Ubuntu(Windows is making me mad)

Started by rm2kdude October 17th, 2010 1:24 AM
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rm2kdude

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Okay, I've just had it up to "here" with Microsoft windows! I do like Windows 7 and I believe it's a stable Operating System, but.. I had a power surge today and when I logged into windows it said I had to register well easy enough right? No. The Legit serial number that came with Windows 7 Ultimate said it was invalid(yet Microsoft Support said it was Valid over the phone) yet always comes up as invalid.

So, I'm looking into just switching over to Ubuntu.
I also know "thankfully" I can run windows applications which is great as I have allot of them that I need to run. Visual C#, Express Game Maker, Game Maker 8 Pro, Code Blocks:: C++. Photoshop CS5(I believe there's a Linux version which I can just transfer over..hopefully)

If anyone uses Ubuntu or any forum of Linux post here as I could use tips on running windows applications, I also haven't installed Ubuntu or any form of Linux yet as there's allot to choose from. I'm choosing Ubuntu mainly becomes it resembles Mac OS X in many ways and there's also a perfect transfer of the Mac OS X interface(and also Windows 7)

So what's your thoughts, experiences with Linux?
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Not all Windows programs will run under Linux, and to be honest, you will have a hard time switching over to ubuntu or any other linux distro. So you should just make a partition for ubuntu before switching over to it.

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Not all Windows programs will run under Linux, and to be honest, you will have a hard time switching over to ubuntu or any other linux distro. So you should just make a partition for ubuntu before switching over to it.
Alternatively, Virtual Machines (I recommend Virtualbox) are much easier to clean up once you decide that the best way to run Windows programs is through Windows. I like Ubuntu and it has its uses, but they're not what you're looking for.

I think we should talk through the Windows situation, instead. You bought a retail copy of Windows 7 Ultimate?

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I recommend using Virtualbox to virtualize Ubuntu before you make the switch. You need to experience firsthand that WINE is not a very good means of running Windows programs, at least when it comes to the freeware version of WINE. Call up Microsoft and try to get on with a real person to explain that your Windows 7 copy refuses to re-activate with your product key (unless that's not the problem you're having).
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The only thing I can think of is that you had a power surge and something got screwed up hardware-wise. Reinstall Windows and use over-the-phone activation. Next time get a surge protector and possibly a UPS, your computer won't do any better if it's running Linux and you get a power surge.

I recommend that you stay with Windows, personally.
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rm2kdude

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Not all Windows programs will run under Linux, and to be honest, you will have a hard time switching over to ubuntu or any other linux distro. So you should just make a partition for ubuntu before switching over to it.
I'm on a workstation, supports(currently as there are no larger hard drives than 2TB atm) 8TB. 4 HDD trays.

I've done allot of research and stuff like visual C#/XNA works which is one of the things I needed.


The only thing I can think of is that you had a power surge and something got screwed up hardware-wise. Reinstall Windows and use over-the-phone activation. Next time get a surge protector and possibly a UPS, your computer won't do any better if it's running Linux and you get a power surge.

I recommend that you stay with Windows, personally.
I rather run Mac OS X over windows, but I'm not going to drop $5000 for a Mac PRO. That's why I chose the HP Z800 and I can use any parts I wish.
I am accustomed to the Mac OS X GUI but I'll probably wait until 10/20/10 when Mac OS X Lion is announced and we have a look at the new GUI.
Mother of god... it's almost been 12 years since I joined this community!!
Damn, time sure does fly ^O^

Archer

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I'm on a workstation, supports(currently as there are no larger hard drives than 2TB atm) 8TB. 4 HDD trays.

I've done allot of research and stuff like visual C#/XNA works which is one of the things I needed.



I rather run Mac OS X over windows, but I'm not going to drop $5000 for a Mac PRO. That's why I chose the HP Z800 and I can use any parts I wish.
I am accustomed to the Mac OS X GUI but I'll probably wait until 10/20/10 when Mac OS X Lion is announced and we have a look at the new GUI.
Using Windows programs is not going to be easy on OSX, either. Lion isn't going to be released for a long time and you need to address the problem, rather than just dodging it.

rm2kdude

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For any programs I wasn't able to install over wine I either boot into my Windows Partition or just use Virtual box(depending on how intensive the program is) in Ubuntu 10.10

For Mac OS X, you would use VMWare Fusion 3. I've used it and it's a great way to run Windows apps. Though for programs like EGM/GM/RM etc. I'd just install windows xp unless you're doing anything serious like gaming for instance. Than just boot into your main windows partition.
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Archer

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For any programs I wasn't able to install over wine I either boot into my Windows Partition or just use Virtual box(depending on how intensive the program is) in Ubuntu 10.10

For Mac OS X, you would use VMWare Fusion 3. I've used it and it's a great way to run Windows apps. Though for programs like EGM/GM/RM etc. I'd just install windows xp unless you're doing anything serious like gaming for instance. Than just boot into your main windows partition.
Yeah, sure that would work, except that you still have to deal with licenses for the VMs. Why are you dodging the problem of fixing Windows?

rm2kdude

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Why should I both with windows at all? I've called several times to customer support about my S/N. Want to know what there answe was? Just buy a new windows ultimate disk.

Seriously, why should I buy what I already purchased? That makes no sense does it?!

