under that category.
Then they shouldn't tell you it's confidential. It can cause problems, like it did with Everyone Esplode Noaw. (How exactly do I shorten that name. lol)

Livewire

Male
Sunnyshore City
Seen December 3rd, 2022
Posted August 2nd, 2019
14,091 posts
13.8 Years
The problem isnt the teachers its the kids... The kids just do not care about their education they just see it as a waste of their day. In my experience those who actually take the time to do even half the work they are given do very well.
I think you're pretty right there. Most of the time when I hear "that teacher sucks", "they don't like me" etc, it's because the student is a troublemaker or just a bad student. Are there bad teachers? Of course. But I think the ratio of bad students to bad teachers is pretty one sided.
Age 29
Male
The Great North Strong and Free
Seen October 7th, 2013
Posted April 6th, 2013
1,931 posts
15.9 Years
The intellectual conversations in this thread truly makes me excited to reply. Education reform is something that's been on my mind for a couple years now, and some opinions on my thoughts would be awesome, though I'll admit many have been brought up.

It's way too early in the morning for me to write my proper response so I'll say this until I can properly discuss this tomrrow: The way teacher's are trained this day and age plus the mentality of many (especially experienced and tenured teachers) need to change. I live in Canada where you have to take a 4 year degree before enrolling in the Education program (something I plan to do). I'm not sure in what year you get into the classroom but I know in the States it can be anywhere as late as 5th year college, and no earlier then 3rd year. The best teachers tend to be passionate teachers who are willing to commit to students, unfortunately the current education system for aspiring teachers doesn't fully support this.

Again, I'll be back tomorrow or Sunday to write more about that as well as the flawed curriculums, school funding, University tuitions and the giant and misleading allure of "prestigous" post secondary institutes.
Current Monotype Unevolved Emerald Challenge; COMPLETED 51:52
The Final Chapter
Team:


Livewire

Male
Sunnyshore City
Seen December 3rd, 2022
Posted August 2nd, 2019
14,091 posts
13.8 Years
The intellectual conversations in this thread truly makes me excited to reply. Education reform is something that's been on my mind for a couple years now, and some opinions on my thoughts would be awesome, though I'll admit many have been brought up.

It's way too early in the morning for me to write my proper response so I'll say this until I can properly discuss this tomrrow: The way teacher's are trained this day and age plus the mentality of many (especially experienced and tenured teachers) need to change. I live in Canada where you have to take a 4 year degree before enrolling in the Education program (something I plan to do). I'm not sure in what year you get into the classroom but I know in the States it can be anywhere as late as 5th year college, and no earlier then 3rd year. The best teachers tend to be passionate teachers who are willing to commit to students, unfortunately the current education system for aspiring teachers doesn't fully support this.

Again, I'll be back tomorrow or Sunday to write more about that as well as the flawed curriculums, school funding, University tuitions and the giant and misleading allure of "prestigous" post secondary institutes.
I believe in the states, an education major begins those classes around Junior year, (3rd) at least at my college we do. I am one, and I'm taling the first few classes in that department next year.

But please do, I'd love to hear it.
Age 29
Male
The Great North Strong and Free
Seen October 7th, 2013
Posted April 6th, 2013
1,931 posts
15.9 Years
About a month ago I found a book in our school library under the category of teacher's aid. Being a brand new book and all as well as meant for teachers, I asked my librarian if I could take it out, luckily I was able to. I'm dissapointed to say I don't remember the author or the title of the book but I remember much of what it talked about.

The author was a current High School principal who had taught in schools all over New England over the course of the last 30 years. He identified a couple main problems: The difficulty for good teachers to get into the profession, the lack of support for new teachers and a no poroper way of judging teachers. I am very sorry for my lack of exact statistics and I promise to find them on Monday, but around a fifth of teachers quit in their first year and in some States as many as 60% drop out in their first five years. I said earlier that the best teachers tend to be the ones most dedicated to their students and the ones who can use creative alternatives to inspire their students. Yet the in class studying mixed with closed minded and outdated tenure teachers in High Schools weed many of these individuals out before they're given the oppertunity to flourish. If one can make it through University and into a full time teaching position they're often given some of the hardest assignments. For some reasons new teachers are often expected to teach the most difficult classes (student wise) like -2 or Applied subjects. Last year we had a teacher who just graduated from Ottawa and had moved to Alberta to find a job, she studied English and Psychology in University yet they had her teaching Social. My physics teacher also had a degree in Math and Chemistry yet had to learn the current day Physics lesson from the departement leader the day before she taught it to us.

