Trainers with legendaries- Your stance? Page 2

Started by mervyn797 November 22nd, 2010 4:39 AM
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I agree, honestly I think the league should have had some sort of Uber rule or something? xD
I would agree with you. The reason legendary Pokemon should not be allowed to be used is to ensure a level playing field.
The battle between Takuto and Ash seemed so unfair to me.
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Who cares about a level playing field? It would be unfair to the trainers with legendary Pokémon if they were not allowed to use them. Why punish them just because other trainers don't have enough skill to catch other legendary Pokémon? Because it's unfair to other trainers? Tough **** for them. Let them have more skill.
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Isn't it possible that a trainer just befriended a legendary Pokemon who agreed to travel with him/her?
What does that change? I guess they would be able to use it since Ash used Haunter against Sabrina.

We weren't shown how Takuto acquired Darkrai and Latios anyway.
So? We're not shown how most trainers get any of their Pokémon.

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What does that change? I guess they would be able to use it since Ash used Haunter against Sabrina.
[jq]Why punish them just because other trainers don't have enough skill to catch other legendary Pokémon? Because it's unfair to other trainers? Tough **** for them. Let them have more skill. [/jq]
Well, does it require skill to befriend a legendary Pokemon?
And Haunter isn't a legendary Pokemon.
So? We're not shown how most trainers get any of their Pokémon.
Legendary Pokemon are special.
We ought to know how a trainer obtained it to judge whether it required some sort of skill or not.

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Ordinary trainers can have legendary, of course. However, it should be, if tiered, should only be in the OU-NU tiers. No Ubers please, cause we can't stand a freakin' Arceus. Heatran, Darkrai, and [email protected] are exceptions, since they are, as one post a few posts before me said, outcasts. Here is a list wom I should think trainers are allowed to have

Kanto:
None

Johto:
Celebi (?)

Hoenn:
Jirachi
Deoxys
Regi-bros
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Sinnoh:
Heatran
Drakrai
Cresselia

Unova:
Keludio (the blue horse thingy, trio master)
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Well, does it require skill to befriend a legendary Pokemon?


Are you implying that Takuto simply befriended Darkrai and Latios?

Anyway, no it probably doesn't require any skill. That doesn't change the fact that if the other trainers aren't skilled enough to defeat them then they don't deserve to win.

And Haunter isn't a legendary Pokemon.
I was using it as an example of a Pokémon that was used in an official match that was simply befriended.

Legendary Pokemon are special.
We ought to know how a trainer obtained it to judge whether it required some sort of skill or not.
They're clearly not special if they're being owned by trainers who don't get a single mention or another appearance in the league.

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Are you implying that Takuto simply befriended Darkrai and Latios?

Well, that is a possibility.
Anyway, no it probably doesn't require any skill. That doesn't change the fact that if the other trainers aren't skilled enough to defeat them then they don't deserve to win.

Quite true.
They're clearly not special if they're being owned by trainers who don't get a single mention or another appearance in the league.
They are special in the sense that they are clearly stronger than the normal Pokemon. (Better stats) Of course we have a few exceptions. Pikachu and Charizard for example, who have defeated legendary Pokemon before.
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Well, that is a possibility.
Did they come out of Poké Balls?

They are special in the sense that they are clearly stronger than the normal Pokemon. (Better stats) Of course we have a few exceptions. Pikachu and Charizard for example, who have defeated legendary Pokemon before.
They are still Pokémon though. And as you said they have been beaten before by regular Pokémon. With that, why is there a problem again?
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Do you have any proof that he befriended Darkrai and Latios? If not then why are you acting as though he did? Do you think that most trainers befriend their Pokémon or battle to catch them? Also, Noland befriended Articuno but did Articuno have a Poké Ball? No. Why would it be any different here if Darkrai and Latios were simply befriended?

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Do you have any proof that he befriended Darkrai and Latios?
There is no proof that he battled to catch them either.
If not then why are you acting as though he did?
I am considering all options.
Do you think that most trainers befriend their Pokémon or battle to catch them?
Both are equally possible.
Also, Noland befriended Articuno but did Articuno have a Poké Ball? No. Why would it be any different here if Darkrai and Latios were simply befriended?
Exceptions are always present.

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There is no proof that he battled to catch them either.
The fact that he didn't seem worried or compassionate when Darkrai was defeated and the fact the he was able to control and effectively defeat some Ash's more experienced Pokémon says he has enough skill to battle them.

I am considering all options.

Both are equally possible.
So you've given up on your position?

Exceptions are always present.
Except there's nothing suggesting that this is an exception.

