The Flame in Charmander's Tail

Started by TheFuturePokemon November 14th, 2010 7:25 PM
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By all indications when the flame goes out so does Charmander or any of it's family line dies. I would see the flame as it's heart if the flame is strong then it is indication of a healthy Charmander if it is not much of the flame the Charmander is either weak or in a state of weakness.

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When the flame of a Charmander's tail blows out it will die?

Does it mean Die, DIE!

or Faint? or something else.
I'm pretty sure it should really die... as in DIE! kind of die. But as we all should know Pokemon, we really don't want anyone to DIE here >__>

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^they've come close though.(The Line in General not just Charmander)

Though we all know Pokemon die though I'm not really sure but I think Charmander is the only one we actually know how it dies. right? is it an old age thing? injuries from a battle ?I don't recall the Games/Anime elaborating on it .

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^they've come close though.(The Line in General not just Charmander)

Though we all know Pokemon die though I'm not really sure but I think Charmander is the only one we actually know how it dies. right? is it an old age thing? injuries from a battle ?I don't recall the Games/Anime elaborating on it .
Yeah, they wouldn't elaborate much on the concept of 'death' in Pokemon, it being a kids show. So, I think a mature topic like death is rather avoided.

I don't recall any other Pokemon who could die in a specific way... So, I think it's only Charmander, who has a particular way.

Injuries from battles? I don't think so because as soon as Pokemon faint, they are taken to Pokemon Centers straight away. I don't recall anything about this either. :\ I'm pretty sure that Pokemon die from old age though.

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If the flame on the tail goes out on Charmander, it would die, not just faint. I guess it doesn't seem all that surprising, because we know that Pokemon CAN die (shown by the Pokemon Tower, for example), but Pokemon only faint in battle, they don't die.
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Well if we went by the anime neither Charizard was completely immersed in water Charizard's burning ambitions. IF my memory is correct Charizard tries to fight a charizard in the valley and gets creamed and then he gets kicked out. Liza responds by closes the gates then Charizard slams on the door till she reopens the gate. Ash then demands a battle with Charla (Liza Charizard) which Charla responds by grabbing charizard and throwing him in the lake head first. Completely soaking him including his Flame

Also In Island of Giant pokemon the Whole gang and their pokemon as well of team rocket and they ride a cable car which breaks and lads into the water with all of them and their pokemon including Charmander
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I can buy that but just for a little bit of a healthy debate in pokemon Shipwreck when charmander burned a hole in the ship water came rushing out then he rushed away from the water holding it tail running so the flame would not get wet, This could be seen as evidence against your theory. Again not trying to be rude just trying to get a bit of a debate going cause im kinda bored.
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If something that determined if you lived or died was located outside your body would you take any chances with it ? I wouldn't.also this can be just a fear of water as he is a fire type and he merely had his tail forward so he would not get any of his body wet as tails tend to tail behind things. and agreed a healthy discussion never hurt anybody
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Agreed u defended your point quite well and you did have me won over with your fist point but i wanted to see how far we could go with that and unless i was to argue something really stupid So I'm giving this debate to You
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Well considering what is said, yes Charmander will "Die."
It is rather an interesting thing in all fairness. I don't really think it could actually happen though, I think it's just somthing made up by the anime.

Heres a little pokedex entry:
Obviously prefers hot places. When it rains, steam is said to spout from the tip of its tail.
Thats some sort of proof it shouldn't really die when it's fire goes out. Ash tried his hardest to get Charmander out of the rain so it wouldn't die.

Also something interesting it doesn't seem to happen with any other pokémon in the anime with visible flame on their bodies. E.g. In a DP episode Cynthia said Chimchars flame goes out when it goes to sleep.
There was nothing. Followed by everything. Swirling, burning specks of creation that circled life-giving suns. And then we reached to the light.

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also if a charmander could die as a result of its tail being extinguished be it by water,dirt suffocation etc... wouldn't there be laws passed to prohibit the use of chamander and its line? some sort of humane society for Pokemon?

Also something interesting it doesn't seem to happen with any other pokémon in the anime with visible flame on their bodies. E.g. In a DP episode Cynthia said Chimchars flame goes out when it goes to sleep.
Yes but Blaziken wrist flames only flare up when it flexes it could a be a relaxation thing?or an energy conservation thing?

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But If Pokemon were in this world how could you enforce such a thing go to arrest someone for Pokemon Battling and get chased of By their Rhydon. and Crime whew the crime nothing says "Hit the floor this is a hold up" like a lava plume from a magmortar.

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Hell I'd give them my money if they sent out a Wurmple those things can bite you know.

wow this is getting pretty off topic isn't it? from How a Charmander diesto Pokemon Law Enforcement. which raise this question. In the episode with the red Gyrados Lance is works for some sort of law enforcement right? (or am I remembering thing wrong) He is referenced to as a "G-Man" which is slang for Government man alluding to the fact that there is a government. correct ?well where were these people during the events of the games I.E the Silph Takeover the Radio tower takeover,the Weather institute takeover, etc,.....
Ignore that Rant :D anyway yeah Charmander'd die

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wow this is getting pretty off topic isn't it?
Yeah, it is. ): So, let's steer this back on topic.

If you wish, you can open discussion to other Pokémon and their ways of dying in the anime. O_o;

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Well if we went by the anime neither Charizard was completely immersed in water Charizard's burning ambitions. IF my memory is correct Charizard tries to fight a charizard in the valley and gets creamed and then he gets kicked out. Liza responds by closes the gates then Charizard slams on the door till she reopens the gate. Ash then demands a battle with Charla (Liza Charizard) which Charla responds by grabbing charizard and throwing him in the lake head first. Completely soaking him including his Flame

Also In Island of Giant pokemon the Whole gang and their pokemon as well of team rocket and they ride a cable car which breaks and lads into the water with all of them and their pokemon including Charmander
I don't think being immersed in water has anything to do with it. If the Charmander's healthy the flame will probably come back once it's out of the water. The Charmander would probably just drown.


Thats some sort of proof it shouldn't really die when it's fire goes out. Ash tried his hardest to get Charmander out of the rain so it wouldn't die.
I think the flame's simply a sign of Charmander's health. That Charmander was starving, sick, and very cold. I don't think Charmander dies when the fire goes out, that makes absolute zero sense, even for Pokemon.

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I don't think Charmander dies when the fire goes out, that makes absolute zero sense, even for Pokemon.

I'm pretty sure that it was mentioned in the Anime that Charmander would die if the flame goes out.
This indeed is confusing... :\