As others have mentioned, teachers can't really be fired, especially more experienced teachers, so new incoming teachers often take the fall. One of the problems as author man (who I again apologize for forgetting the name of) outlined is that there is no criteria for judging teachers. My Junior High Science teacher was 79 at the time and had no business teaching anymore. Her class was an excuse to do whatever you pleased especially since her eyesight was going. Yet there was absolutely no way to terminate her position as she had been teaching for over 50 years, except for asking her to retire that is. A lack of leadership in schools contributes alot to this. High School principals are too busy with business and disciplinary actions to properly and regularly assess the performance of their teachers. This is why the Principal position needs to be sepperated, giving one person the ability to focus on classroom environments and teacher progression. And with set criteria this person could also be in charge of teacher movement.


Moving on. :P Tuition costs need to be lowered and teacher salaries are in need of increase to keep the profession competitive. Plus many of the teachers at my school often put in 10-12 hours a day yet are only payed for 6-8 of those hours. Not much encouragemet from a financial standpoint. =/ And on tuition prices, most of the kids I talk to at my school would love to go to a University or college next year, and many of them plan to but the financial matters behind it often cause more stress then the actual academic requirements. I'm all for learning balance in life but working at school to pay off 10-40 000$ loans is raising the bar too high. The future marine in the video Live_Wire posted is a perfect example.

The following does have to do with school but isn't really related to the problems with the education system so if you want to hear me rant about the "prestigous" schools of Canada, he you go:
Spoiler:
Finally this is less of an issue and more just me wanting to rant but prestigous schools in my opinion so overrated, especially in Canada. Since 95% of post secondary schools in Canada are public the actual education quality doesn't vary too much between schools. Yet the amount of people who feel as if they have to get accepted into McGill, U of T and UBC or become "failures" is rediculous. As an underqraduate the place you get your degree from means very little. Graduate programs are what push elite schools up, that and research money. UBC gets double the grants that SFU and UVic (two other Universities in BC) get combined. So yes, UBC for research is great but High School students seem this translates into vastly superior undergraduate programs. =/ I know that was kind of off topic but it was on my chest and I wanted to get it off.


The last thing I'd like to comment on is curriculums, mainly that of the English and Social Studies ones. I don't have time to write any more but I'll say that in Alberta the English curriculum is confusing at the best of times while the Social ones is simply a diluted mess.
Current Monotype Unevolved Emerald Challenge; COMPLETED 51:52
The Final Chapter
Team:


Livewire

Male
Sunnyshore City
Seen December 3rd, 2022
Posted August 2nd, 2019
14,091 posts
13.8 Years
About a month ago I found a book in our school library under the category of teacher's aid. Being a brand new book and all as well as meant for teachers, I asked my librarian if I could take it out, luckily I was able to. I'm dissapointed to say I don't remember the author or the title of the book but I remember much of what it talked about.

The author was a current High School principal who had taught in schools all over New England over the course of the last 30 years. He identified a couple main problems: The difficulty for good teachers to get into the profession, the lack of support for new teachers and a no poroper way of judging teachers. I am very sorry for my lack of exact statistics and I promise to find them on Monday, but around a fifth of teachers quit in their first year and in some States as many as 60% drop out in their first five years. I said earlier that the best teachers tend to be the ones most dedicated to their students and the ones who can use creative alternatives to inspire their students. Yet the in class studying mixed with closed minded and outdated tenure teachers in High Schools weed many of these individuals out before they're given the oppertunity to flourish. If one can make it through University and into a full time teaching position they're often given some of the hardest assignments. For some reasons new teachers are often expected to teach the most difficult classes (student wise) like -2 or Applied subjects. Last year we had a teacher who just graduated from Ottawa and had moved to Alberta to find a job, she studied English and Psychology in University yet they had her teaching Social. My physics teacher also had a degree in Math and Chemistry yet had to learn the current day Physics lesson from the departement leader the day before she taught it to us.