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The fact that he didn't seem worried or compassionate when Darkrai was defeated and the fact the he was able to control and effectively defeat some Ash's more experienced Pokémon says he has enough skill to battle them.
There is absolutely no reason why one should panic when he has five other Pokemon left in his party. If Takuto using his Darkrai defeated all the gym leaders of Sinnoh with ease, it proves that Darkrai is pretty experienced as well.



So you've given up on your position?

Huh? What? From my first post itself I stated that it was a possibility.


Except there's nothing suggesting that this is an exception.

Why? Haven't there been cases before when Pokemon who were befriended traveled along with the trainer (in a Pokeball)?
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There is absolutely no reason why one should panic when he has five other Pokemon left in his party. If Takuto using his Darkrai defeated all the gym leaders of Sinnoh with ease, it proves that Darkrai is pretty experienced as well.
He didn't have to look panicked. He could've been worried for the Pokémon but didn't.

Huh? What? From my first post itself I stated that it was a possibility.
So you've been wasting my time with discussing something that you only thought "Was a possibility"?

Why? Haven't there been cases before when Pokemon who were befriended traveled along with the trainer (in a Pokeball)?
Outside of Squirtle and Lapras, I don't believe so.
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I don't think the developers should give regular trainers Legendary pokémon, at least not without an explanation. Its been emphasized too much in the past that catching legendary pokémon screws up the natural world.

Also, giving that guy at the end of the Sinnoh arc two legendary pokémon was a really cheap way of keeping Ash from winning the league. I usually don't mind when he loses as its usually done with an amazing battle, but...he just plain destroyed him. That was really disappointing. Did they even explain why he had those legendaries, or was it just something they threw in?
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It's been shown that that is really only associated with certain legendary Pokémon now like Lugia, Kyogre, and Groudon. It seems like these minor legendary Pokémon just aren't important enough anymore like they were in Gen I where there were only five legendary Pokémon in total.

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I'm fine with trainers owning legendary Pokemon. What could be wrong with something like trainers having legendary Pokemon in their team? They should be treated like normal Pokemon as well. We have had instances where regular Pokemon of Ash's team have defeated legendary Pokemon. Pikachu, Charizard and Sceptile were those.
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Im not really fond on the idea of trainers having legendary pokemon. Originally legendary pokemon were unique and rare and trainers only use to get glimpses of the mysterious beasts. Now, evidently in the sinnoh league with Takuto having two legendary pokemon, maybe even more? (only saw two of his pokemon through the league).

However with saying this and mentioned before somewhere the only real reason why I think the writers gave Takuto legendary pokemon was because Ash's pokemon were at a point where he could potentially win the sinnoh league. So really having legendary pokemon beat Ash showed us that his sinnoh team could be beaten. thus the reason why trainers are obtaining legendary pokemon.


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There's a reason why most trainers (and "collectors") do not have legendaries in the anime. Case in point-the events in Pokémon the Movie 2000.
Exactly. But they're so cool, though!

However, I'm guessing the events in The Power of One were triggered when Gelardan/Lawrence III tampered with specific Legendary Birds. One theory (that I dislike) is that there are more than one of each type of Legendary Pokemon (possibly barring Mewtwo, Ho-oh, and Arceus), so only the Legendary Birds near Shamouti Island could be the ones capable of escalating natural disasters if confronted. The rest might be a bit more tame...

I don't know...anyway, you still shouldn't mess with Legendaries though...insanely-powerful psychic cats, multicolored horses, and seven menacing dragons (one with a freaking drill/TURBINE TAIL, one with a massive torch tail, and one from another world) are some of the last things I'd dare to approach without properly trained Pokemon...

If we can catch, train, and use Legendaries in the games, I guess people in the anime can, too (Championship tournaments and conferences are debatable, though)... But Ash's Pikachu will still end up pwning/tying most of them anyway, so its a moot point. :P
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I think it is kinda odd seeig a trainer just walking around with a freaking legendary tailing them. My eyes bugged out when ash was entering the sinnoh league and some one had a legendary.

Also according to the pokemon handbook of the first #152 pokemon: "Some pokemon are so rare, they're one of a kind. They are: Articuno, Zapodos, Moltres,Mewtoo, eevee , and FARFETCH'D"......i dont know about u but ive seen all the pokemon at least 3 different episodes. AND SINCE WHEN WAS A FARFETCHED 1 OF A KIND?

Personally i think it ruins a battle/episode when a trainer has a legenary EXCEPT the guy with darkrai in sinnoh league. that was epic
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i dont mind so much seeing other trainers including Ash using Legendaries.. im not a fan of Legendary, when i see someone actually use Legendary i giggle and think "Legendaries are nothing more than currency to leave untouched and put in PC til next trade" :pink_giggle:
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