Most overrated Pokemon? Page 3

Started by SandslashFTW October 27th, 2010 6:11 PM
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It doesn't annoy me that much, but.... Darkrai. Why do people love it so much? Or more like, why did people love it so much, as they used to when everyone was playing D/P/Pt. And also because I want one XD
I was thinking this. But then again, I've also never had a Darkrai, so I don't know what all the hype was about. :3

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I'm also not a big fan of Lucario, but again, it's far from overrated because his overuse is backed up by amazing stats and an unpredictable movepool. Actually, I think his usage has been decreasing a little since Infernape became popular. XD

Perhaps it's just me, but:

HP: 70
Atk: 110
Def: 70
Sp. Atk: 115
Sp. Def: 70
Spd: 90

At a glance, Lucario's stats actually don't do it too much justice. A spread of 70s in the defensive department means that Lucario is almost always 3HKOed by any neutral attack coming from anything that's even somewhat offensively oriented, and most of the harder hitters can 2HKO it with little trouble (assuming that the attacks are not resisted). Lucaro's speed isn't anything to write home with either, and many Pok
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mon (such as Starmie, the base 600 Pixies, Salamence), outspeed it quite easily. The only thing special about these stats are Luke's well balanced Attacking stats, which allow it to use a wide variety of offensive moves is its arsenal.
Which is why Lucario is so great. With Access to Extreme Speed, Mach Punch, and Vacume wave, Lucario can easily out-speed would be foes and KO them using it's wide array of moves in ways that similar base 90s (Such as Porygon-Z, Roserade, and Moltres) cannot. Lucario's other attacking moves allow it to strike the things it CAN out- speed quite hard. Indeed, Nothing ruins Tyranitar/Rhyperior's day more then having Luke come into its Stone Edge and then beat the snot out of it with Close Combat.
Lucario's typing also somewhat balances out its poor defenses, allowing it to take moves of popular types such as dragon, ice, and rock easily, though the weakness to ground and Fighting leaves something to be desired.

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Of course, with that said, I'm not a fan of the "steel" jackal either, though I do not particualrly dislike it much beyond priority smashing Porygon-Z. Over all Pok
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mon I lothe and despise however, little comes to my mind more then...



Yep, Pikachu. Though I can't say that I actually hate it, Pikachu has been forced down every part of the franchise, to the point where you can't help getting somewhat sick of being greeted by it everywhere you go. And nope, I'm not talking about the show either, you'll find this rat teeming in just about anything with the word "Pok
é
mon" pasted on it, to the point where other former icons (Jigglypuff and Polywhirl) are overshadowed, and only the rat along with the latest and oldest starters are really notable. There's also some bad blood going on between Porygon being used as a scapegoat in order to keep this thing's slate clean, but that's another topic all together.

As for Pikachu in-game, no mater what 250 Base Power electric Priority attack Game Freak throws in, Pikachu will never be as effective as it was in the GSC era (which is probably the only time that it was ever really effective at all.) Terrible defenses that are even worse then Deoxys's Attack Form, backed by offensive power that you can easily get on a far bulkier or faster Pok
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mon who has access to held items make it far from worth it in most cases. Pikachu also suffers from the crippling 90 base speed, but unlike Luke, it doesn't have anything better then Quick Attack to make up for this. Perhaps some day, Pikachu will get a broken ability (Hey, it happened to Wobuffet and Ditto) in order to make it a force to be reckoned with, but until then, this rodent is just another NFE poke that lost its spark a long time ago.

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Yep, Pikachu. Though I can't say that I actually hate it, Pikachu has been forced down every part of the franchise, to the point where you can't help getting somewhat sick of being greeted by it everywhere you go. And nope, I'm not talking about the show either, you'll find this rat teeming in just about anything with the word "Pok
é[/FONT]mon" pasted on it, to the point where other former icons (Jigglypuff and Polywhirl) are overshadowed, and only the rat along with the latest and oldest starters are really notable. There's also some bad blood going on between Porygon being used as a scapegoat in order to keep this thing's slate clean, but that's another topic all together.

