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Old November 28th, 2004 (5:20 PM). Edited November 28th, 2004 by kirby00.
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Mr. Mime @ leftovers
EVS: sp def, sp attack, hp
Calm mind
Substitute
Baton pass
thunder wave/psychic

Espeon @*need help
Sunny day
Morning sun
Psychic
Hp fire *you could also squish in quick attack somewhere...*

Executor @+sp def berry
Solar beam
psychic
Hp ice
explosion

Wabbafett @ leftovers
Counter
Mirror coat
Encore
Destiny bond

Medicham @+attack berry
reversal/brick break
shadow ball
rock slide
endure

Metagross @ leftovers
Meteor mash
Earthquake
agility
aerial ace/hp flying *for a suprise and i didnt want 2 copy medichams moves b/c it wouldnt give as much variety

first send out the mime: * i used him for bping b/c he is soundproof*
thunderwave, then sub, then calm mind, then bp.
then send out espeon: sunny day, & heal/attack or switch to executor to give him speed and solarbeam.
Medicham and metagross are to psycial sweep, and i made sure they have diff moves for variety.
Wabbafett is to knock out a pokemon that is like a major threat * they cant escape.

the threats like dark pokemon are reduced thx to medicham, and metagross's types cancel out its weakness towards it. medicham's flying weakness isnt as bad b/c of rockslide, metagross's weakness towards ground isnt as bad b/c it has aerial ace *also for variety*. i am missing hazers/pseudohazers.
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Old November 28th, 2004 (5:35 PM).
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Mr Mime - consider pseudopassing to assist the rest of your team:

Mr [email protected]/Lum Berry
EV: 252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp Def
Nature: + Sp Def, - Att
Light Screen/Reflect
Baton Pass
Calm Mind
Psychic

Espeon - I'd give it some Houndoom protection, but since you have Exeggutor the Rain Dance/HP Water combo would work against the rest of your team. Try this instead:

[email protected]/Lum/Petaya Berry
EV: 252 Speed, 252 Sp Att, 6 Sp Def
Nature: + Sp Att, - Att
Calm Mind
Wish/Charm/HP Special
Psychic
Morning Sun/HP Special/Quick Attack

Exeggutor: Quite a few more possibilities here:

[email protected]/Quick Claw
EV: 252 Speed, 252 Sp Att, 6 Sp Def
Nature: + Sp Att, - Att
Sunny Day
Solarbeam
HP Fire/Sleep Powder/Leech Seed/Psychic
Psychic/Explosion/HP Fire/Leech Seed

Wobbuffet: Such an annoying thing, although status effects mess it up. Consider Safeguard over Destiny Bond if you like. Pseudopass Wish to help with it's sweeping.

Medicham - if you're going with Endure, why not use Salac Berry? Nothing scarier than a fast Pokemon with over 400 attack to abuse. Medicham's attack is high enough so Liechi is unnecessary (but CB Medicham can be more deadly than CB Dugtrio).

Metagross - rather have HP Steel over Meteor Mash. HP Flying is an interesting surprise from Metagross, although Shadow Ball would probably be more effective.
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Old November 28th, 2004 (5:54 PM).
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wut is cb? and i didnt give it shadow ball b/c medicham has it... do u htink medicham could have baton pass? does pure power w/ bp get passed on to metagross?
i was woried for excutor having the sunnyday b/c of low sp. defense and speed. ice, dark, fire, are very common. flying and ghost arent as threatening, but sunny is too time consuming... i gave it to espeon b/c she could get calm mind from mime anyways, and she is faster and has better sp def. also her only weaknesses are ghost dark and bug
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Old November 28th, 2004 (6:00 PM).
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CB- Choice Band. Gives Medicham essentially 3 levels of Attack boost rather than the standard 2 from Pure Power. Just need to bear in mind who's actually faster when using this, since he's slower than a lot more Pokemon compared to Dugtrio. And I believe you can Baton Pass the Pure Power, but you don't regain it unless you pass it back.

Metagross - ok, I can see why you'd like to mix up the attacks. Try HP Bug for an interesting twist then, or Explosion, over HP Flying. Brick Break also works well here.
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Old November 28th, 2004 (6:33 PM).
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err... with sunny day, Exeggutor outruns anything except Ninjask, Deoxys E, and anything with agility you know O.o; As for the time consuming factor, it's not hard to pull it off... Just have to know when to use it.

Baton Pass can pass abilities? O.o; *confused*
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Pure Power just gives you two free levels of attack boost, which can be baton passed, but you lose those extra levels from the original Pokemon.

