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I think there are very high chances of there being life somewhere else in the Universe, as it is so large and with so many stars out there, I think there is a huge chance of there being planets orbiting them in that sort of "sweet spot" where the temperatures are just right for life to form and live.

And about aliens/extraterrestrials coming near our Solar System, I really doubt it, except for asteroids with foreign bacteria and such, though I don't think scientists have ever found evidence of those. And I know that's not really what you meant, but I think that's the closest we will ever see to "aliens".

And here's something I posted in a another thread, that I don't feel like typing up again:
Yes, I think so. And I have a feeling that they could be drastically different from us, so different that they would even have a different set of molecules that make up their "DNA". Not the usual A,C,T,G molecules that we are so familiar with, but something unique that works perfect with their environment. And because they would be made of different molecules with different properties, I'm guessing they would not be at all like the life we are familiar with.

Of course, they would still have to behave like life anywhere, absorbing something to use as energy and growth, and releasing excess materials left over from reactions that break down compounds.

Of course, this is all basically Sci-Fi stuff straight from my head, but I don't see why it couldn't work. :P
I think that because I doubt there is just one specific set of conditions that would cause life to form in the early stages of a planet, I think there could be many conditions that depend on how much of certain elements are available. And maybe if there were different amounts of elements available than the ones on planet Earth in an early stage, then maybe the planet could be in a different position then that "sweet spot" I mentioned earlier, as higher or lower temperatures might be just right for that set.

I mean, we think of life as made of Carbon and having DNA, along with the most abundant elements, but I doubt that's the only set of atoms and molecules life could be made of.
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Here's another interesting picture.


Pre-Etruscan paintings in Italy. Notice the see-through, bubble shaped helmets.
Or they're just halos, a common and not exclusively Abrahamic symbol used to designate important persons in artpieces. Why they're hollow is simply because there's only one colour used in that painting — drawing an opaque halo would obscure their heads entirely. You might notice the rays eminating from the rings, something often done with halos. Who the persons in the painting are, I don't suppose it can be said, but it looks to me like two warriors, probably heroes in their day.

That's what I think of it, at least.

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Or they're just halos, a common and not exclusively Abrahamic symbol used to designate important persons in artpieces. Why they're hollow is simply because there's only one colour used in that painting — drawing an opaque halo would obscure their heads entirely. You might notice the rays eminating from the rings, something often done with halos. Who the persons in the painting are, I don't suppose it can be said, but it looks to me like two warriors, probably heroes in their day.

That's what I think, anyway.
That, or they also kind of look like those ceremonial headwear things (lol, for lack of better words, basically those things you see Indians wearing in old movies). Or, maybe instead of halos, it was suppose to represent their consciousness, as even people way back then would be able to figure out that there mind exists up there where their skull is?

And about those triangle formations on the first page...... seriously? There are triangles everywhere in nature, if you want to go around connecting 3 points in search of signs of alien life, be my guest, but it's a common occurrence. *facepalm*
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That, or they also kind of look like those ceremonial headwear things (lol, for lack of better words, basically those things you see Indians wearing in old movies). Or, maybe instead of halos, it was suppose to represent their consciousness, as even people way back then would be able to figure out that there mind exists up there where their skull is?

And about those triangle formations on the first page...... seriously? There are triangles everywhere in nature, if you want to go around connecting 3 points in search of signs of alien life, be my guest, but it's a common occurrence. *facepalm*
But not that precise. That angles and the alignment of those forms is accurate to a single degree, Which nature simply doesn't make. Those three pyramids/triangles, match up perfectly with the three stars in the belt of the constellation Orion.


Or they're just halos, a common and not exclusively Abrahamic symbol used to designate important persons in artpieces. Why they're hollow is simply because there's only one colour used in that painting — drawing an opaque halo would obscure their heads entirely. You might notice the rays eminating from the rings, something often done with halos. Who the persons in the painting are, I don't suppose it can be said, but it looks to me like two warriors, probably heroes in their day.

That's what I think of it, at least.
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Or they're just halos, a common and not exclusively Abrahamic symbol used to designate important persons in artpieces. Why they're hollow is simply because there's only one colour used in that painting — drawing an opaque halo would obscure their heads entirely. You might notice the rays eminating from the rings, something often done with halos. Who the persons in the painting are, I don't suppose it can be said, but it looks to me like two warriors, probably heroes in their day.

That's what I think of it, at least.
They look like halos, which the concept behind halos did not even exist during the time those were created.