As for Pikachu in-game, no mater what 250 Base Power electric Priority attack Game Freak throws in, Pikachu will never be an effective as it was in the GSC era (which is probably the only time that it was ever really effective at all.) Terrible defenses that are even worse then Deoxys's Attack Form, backed by offensive power that you can easily get on a far bulkier or faster Pok
é
mon who has access to held items. Pikachu also suffers from the crippling 90 base speed, but unlike Luke, it doesn't have anything better then Quick Attack to make up for this. Perhaps some day, Pikachu will get a broken ability (Hey, it happened to Wobuffet and Ditto) in order to make it a force to be reckoned with, but until then, this rodent is just another NFE poke that lost its spark a long time ago.

Couldn't have said it better myself. PIKACHU IS SO OVER RATED!!!!
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"words"
What's most annoying about it, is that whenever you mention pokemon to someone that's never played it, they are always like: "Oh you mean that show/game with that yellow thing? :D"

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Before the 4th gen i would have said pickachu because almost everyone knew it and nintendo picked it as a mascot (clefairy was WWAAAAAYYYY more deserving). Now i gotta say darkari (it's ugly, not as powerful as others, and has a very uncreative name).

IMO the most under rated poke' is either igglybuff (it's so cute but nobody gives a (alternate word for poop)) or giraffig (IDK it's a very average pokemon but luvdisc gets the title as most known average)
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2. I never said anything about "unoriginality".
really?
Infernape - lol blazekin
Glameow - lol skitty
Azelf - lol celebi
Garchomp - lol another overpowered pseudo-legendary dragon for sinnoh-lovers to dry hump
Gallade - lol scyther & another evolution to the antisocial queer and ballerina that is ralts and kirlia
sounds like your talking about originality to me. but who knows maybe i'm just crazy. :\

I'd have to say it's exactly the opposite. And aren't Pokemon supposed to be animals with superpowers? I'd much rather have an actual animal than some machine garbage like Metagross, Bronzong, Giratina, and Zekrom.
dont remember there being anything that states that pokemon were supposed to be animals. You even admit it yourself.
"HURR DURR TAKE OFF YOUR NOSTALGIA GLASSES HURR DURR MAGNETON DUGTRIO DODRIO HURR DURR RATTATA IS A MOUSE", you get the point. Good god, what do you expect of the first Pokemon you encounter? :/
It's a rat, deal with it.
hmm so we're meant to deal with it while you can't deal with the fact that some pokemon aren't animals?
The way i see it is pokemon are meant to be monsters. monsters can be anything. anything includes freaky mechanical things. whether you like it or not doesn't change the fact it's a pokemon.

All B&W Pokemon fail, and that's a fact.
hmm so whatever your opinion is, suddenly becomes fact does it? sure, i can see why you would hate some of the new pokemon but thats just your opinion. Also fail doesn't work in this context. Do you know what the creators intentions were when they were making these pokemon? it could have even been that they wanted to create a generation of pokemon that SandslashFTW would hate which would mean that the pokemon are a success.

if your going to troll, atleast don't contradict yourself. its a shame as you make sandslash look low. :(
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In My Opinion, I feel that Scizor is overrated. Personally, I love the design of Scizor but due to my personality I like being unique, I like being the individual that doesn't follow the crowd, which is why I see Scizor as being overrated because of its high use in Competitive Battling.

As for
SandslashFTW, I'll start by quoting Sydian.

SandslashFTW, once again, try to keep yourself cool as a cucumber, otherwise you'll see a locked sitting atop this thread soon enough.
Now, onto my second quote, which happens to be you. You are asking people for their opinion whether they dislike another Pokemon or disagree with your opinion.

Now start your ranting, or feel free to disagree with what I think. Go.
Pan posts later stating his opinion, what Pokemon he dislikes, and brings up further points for discussion.

(By the way, does MR. MIME function more like a HUMAN or a POKEMON?)
You take this as a personal stab when Mr. Mime was never mentioned before in this thread, nor was Pan even referring to you in his post.