This is why people absolutely HATE Microsoft!
Mother of god... it's almost been 12 years since I joined this community!!
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Archer

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Why should I both with windows at all? I've called several times to customer support about my S/N. Want to know what there answe was? Just buy a new windows ultimate disk.
I sincerely doubt that. Did you buy a retail copy?

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Have you gotten on with a rep?

And why do you need to register? Can't you just re-activate it? If they need your product ID, it's listed in the main tab of the Properties dialog box for Computer. They're probably actually looking for your Product ID, not your activation key, now that I think about it.

The lesson you SHOULD BE LEARNING, however is this: ALWAYS PLUG A COMPUTER INTO A SURGE SUPPRESSOR.
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rm2kdude

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Have you gotten on with a rep?

And why do you need to register? Can't you just re-activate it? If they need your product ID, it's listed in the main tab of the Properties dialog box for Computer. They're probably actually looking for your Product ID, not your activation key, now that I think about it.

The lesson you SHOULD BE LEARNING, however is this: ALWAYS PLUG A COMPUTER INTO A SURGE SUPPRESSOR.
Funny thing is, it is plugged in a surge protector(I have about 5 in use right now) But almost every power surge happens just downstairs.
And I've given both the activation key and Product ID.
Mother of god... it's almost been 12 years since I joined this community!!
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Archer

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... or alternatively demand to speak with their supervisor when you call again. Supervisors are far more flexible when it comes to customer support.
Exactly, you've purchased one of their more expensive products. The people on the end of the phones are usually script puppets, so you need someone who can actually follow the problem through.

It sounds like more of a Windows program, because there's no reason a surge should make you need to re-activate.

rm2kdude

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I got it to work last night thanks to a supervisor, I pretty much just jumped on the guy and said. Don't talk just connect me to a supervisor.

I got a new activation key and everything, also just got a new "ultimate box" coming in the mail now.

I'm really liking Ubuntu allot, just trying to get RMXP/VX to work in Linux. I've gotten them before but that was when Ubuntu was only in version 8.

For any OS I feel Linux has the most customization out there, you can make it look exactly like Windows 7 if you want, or OSX perfectly. I love the 3D cube but probably wouldn't use it that much.

I'm kinda in a debate about using Docky or Cairo Dock. AWN is a good Dock but not the dock I'm used to.
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Archer

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I'm kinda in a debate about using Docky or Cairo Dock. AWN is a good Dock but not the dock I'm used to.
AWN>Cairo>Docky

I prefer the customisablility of Cairo, but AWN is just so simple and robust. It just works, all of the time. Unless Docky has gotten a lot better, it's too simplistic and featureless. I know AWN isn't like other docks, but just use it for a few days and treat it as a new program.
Just remember that you have to use Terminal to do any administration stuff with Ubuntu while logged into the GUI.
Rubbish. There's basically nothing that you can't do from the GUI. You can even adjust the boot mounts via GUI apps now.

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Rubbish. There's basically nothing that you can't do from the GUI. You can even adjust the boot mounts via GUI apps now.
Well, I'm talking out of the box. And, for all the things you can do in the GUI, Ubuntu does not have a GUI IP config utility.

Of course, this could just be based off of the fact that all I've done with Ubuntu 10 is enter stuff in the Terminal as root.
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Archer

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Well, I'm talking out of the box. And, for all the things you can do in the GUI, Ubuntu does not have a GUI IP config utility.

Of course, this could just be based off of the fact that all I've done with Ubuntu 10 is enter stuff in the Terminal as root.
Don't most people use ipconfig under cmd in Windows, anyway?

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Don't most people use ipconfig under cmd in Windows, anyway?
I only use ipconfig to see what my MAC is for a particular interface or if my computer's picked up a proper IP for the network. I configure my IP through the GUI because it's all there in one place, and I can more easily go back and fix an address/mask if I realize I mistyped it while I'm working on adding in my mask/gateway/DNS.

I don't know anyone who actually bothers with the CLI commands if there's a GUI interface, unless the GUI interface is terrible or slower than the CLI interface.
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I only use ipconfig to see what my MAC is for a particular interface or if my computer's picked up a proper IP for the network. I configure my IP through the GUI because it's all there in one place, and I can more easily go back and fix an address/mask if I realize I mistyped it while I'm working on adding in my mask/gateway/DNS.

I don't know anyone who actually bothers with the CLI commands if there's a GUI interface, unless the GUI interface is terrible or slower than the CLI interface.
*raises hand* I like to use the CLI whenever possible and whenever I know what I'm doing in it; it's just cool.

Also, if you want to run OS X, just get a copy of OS X from an Apple Store and make a Hackintosh out of your workstation. Use one of the 4 HDs as the OS X boot drive and keep the others as something else. You'd just need to figure out what you need for the job and you'd have to worry about updates, but that's not too much of a problem.

Archer

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I only use ipconfig to see what my MAC is for a particular interface or if my computer's picked up a proper IP for the network. I configure my IP through the GUI because it's all there in one place, and I can more easily go back and fix an address/mask if I realize I mistyped it while I'm working on adding in my mask/gateway/DNS.
You can do most, if not all of that from the network settings:


I DLed the ISO and made a VM just to point this out, so appreciate it, lol.