As others have mentioned, teachers can't really be fired, especially more experienced teachers, so new incoming teachers often take the fall. One of the problems as author man (who I again apologize for forgetting the name of) outlined is that there is no criteria for judging teachers. My Junior High Science teacher was 79 at the time and had no business teaching anymore. Her class was an excuse to do whatever you pleased especially since her eyesight was going. Yet there was absolutely no way to terminate her position as she had been teaching for over 50 years, except for asking her to retire that is. A lack of leadership in schools contributes alot to this. High School principals are too busy with business and disciplinary actions to properly and regularly assess the performance of their teachers. This is why the Principal position needs to be sepperated, giving one person the ability to focus on classroom environments and teacher progression. And with set criteria this person could also be in charge of teacher movement.


Moving on. :P Tuition costs need to be lowered and teacher salaries are in need of increase to keep the profession competitive. Plus many of the teachers at my school often put in 10-12 hours a day yet are only payed for 6-8 of those hours. Not much encouragemet from a financial standpoint. =/ And on tuition prices, most of the kids I talk to at my school would love to go to a University or college next year, and many of them plan to but the financial matters behind it often cause more stress then the actual academic requirements. I'm all for learning balance in life but working at school to pay off 10-40 000$ loans is raising the bar too high. The future marine in the video Live_Wire posted is a perfect example.

The following does have to do with school but isn't really related to the problems with the education system so if you want to hear me rant about the "prestigous" schools of Canada, he you go:
Spoiler:
Finally this is less of an issue and more just me wanting to rant but prestigous schools in my opinion so overrated, especially in Canada. Since 95% of post secondary schools in Canada are public the actual education quality doesn't vary too much between schools. Yet the amount of people who feel as if they have to get accepted into McGill, U of T and UBC or become "failures" is rediculous. As an underqraduate the place you get your degree from means very little. Graduate programs are what push elite schools up, that and research money. UBC gets double the grants that SFU and UVic (two other Universities in BC) get combined. So yes, UBC for research is great but High School students seem this translates into vastly superior undergraduate programs. =/ I know that was kind of off topic but it was on my chest and I wanted to get it off.


The last thing I'd like to comment on is curriculums, mainly that of the English and Social Studies ones. I don't have time to write any more but I'll say that in Alberta the English curriculum is confusing at the best of times while the Social ones is simply a diluted mess.
I think you're exactly right. It's just a convoluted mess. So many things are wrong, and fixing every little problem will take some serious work and $, and a significant culture change as well.

Vrai

can you feel my heart?

Age 28
Male
Seen October 24th, 2022
Posted April 1st, 2016
2,896 posts
14.9 Years
About a month ago I found a book in our school library under the category of teacher's aid. Being a brand new book and all as well as meant for teachers, I asked my librarian if I could take it out, luckily I was able to. I'm dissapointed to say I don't remember the author or the title of the book but I remember much of what it talked about.

The author was a current High School principal who had taught in schools all over New England over the course of the last 30 years. He identified a couple main problems: The difficulty for good teachers to get into the profession, the lack of support for new teachers and a no poroper way of judging teachers. I am very sorry for my lack of exact statistics and I promise to find them on Monday, but around a fifth of teachers quit in their first year and in some States as many as 60% drop out in their first five years. I said earlier that the best teachers tend to be the ones most dedicated to their students and the ones who can use creative alternatives to inspire their students. Yet the in class studying mixed with closed minded and outdated tenure teachers in High Schools weed many of these individuals out before they're given the oppertunity to flourish. If one can make it through University and into a full time teaching position they're often given some of the hardest assignments. For some reasons new teachers are often expected to teach the most difficult classes (student wise) like -2 or Applied subjects. Last year we had a teacher who just graduated from Ottawa and had moved to Alberta to find a job, she studied English and Psychology in University yet they had her teaching Social. My physics teacher also had a degree in Math and Chemistry yet had to learn the current day Physics lesson from the departement leader the day before she taught it to us.

As others have mentioned, teachers can't really be fired, especially more experienced teachers, so new incoming teachers often take the fall. One of the problems as author man (who I again apologize for forgetting the name of) outlined is that there is no criteria for judging teachers. My Junior High Science teacher was 79 at the time and had no business teaching anymore. Her class was an excuse to do whatever you pleased especially since her eyesight was going. Yet there was absolutely no way to terminate her position as she had been teaching for over 50 years, except for asking her to retire that is. A lack of leadership in schools contributes alot to this. High School principals are too busy with business and disciplinary actions to properly and regularly assess the performance of their teachers. This is why the Principal position needs to be sepperated, giving one person the ability to focus on classroom environments and teacher progression. And with set criteria this person could also be in charge of teacher movement.