I never said I liked Mr. Mime. And nobody's getting wet in their pants over any Mr. Mime, only Lucario.
You go on to say all Pokemon in Black and White are Machines.

And no, B&W "Pokemon" aren't Pokemon. They're machines.
There are several Pokemon that aren't machines, I'm only going to point out one since there is too many to list, but Aaken and Archeos are ancient birds. Nothing Mechanical. You then state this thread has nothing to do with stats, but about their design. I'll quote your first post when you created this thread.

Is there a Pokemon you just can't stand, but it gets so much love? A Pokemon that just gets on your nerves, but everyone seems to love it? If so, say it here.
Stats = A reason why a Pokemon can get on someones nerves, or why they can't stand it. Your next post is actually half useful, you somewhat politely state that you disagree and state why. Good Job.

I'd have to say it's exactly the opposite. And aren't Pokemon supposed to be animals with superpowers? I'd much rather have an actual animal than some machine garbage like Metagross, Bronzong, Giratina, and Zekrom. Also....
Then your post falls to pieces again. When you make a personal attack making out that they have some sort of mental illness, when all they were doing was stating their opinion, which is what you ask for in the first post of this thread.

"HURR DURR TAKE OFF YOUR NOSTALGIA GLASSES HURR DURR MAGNETON DUGTRIO DODRIO HURR DURR RATTATA IS A MOUSE", you get the point. Good god, what do you expect of the first Pokemon you encounter? :/
It's a rat, deal with it.
After that your next post isn't an opinion, you are forcing your belief on other people by stating they are facts.

All B&W Pokemon fail, and that's a fact.
The definition of "Fact" from Wikipedia.

The word fact can refer to verified information about past or present circumstances or events which are presented as objective reality. In science, it means a provable concept.
Your Opinion isn't verified information, nor is it a provable concept. If you disagree, please explain to me how you can prove a Pokemon fails, then again Pokemon isn't Science, so your argument would be invalid.

I'll ignore the next few posts as they are just personal attacks and should not have been posted. In My Opinion.

Now, on page three. You start with a personal attack, very original slamming someone for being as what you call "not-original". You then mention Ditto and babble on about it's design, when the only time Ditto was mention previously was about it's attacks.


1. First off, you aren't cool, unique, or original because of your green font. You're actually quite retarded.
2. I never said anything about "unoriginality".
3. I never mixed up Nintendo and GameFreak.
4. Ditto is the transformation Pokemon. It transforms into other Pokemon, you see? Understand the whole concept? That's why it's a blob. Why in hell would they give a transformation Pokemon a detailed design?
5. Fair enough, Ash's Pikachu is overrated.
6. Obvious troll is much too obvious. Sandslash FTW, baby.
So, I'm glad I could do what you asked, and input My Opinion and Disagree with you, while further contributing to the discussion and mentioned what Pokemon I feel is overrated.

Now start your ranting, or feel free to disagree with what I think. Go.
I hate making these types of posts. =[

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I think Pikachu is definitely overrated.
I don't calculate stat values, I don't breed my way to perfection, and I don't care about natures. I catch my Pokemon the way they are, and treat them like individuals instead of brainless drones. If you use this philosophy, copy & paste this into your signature
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really?

sounds like your talking about originality to me. but who knows maybe i'm just crazy. :\


dont remember there being anything that states that pokemon were supposed to be animals. You even admit it yourself.

hmm so we're meant to deal with it while you can't deal with the fact that some pokemon aren't animals?
The way i see it is pokemon are meant to be monsters. monsters can be anything. anything includes freaky mechanical things. whether you like it or not doesn't change the fact it's a pokemon.


hmm so whatever your opinion is, suddenly becomes fact does it? sure, i can see why you would hate some of the new pokemon but thats just your opinion. Also fail doesn't work in this context. Do you know what the creators intentions were when they were making these pokemon? it could have even been that they wanted to create a generation of pokemon that SandslashFTW would hate which would mean that the pokemon are a success.

