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Old December 11th, 2004 (10:13 PM).
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Since Claydol's only physical weakness is (I think) Bug
sup ghost types
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Old December 11th, 2004 (10:34 PM). Edited December 11th, 2004 by Phlemingo.
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Yeah... my mistake. He can use psychic for ghosts, since most ghosts that are being used are part poison, but megahorn would likely kill in one hit.
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Old December 12th, 2004 (6:19 AM).
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The only Megahorn's I see are Hera [HIE fighting type] and Rhydon [HIE rock type] Quake and Psychic.
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The only Megahorn's I see are Hera [HIE fighting type] and Rhydon [HIE rock type] Quake and Psychic.
theres also the very UU swift swiming megahorn + hp ground + hydropump/surf + rain dance seaking ;-)
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Old December 12th, 2004 (12:37 PM).
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and dont forget that Megahorn on heracross is something like 120 base power, 100% accuracy, STAB, possible Choice band, possible swarm after enduring psychic and he is faster than claydol so if heracross comes out claydol is screwed.
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Old December 12th, 2004 (1:00 PM).
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and dont forget that Megahorn on heracross is something like 120 base power, 100% accuracy, STAB, possible Choice band, possible swarm after enduring psychic and he is faster than claydol so if heracross comes out claydol is screwed.
endure + choice band... nice =D
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Old December 12th, 2004 (1:36 PM).
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both possible and u can endure and then switch out and switch in back later...
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both possible and u can endure and then switch out and switch in back later...
Without any speed boost so that any fast sweeper screws you over.
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The point of Enduring with Heracross is to activate a Salac Berry so it can sweep. You switch out - you lose the speed bonus, and Heracross isn't that fast without it. Besides, Swarm + Megahorn hurts, so it's not like he needs a Choice Band to sweep.
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Old December 12th, 2004 (3:52 PM).
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dont forget it has a flying weakness. anyways i wanted it to be a psychical tank because i alrdy have mr. mime ( a sp tank), and since mr. mime has reflect, i gave claydol: rest, toxic, eq, and lightscreen (cosmic power takes to long esp against hazers and roarers), btw whut is m00b?
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m00b = b00m = Explosion

That's it.
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Old December 12th, 2004 (10:36 PM).
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ya but to be a tank it has to last. why throw it all away in 1 turn? plus 2 eq does more than 1 explosion(@ least w/ stab), so really there is no point...
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Old December 12th, 2004 (10:56 PM).
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You don't get it do you? You m00b when you're in trouble. Noone asked you to do it on the first turn.
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Old December 13th, 2004 (11:47 AM).
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ya but to be a tank it has to last. why throw it all away in 1 turn? plus 2 eq does more than 1 explosion(@ least w/ stab), so really there is no point...
You toxic everything in sight, then explode on the counter monster(s) the team has -- heal bellers, et cetera.
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Old December 13th, 2004 (1:05 PM).
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just like HH said. :o Its a nice strat. Agiligross. :x
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ok ill give it explosion... and do u guys till think espeon need calm mind? it hardly has the life 2 last w/ it... and the sp a boosting berry hardly ever helps, i was thinking about giving esp the speed berry... also, so far i am letting executor keep quickclaw b/c it does come in handy, but im think about leftovers, esp since it has sleep powder... also im planning on using slowbro on my other team as a psycial tank, what nature, and evs should i give it? it has leftovers and has standard moveset: calm mind, surf, psychic, ice beam... advice plz
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Old December 13th, 2004 (5:24 PM).
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Calm Mind
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Psychic
HP Fire/Ice

Exeggutor only utilizes quick claw in moment of hax - not worth it. Sunny day makes it fast all the same. Slowbro... not sure.
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Old December 13th, 2004 (5:36 PM). Edited December 13th, 2004 by kirby00.
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why sub? and also for slowbro i changed it:
surf, calm mind, sub, yawn. @ leftovers
evs:252 hp
252 def
6 sp def
nature is -attack +sp def 9calm)
u yawn, sub, calm mind then sweep w/ surf... also it work more than u think, even if they switch out, it buys u an xtra turn...
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Old December 13th, 2004 (5:40 PM).
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YOu answered your question on why sub ;)
Switch Espy into tanks, espy subs, tank toxic (no effect) or switch, free calm minding turn, next pokemon come out, break sub, you sub until petaya activates or you're confident of dealing heavy damage/OHKO, you get my drift?
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Old December 13th, 2004 (5:45 PM).
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also i added nature on to slowbro... he is a gr8 tank!, u yawn then they sleep or switch, then u sub, and with high hp, high def u can leftovers heal and tank psycial, and after u calm mind sp def is high too! im glad i thought of that move set all by myself... yay! and ya i changed espeon to what u said....
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Old December 13th, 2004 (5:53 PM).
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But Slowbro can hardly attack. They send out ludicolo. You can hardly affect him... especially if there's sleep clause already.
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Old December 13th, 2004 (6:00 PM).
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not w/ calm mind, and switching sjut gives me another turn... and raindance gives me the attack boost since all ludos use it. with 6 salm minds it did 67% dmaage to blastoise (im battling 1 right now)./ and blastoise have good sp def naturally (and that w/o raindance)
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Old December 13th, 2004 (6:18 PM).
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Usually, you should be fast too... this lets haze take effect if you're too slow. Meh, I'm not sure, I just think it isn't a good idea to use surf as your only attacking move.
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Slowbro shouldn't be using sub... give it another attack. It makes you too vulnerable to water absorbers, or other calm minding water types. We don't see Calmcune using sub and rest together, hmm? We only see Calmkou with sub, calm mind and 2 attack, or calmcune with rest/roar, calm mind and 2 attack. Never will they take only one offensive move... If you're calm minding, have 2 attacks... treat that as a minimum requirement.
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I think I should make an all psychic team. ;D

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