Moving on. :P Tuition costs need to be lowered and teacher salaries are in need of increase to keep the profession competitive. Plus many of the teachers at my school often put in 10-12 hours a day yet are only payed for 6-8 of those hours. Not much encouragemet from a financial standpoint. =/ And on tuition prices, most of the kids I talk to at my school would love to go to a University or college next year, and many of them plan to but the financial matters behind it often cause more stress then the actual academic requirements. I'm all for learning balance in life but working at school to pay off 10-40 000$ loans is raising the bar too high. The future marine in the video Live_Wire posted is a perfect example.

The following does have to do with school but isn't really related to the problems with the education system so if you want to hear me rant about the "prestigous" schools of Canada, he you go:
Spoiler:
Finally this is less of an issue and more just me wanting to rant but prestigous schools in my opinion so overrated, especially in Canada. Since 95% of post secondary schools in Canada are public the actual education quality doesn't vary too much between schools. Yet the amount of people who feel as if they have to get accepted into McGill, U of T and UBC or become "failures" is rediculous. As an underqraduate the place you get your degree from means very little. Graduate programs are what push elite schools up, that and research money. UBC gets double the grants that SFU and UVic (two other Universities in BC) get combined. So yes, UBC for research is great but High School students seem this translates into vastly superior undergraduate programs. =/ I know that was kind of off topic but it was on my chest and I wanted to get it off.


The last thing I'd like to comment on is curriculums, mainly that of the English and Social Studies ones. I don't have time to write any more but I'll say that in Alberta the English curriculum is confusing at the best of times while the Social ones is simply a diluted mess.
I'm not from Canada, but I'm actually taking a class on education itself because it's something that I'm interested in. You've highlighted a lot of the things that we've talked about in that class. :)

I think one of the big problems with education is that, a lot of the time, it's just been a "fallback" for people. Can't get a job doing what you want to do, like becoming a scientist? Teach science! You played college football and you can't get into pro? Teach something and then just go for the head coaching job! I mean, it's a lack of people that enjoy the art of teaching for what it is, and just take it to be a paying job. It's a hell of a lot harder than it looks.

And yeah. Teacher tenure (is that the proper term? iunno) is one of the most hotly contested topics as far as education goes. Once a teacher has been around for over five years or so, after the point that principals and etc come in to watch their class and see how well they do, they pretty much cannot get fired. And there's really no way to determine or compare, really, how well a teacher has taught, so you can't use test scores as a basis of how well the teacher does his or her job. It's a difficult topic, yeah.

Morgnarok

PokéCommunity Supporter - Platinum Tier

Age 28
Male
PokeVerse
Seen November 26th, 2022
Posted November 26th, 2022
2,218 posts
12.9 Years
Education is going down the drain every year.More and more kids don't care and just skip or drop out of school or they go to school but go only to hang with friends and don't do the work.
Age 29
Male
The Great North Strong and Free
Seen October 7th, 2013
Posted April 6th, 2013
1,931 posts
15.9 Years
I'm not from Canada, but I'm actually taking a class on education itself because it's something that I'm interested in. You've highlighted a lot of the things that we've talked about in that class. :)

I think one of the big problems with education is that, a lot of the time, it's just been a "fallback" for people. Can't get a job doing what you want to do, like becoming a scientist? Teach science! You played college football and you can't get into pro? Teach something and then just go for the head coaching job! I mean, it's a lack of people that enjoy the art of teaching for what it is, and just take it to be a paying job. It's a hell of a lot harder than it looks.

And yeah. Teacher tenure (is that the proper term? iunno) is one of the most hotly contested topics as far as education goes. Once a teacher has been around for over five years or so, after the point that principals and etc come in to watch their class and see how well they do, they pretty much cannot get fired. And there's really no way to determine or compare, really, how well a teacher has taught, so you can't use test scores as a basis of how well the teacher does his or her job. It's a difficult topic, yeah.
"If you can't do, teach." Hate that quote. Yeah I think with the last of the Baby Boomers entering retirement age we're in a critical time. There might not be a better time for a culture change for a long time. I plan to be a teacher one day and being alienated by my colleagues for having "revolutionary" new ideas would be completely disheartening. But as the older generation moves out school staff should start to become relatively younger. I guess what I'm trying to say is the time is now, and with the system like it is now, no one should have an idea ignored especially if these ideas are in the minds of people who are in charge of educating future citizens.