if your going to troll, atleast don't contradict yourself. its a shame as you make sandslash look low. :(
Your avatar is the freaking chandelier Pokemon. Seriously, just stop talking. When a Pokemon is based on a chandelier, you know the series is going downhill. And when people actually like this chandelier, you know the fan base is experiencing mass retardation.
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Your avatar is the freaking chandelier Pokemon. Seriously, just stop talking. When a Pokemon is based on a chandelier, you know the series is going downhill. And when people actually like this chandelier, you know the fan base is experiencing mass retardation.
And when you post on a forum based around a kids game just to tell them they're retards because they like a character from a 3+ video game, well, I'm sure you know since that's you I just described. Seriously, you do realize that you're just acting like an immature troll? If not, you need to get yorself straightened out and sto crying over people liking something. It's like if an infant said they like po the best and their dad called them retarded because noonoo is clearly the best. Just...no.

And no, I don't think I'm cool because I have green font, liking a colour does not make one retarded.
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In My Opinion, I feel that Scizor is overrated. Personally, I love the design of Scizor but due to my personality I like being unique, I like being the individual that doesn't follow the crowd, which is why I see Scizor as being overrated because of its high use in Competitive Battling.

As for
SandslashFTW, I'll start by quoting Sydian.

Now, onto my second quote, which happens to be you. You are asking people for their opinion whether they dislike another Pokemon or disagree with your opinion.

Pan posts later stating his opinion, what Pokemon he dislikes, and brings up further points for discussion.

You take this as a personal stab when Mr. Mime was never mentioned before in this thread, nor was Pan even referring to you in his post.

You go on to say all Pokemon in Black and White are Machines.

There are several Pokemon that aren't machines, I'm only going to point out one since there is too many to list, but Aaken and Archeos are ancient birds. Nothing Mechanical. You then state this thread has nothing to do with stats, but about their design. I'll quote your first post when you created this thread.

Stats = A reason why a Pokemon can get on someones nerves, or why they can't stand it. Your next post is actually half useful, you somewhat politely state that you disagree and state why. Good Job.

Then your post falls to pieces again. When you make a personal attack making out that they have some sort of mental illness, when all they were doing was stating their opinion, which is what you ask for in the first post of this thread.

After that your next post isn't an opinion, you are forcing your belief on other people by stating they are facts.

The definition of "Fact" from Wikipedia.

Your Opinion isn't verified information, nor is it a provable concept. If you disagree, please explain to me how you can prove a Pokemon fails, then again Pokemon isn't Science, so your argument would be invalid.

I'll ignore the next few posts as they are just personal attacks and should not have been posted. In My Opinion.

Now, on page three. You start with a personal attack, very original slamming someone for being as what you call "not-original". You then mention Ditto and babble on about it's design, when the only time Ditto was mention previously was about it's attacks.


So, I'm glad I could do what you asked, and input My Opinion and Disagree with you, while further contributing to the discussion and mentioned what Pokemon I feel is overrated.

I hate making these types of posts. =[

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First off, I made this thread intending to debate with people. What's with you people and agreeing with everyone? What's the point of the forum if everybody just posts their opinion and moves along, with nobody to contrast on their opinion? God, this forum would be boring if I did that.

Secondly, I said Lucario looked too much like a human. Then Pan said Mr. Mime looked to much like a human. Of course he was referring to me. :/

Also, When I say all B&W Pokemon are machines, and that they all fail, I'm not being literal. Do you understand that? Obviously there are B&W Pokes that aren't machines, I'm not an idiot, I'm simply exaggerating, joking around, ever heard of that?

Oh, I hate making these posts too.