LOL And of course Baton Pass can't pass abilities, but it can pass boosts gained from abilities, like Speed Boost.
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LOL And of course Baton Pass can't pass abilities, but it can pass boosts gained from abilities, like Speed Boost.
And... how can baton pass give the attack boost from pure power? Pure power doubles your attack stat directly, not like how speed boost increases it as an effect of a move in battle...
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Actually, Pure Power's attack increase works exactly like a free Swords Dance, so it can be Baton Passed. It even says it can be if you turn on your GBA and look at your description for Pure Power.
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Actually, Pure Power's attack increase works exactly like a free Swords Dance, so it can be Baton Passed. It even says it can be if you turn on your GBA and look at your description for Pure Power.
But it can't be Hazed away, so I don't think it works that way. I'll have to go with frostweaver on this one. Pure Power can be Skill Swapped, though -- not Baton Passed.
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I'm fairly sure it can be bpassed...
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Old November 29th, 2004 (5:55 PM).
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just test it to see. also why hp bug? only good for other psychic and grass types... which metagross is resistant to anyways, rather just have hp flying for fighting, grass, ground, bug, etc. covers more types, covers ground weakness and if u think about it, alot more ppl consider aerial ace or hp flying than hp bug. its jsut more effective. also espeon and the rest covers wut flying doesnt: steel w/ hp fire, rock w/ solar beam, earthquake for electric,etc... using hp bug against psychic types would be the only advantage, but medicham already has shadow ball, and psychic pokemon arent that big of a threat... you yourself said medicham had high enough attack, so why go with the +attack items? with endure, reversal, and leichi berry, he gains speed, STAB from reversal, its power increases and its almost guaranteed a 1hko. I mean it makes sense that way. the reason i choose detiny bond was becuase of houndoom. it gets immunity to mirror coat, and it uses only special attacks. all my opponent has to do is bp a mean look/block and then switch to houndoom, and wabbafett is a gonner.
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Technically, you don't ever leave something other than a pseudohazer out against your friendly Mean looker to begin with, and for them to BP To a houndoom, you'd have to have sent Wobby out against a Mean looker, which is really begging for a "wtf do you think you're doing" really. Just switch in your pseudohazer and you = win.
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Pure Power just gives you two free levels of attack boost, which can be baton passed, but you lose those extra levels from the original Pokemon.

LOL And of course Baton Pass can't pass abilities, but it can pass boosts gained from abilities, like Speed Boost.
Pure Power does NOT give a free raise of attack boost. It just doubles the attack power of the Pokemon that has it. Speed Boost's effects can be BPed because it actually RAISES the speed of the Pokemon like a normal move. Since Pure Power/Huge Power do NOT raise the attack, merely double it (if you can understand what I am saying), the boost cannot be passed. Just like it cannot be Hazed either.
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Old November 30th, 2004 (4:19 PM).
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the point is, if you run into ie: the first 2 pokemon u send out are wab, and they send out a mean looker. plus it can be a pokemon that has mean look and its a suprise. also, all the opponent has to do is bp to get out of wab's ability and then do as they wish. anyways i still dont get the hp bug
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Pure Power does NOT give a free raise of attack boost. It just doubles the attack power of the Pokemon that has it. Speed Boost's effects can be BPed because it actually RAISES the speed of the Pokemon like a normal move. Since Pure Power/Huge Power do NOT raise the attack, merely double it (if you can understand what I am saying), the boost cannot be passed. Just like it cannot be Hazed either.
Exactly. Pure Power/Huge Power directly doubles the Attack stat only when in battle. Since it directly affects the stat on only the Pokémon that has the Ability, it cannot be Baton Passed.
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Kirby: Personally I'd switch, but I guess if you're a fan of sticking Wobby against obvious things that ML + BP (I can only think of Umbreon, Smeargle and Ariados on the top of my head, but there's prolly one or two more), then go for it. In most other cases, you'd switch to something that might counter this ML passing, and you know, pwn.
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when i tried to give endure to medicham for netbattling it didnt work b/c it only works for emerald... since i cant use the endure/reversal combo should i use brick break and double edge? or use reversal/focus punch and sub? really need help
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Better in many cases, since you won't suffer status effects.
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but which is better reversal or focus? and endure is better for reversal b/c it does more damage
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Example:

31 HP IVs;
0 HP EVs;
Thus, HP = 261;

HP/4 = 261/4 = 65.25;

Sub takes 1/4 of HP each turn cutting off any decimals.
1 turn of Sub: 196
2 turns of Sub: 131
3 turns of Sub: 66
4 turns of Sub: 1

Endure leaves you 1 HP. Sub leaves you 1 HP. Sub prevents status effects, Endure doesn't. Which one do you think is better now?
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sub takes too long... also i always worry i may go first if im using sub for focus punch... should i use fp or reversal? then i would prob have 2 lower speed... also im worried that mr. mime isnt that good of a bper, maybe its because i gave him lum instead of leftovers, but i feel he isnt too good... i chose him in the 1st place b/c he is psychic *my req.*, he is soundproof, *which prevent roar*, and he has good speed, gr8 sp def, and good sp attack, but I also dont know when to stop using clam mind and start using psychic or to start using baton pass... plz help O AND BTW I STARTED NETBATTLING TODAY AND SO FAR I AM WINNING ALOT W/ THIS TEAM! im so excited!
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