I know in my home town the board needs to be turned over and then curriculums from Alberta Learning need to completely revisited. Well for English and Social.

Oh and thanks. :) Glad to know I'm on the right track. :P
Current Monotype Unevolved Emerald Challenge; COMPLETED 51:52
The Final Chapter
Team:


Age 28
Male
Oregon
Seen September 24th, 2018
Posted July 3rd, 2018
17,520 posts
13.1 Years
The problem isnt the teachers its the kids... The kids just do not care about their education they just see it as a waste of their day. In my experience those who actually take the time to do even half the work they are given do very well.
I agree, I have seen good teachers but rowdy and disrupting students that it makes me feel sad for my teachers sometimes...
like the saying goes "Don't blame the tool blame the worker" or in this case "Don't blame the Teacher blame the student".
I wonder if the parents are to blame for the rowdiness or if they are just naturally like that...
I'm currently working on some novels. If you're interested you can read them here:
https://www.wattpad.com/user/ImperialSun

Vrai

can you feel my heart?

Age 28
Male
Seen October 24th, 2022
Posted April 1st, 2016
2,896 posts
14.9 Years

I agree, I have seen good teachers but rowdy and disrupting students that it makes me feel sad for my teachers sometimes...
like the saying goes "Don't blame the tool blame the worker" or in this case "Don't blame the Teacher blame the student".
I wonder if the parents are to blame for the rowdiness or if they are just naturally like that...
I don't think so. That might be the case... half the time. Even if there are rowdy and disruptive students, good teachers should be able to deal with problems. It's the bad teachers usually that can't. Keep in mind, guys, that a good teacher does not always equal a nice teacher. You have to be able to hand out discipline when it's necessary to do your job right.
Age 28
Male
Oregon
Seen September 24th, 2018
Posted July 3rd, 2018
17,520 posts
13.1 Years
I don't think so. That might be the case... half the time. Even if there are rowdy and disruptive students, good teachers should be able to deal with problems. It's the bad teachers usually that can't. Keep in mind, guys, that a good teacher does not always equal a nice teacher. You have to be able to hand out discipline when it's necessary to do your job right.
True and I agree but some students are just too much to handle...I've seen teachers try almost all methods to quite down students and they don't work...not even the strict ones...
I'm currently working on some novels. If you're interested you can read them here:
https://www.wattpad.com/user/ImperialSun

WriteThemWrong

LetMeHearYourPokemon's___ Voice

Age 31
Male
Tucson
Seen September 22nd, 2011
Posted June 19th, 2011
1,130 posts
14.3 Years

True and I agree but some students are just too much to handle...I've seen teachers try almost all methods to quite down students and they don't work...not even the strict ones...
idk about that, usually the strict teachers are able to keep a quiet and productive environment. if kids are continuously causing disturbance they call their parents, send the kids to the principals, and whatever else. the teachers that can't keep a quiet and productive environment get nothing done.
They confiscated my monkeys.
Dammit sky!
It's hard talking to cactus.

I think my head is dying
It's like being trapped in a room of smells
Age 28
Male
Oregon
Seen September 24th, 2018
Posted July 3rd, 2018
17,520 posts
13.1 Years
idk about that, usually the strict teachers are able to keep a quiet and productive environment. if kids are continuously causing disturbance they call their parents, send the kids to the principals, and whatever else. the teachers that can't keep a quiet and productive environment get nothing done.
Some kids never seem to learn their lesson or just don't care...
I think we should adopt a system like Germany's where those who don't want to go to school go into internships instead of going to High school (they are much more productive that way too)
I'm currently working on some novels. If you're interested you can read them here:
https://www.wattpad.com/user/ImperialSun

Livewire

Male
Sunnyshore City
Seen December 3rd, 2022
Posted August 2nd, 2019
14,091 posts
13.8 Years

Some kids never seem to learn their lesson or just don't care...
I think we should adopt a system like Germany's where those who don't want to go to school go into internships instead of going to High school (they are much more productive that way too)
Well remember that Internships aren't free either, funding for them is going to have to come from somewhere. And seeing as we don't like paying our taxes anymore, I can't imagine seeing a program like this implemented, if it's going to cost a considerable sum of money to enact. :/