And when you post on a forum based around a kids game just to tell them they're retards because they like a character from a 3+ video game, well, I'm sure you know since that's you I just described. Seriously, you do realize that you're just acting like an immature troll? If not, you need to get yorself straightened out and sto crying over people liking something. It's like if an infant said they like po the best and their dad called them retarded because noonoo is clearly the best. Just...no.
I'm not crying about anything, haven't you idiots ever heard of debating? What is this forum for, people to skip around holding hands agreeing about crap? And no, this is nothing like a dad calling his infant a retard, that's a family relationship between a year old baby and his father. This is an internet forum. Learn the difference.
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Your avatar is the freaking chandelier Pokemon. Seriously, just stop talking. When a Pokemon is based on a chandelier, you know the series is going downhill. And when people actually like this chandelier, you know the fan base is experiencing mass retardation.
OK, now you're just being ridiculous.
You're acting like the previous generations were any more creative. T_T
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First off, I made this thread intending to debate with people. What's with you people and agreeing with everyone? What's the point of the forum if everybody just posts their opinion and moves along, with nobody to contrast on their opinion? God, this forum would be boring if I did that.

Secondly, I said Lucario looked too much like a human. Then Pan said Mr. Mime looked to much like a human. Of course he was referring to me. :/

Also, When I say all B&W Pokemon are machines, and that they all fail, I'm not being literal. Do you understand that? Obviously there are B&W Pokes that aren't machines, I'm not an idiot, I'm simply exaggerating, joking around, ever heard of that?

Oh, I hate making these posts too.


I'm not crying about anything, haven't you idiots ever heard of debating? What is this forum for, people to skip around holding hands agreeing about crap? And no, this is nothing like a dad calling his infant a retard, that's a family relationship between a year old baby and his father. This is an internet forum. Learn the difference.
You mean an internet forum with a kid who thinks he's more important than everyone, "I think you're kinda retarded because you like that character from a babies game. That really is quite retarded. Did I mention retarded?", well no, because it's a character from a video game, it's less retarded than the colour green, which btw, is not retarded.

Whoever banned him is now a god IMO.
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I won't really be commenting on stats/powerfulness, but rather in terms of aesthetics, and just the Pokemon itself.



I don't understand the obsession with Lucario, either. He's alright, but I don't get why he's so many people's favorite

Same with Quilava. Don't get me wrong, Typhlosion is a cool Final form, though he is one of my least favorite final form starters. Cyndaquil is pretty cool and cute, but he doesn't get much better. I mean, he's a mouse, right? Or is he a rat? What is Quilava? A weasel? A Ferret? I've heard people call Typhlosion a fire wolf, but even that seems to be a stretch. Still seems king of weaselly to me. Or maybe he's a Giant Fire-Ferret. Really though, what's the big hooplah over Quilava?

Though, I know many would feel the same about some of my favorites, Tyrannitar, Charizard, Squirtle, Heracross, Remoraid (he's a fish shaped like a gun that can breath ice,electricity, and even fire. Not to mention he turns into an octapus) Mamoswine, and Snorlax, to just name a few off-hand.

I suppose that's what is so grand about Pokemon. With so much variety, everyone will find ones they love, and ones that they don't understand others love of.
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I don't think Lugia's overrated, I just prefer Ho-oh's design much more.

It's also one of the most easily confused pokemon typewise. People keep thinking of it as a water-type when it's a psychic-type. It doesn't help that its design doesn't make it look like either. XD
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Your avatar is the freaking chandelier Pokemon. Seriously, just stop talking. When a Pokemon is based on a chandelier, you know the series is going downhill. And when people actually like this chandelier, you know the fan base is experiencing mass retardation.
hahaha there we go again. so you don't like talking to people who have a differant opinion to you? seriously, grow a pair of balls. opinion doesn't mean that all your opinions are fact and everybody else's is retarded. opinion is not fact, and it only makes you look retarded if you think other peoples opinions are retarded.
you talk about debating. you debate with facts, not through the bases of opinion. thats just dumb, it leads to nothing. facts are like the post that i posted before, where i stated that your kind of dumb based off the fact you consistenly contradict with yourself. and the fact you cant accept it shows that you fail at debating, so there really isnt any use trying. so yeh debate resolved, you are retared.
on topic though, i dont really think there is an overated pokemon. there isnt really that i think that stands out.
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AH MEK A LIST FOOS
Charizard
Slamance
Metagross
Tyranitar
Zoark
And all legendaries
Don't get me wrong I like all the pokemon above this BUT I despise pikapoop