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They look like halos, which the concept behind halos did not even exist during the time those were created.
Pre-Etruskan paintings would predate the Romans by a few centuries, so we'd be talking about before 770 B.C.E, so you're right. They pre-date christianity by several centuries.

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But not that precise. That angles and the alignment of those forms is accurate to a single degree, Which nature simply doesn't make. Those three pyramids/triangles, match up perfectly with the three stars in the belt of the constellation Orion.
If nature decides to flip 100 coins at once over and over again, eventually it will get 100 heads or tails. When there are so many possibilities that are repeated all the time, eventually the same results will come up. And it's been known that patterns often repeat themselves in nature, so it's really not so amazing...... Especially when there are only so many possible sets of degrees in the angles of a triangle.....
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If nature decides to flip 100 coins at once over and over again, eventually it will get 100 heads or tails. When there are so many possibilities that are repeated all the time, eventually the same results will come up. And it's been known that patterns often repeat themselves in nature, so it's really not so amazing...... Especially when there are only so many possible sets of degrees in the angles of a triangle.....
What he means is that perfect angles do not occur in nature, at all. Exactly measured, 45, 90, 120, etc, degree angles are only possible through being made by human hands. Nature doesn't work on that precise of a level, at least not in rock formations.

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What he means is that perfect angles do not occur in nature, at all. Exactly measured, 45, 90, 120, etc, degree angles are only possible through being made by human hands. Nature doesn't work on that precise of a level, at least not in rock formations.
*facepalm*

Yes it does, as the rocks are just three points, it's humans that choose which three rocks and make lines to make them a triangle, otherwise it's just 3 rocks. >_<

With all the rocks there are in some rocky area, you could make all sorts of triangles with them, including ones with a square angle. >_<

Seriously just freakin rocks...... >_<
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interesting news story:



simultaneously creepy and awesome o _ o i want to believe! what do you guys think of this...alien spacecraft? government conspiracy? spiritual orbs ?
Wow, pretty damned creepy. I thought it was just a meteor or some other NEO until the separated "parts" just stopped and hovered in the air for a while. And I have to say that I agree with the newsreader when he said those looked eerily similar to the ones in Manhattan.
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I believe that aliens exsist. On a different planet/galaxy that is. I don't think that humans and animals are the only living lifeforms around. There must be more. But no one can be sure. When someone claims to have seen an alien, some people are sure it's fake, while on the other hand, some people actualy believe it. I supose we may or may not find out, depending on if someone actualy meets and alien and comes back alive. o/



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I met an alien once, his name was pedro...... :o

But yeah, with how many stars there are in just one galaxy, and how many planets orbit one star, I'm sure the chances of life on another planet in just our galaxy must be fairly high.
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*facepalm*

Yes it does, as the rocks are just three points, it's humans that choose which three rocks and make lines to make them a triangle, otherwise it's just 3 rocks. >_<

With all the rocks there are in some rocky area, you could make all sorts of triangles with them, including ones with a square angle. >_<

Seriously just freakin rocks...... >_<
That's what I'm trying to say, is that nature doesn't produce such detailed, geometrically accurate formations like that. Humans make those detailed formations. D: That's why you never see perfectly straight tree branches. You won't find Rocks, oranges, seeds, etc, that are perfect spheres, etc. Perfect geometric shapes are signs of being man-made.


interesting news story:



simultaneously creepy and awesome o _ o i want to believe! what do you guys think of this...alien spacecraft? government conspiracy? spiritual orbs ?
Woah. 0___0 Things like this are what make people believe.

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That's what I'm trying to say, is that nature doesn't produce such detailed, geometrically accurate formations like that. Humans make those detailed formations. D: That's why you never see perfectly straight tree branches. You won't find Rocks, oranges, seeds, etc, that are perfect spheres, etc. Perfect geometric shapes are signs of being man-made.
The thing is, humans made those measurements based off of observation, so it's only perfect in our eyes because we made the definition of "perfect".

And I really don't get what you mean by "detailed, geometrically accurate formations", all I saw were some triangles formed from 3 points? :S
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The thing is, humans made those measurements based off of observation, so it's only perfect in our eyes because we made the definition of "perfect".

And I really don't get what you mean by "detailed, geometrically accurate formations", all I saw were some triangles formed from 3 points? :S
What I mean by detailed, geometrically accurate formations, would be like this:

Snapshots of the Yonaguni monument

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Notice how the rock makes two perfect 90 degree angles on both sides. That is not a natural rock formation, it was made by a human hand. Nature can not replicate that.



Now what made these, well we don't know. But this spot was carbon dated to around 7,000 years ago, before the Great Pyramids at Giza were built. Some suggest alien involvement, but there is no evidence to support that. But, absence of evidence doesn't mean they weren't there, to loosly quote Pixy.
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I find this thread really interesting! I didn't even think about the pyramids etc until now!
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I believe there could be something out there but as of yet I do not believe we have actually found any alien artifacts, evidence, or actual sightings that are not just a hoax.
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What I mean by detailed, geometrically accurate formations, would be like this:

Snapshots of the Yonaguni monument

Spoiler:


Notice how the rock makes two perfect 90 degree angles on both sides. That is not a natural rock formation, it was made by a human hand. Nature can not replicate that.



Now what made these, well we don't know. But this spot was carbon dated to around 7,000 years ago, before the Great Pyramids at Giza were built. Some suggest alien involvement, but there is no evidence to support that. But, absence of evidence doesn't mean they weren't there, to loosly quote Pixy.
That's one thing and it's impressive, but I was talking about these:



And where are those underwater things at, and how deep underwater is it?
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That's one thing and it's impressive, but I was talking about these:

And where are those underwater things at, and how deep underwater is it?
As far as I know, those monuments at Stone henge, Tikal, Dendera, etc, all were built to align with the stars that make up some Constellation, which one, I'm not sure. Now, why they align that way, its not certain. But it's all over the place.

as for the monument:

"The main feature (the "Monument" proper) is a rectangular formation measuring about 150 by 40 m (490 by 130 ft), and about 27 m (90 ft) tall; the top is about 5 m (16 ft) below sea level"
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That's one thing and it's impressive, but I was talking about these:

And where are those underwater things at, and how deep underwater is it?
My point here wasn't that. It was explaining why all of those monuments/landforms all seemed to match up with eachother. Not that they're just random triangles.

Whether or not its true, I find it weird that these things all match up. And that's considering A builder of One of those landforms had no idea that the other ones existed.
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Just 16 ft below sea level? Then I think it's highly possible that the tides in that area might have been vastly different around the time it was built. But who knows.....

And back onto my favorite alien-related subject, what organisms on other planets with different environments might be like.

I was talking with my friend a couple hours ago about this, and think about how jellyfish are made almost completely of water, right? Well it seems obvious that those kinds of organisms form from there being so much water on our planet, and our planet being in the right place to allow water to support life.

Well maybe on another planet, the air is really dense and filled with gas, so maybe some kind of organism would form that is much like a jellyfish, except it's made almost completely of gas, and floats? Or, instead of forming directly in those kinds of conditions, maybe organisms formed in conditions like on planet Earth, and since life adapts to prevent it from dying out, maybe those kind of things could have formed over time as the conditions on the planet changed?

Makes sense to me....... XD

My point here wasn't that. It was explaining why all of those monuments/landforms all seemed to match up with eachother. Not that they're just random triangles.

Whether or not its true, I find it weird that these things all match up. And that's considering A builder of One of those landforms had no idea that the other ones existed.
But if they were all looking at the same constellations, and they were all interested in geometry and astronomy, then it's not that strange. :S
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Just 16 ft below sea level? Then I think it's highly possible that the tides in that area might have been vastly different around the time it was built. But who knows.....

And back onto my favorite alien-related subject, what organisms on other planets with different environments might be like.

I was talking with my friend a couple hours ago about this, and think about how jellyfish are made almost completely of water, right? Well it seems obvious that those kinds of organisms form from there being so much water on our planet, and our planet being in the right place to allow water to support life.

Well maybe on another planet, the air is really dense and filled with gas, so maybe some kind of organism would form that is much like a jellyfish, except it's made almost completely of gas, and floats? Or, instead of forming directly in those kinds of conditions, maybe organisms formed in conditions like on planet Earth, and since life adapts to prevent it from dying out, maybe those kind of things could have formed over time as the conditions on the planet changed?

Makes sense to me....... XD
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Watch: Expedition to Darwin VI (I think it is 6), its good and gives ideas of what other creatures could look like.
Other than that: "Spore" by those very guys that brought you "The Sims", Is a video game where you get your own planet, create your own aliens.
I might check that out, but on the Spore thing...... It's not the same, I want to make real ones! >_<
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