Before I say anything, I'd just like to mention that I really respect these comments you guys made as pertaining to my question :3 It summarizes everything really well.. but I just want to mention these things kinda like.. to see how you'd approach this argument.
The thing about "Tomboyish girls" isn't that they are trying to select clothing that is particularly masculine, but rather "Gender neutral" items such as a t-shirt or shorts.
Even back in the 50s when the shoulder-pads came into women's clothing, it had more to do for a statement of power rather than a statement of trying to be particularly more masculine, since most of these jackets were indeed paired with skirts, and were cinched at the waist to still create that feminine hourglass figure.
Jeans are also tailored to fit women's bodies.. to show off their round butt and whatnot is the goal for jeans.. and they make separate jeans for men.
But some men, instead of wearing skinny-jeans that are particularly MADE for men, rather wear women's skinny jeans.. this makes no sense to me. I mean.. it'd still definitely be perceived as weird if a woman were going to go around with a penciled-in moustache and chops.. :/
Erik, I totally understand what you're saying. I know it's not always looks that are the deciding factor for who you're ultimately attracted to. But I just find that many gay people that I know go out of their way to bring out their certain aspects of their feminine side instead of bringing it out naturally. (I've seen men in full women's garb.. head-to-toe but who also refuse to shave their long, shaggy beard.. and this just confuses me.) Also, I am curious.. are you saying that you find a sense of androgyny appealing or sexually appealing to you, then? Would you be attracted to a man that looks quite like a man? Or do you feel a lot of gay men are attracted to other men with hints of femininity to them?
:C Also for the record.. I'm not really talking about purses. In some places in europe the "man purse" is actually quite common and accepted, too.. I just don't think it's been properly introduced in other cultures just yet.
Also Pachy, are you saying that some people bring out their feminine side in a way to show that they're special? I mean.. what's wrong with being normal? Your "normal" should be YOURSELF, shouldn't it? Are you saying that in order to feel feminine, you have to wear feminine things?
Does that mean that you're implying that a lot of gay people want to feel more feminine and that's why they dress femininely?
Doesn't that throw the whole point of being proud to be a man and like other men out of whack? @
[email protected] Does this imply that they just kinda.. want to be a girl with a penis? Shouldn't they be proud of their masculinity instead of trying to become feminine?
I mean like.. gender-bender basically means.. wanting to push the limits of their gender into the opposite gender.. but then.. if you associate with the other gender, it doesn't make you gay anymore.
I mean.. even if you have a penis.. if you regard yourself as a woman, and want to be addressed as a woman and make this an ultimate declaration, you then ARE deemed as a woman regardless of if you took pills or did surgery and stuff, and you're not technically gay anymore.
Are you just saying that you feel comfortable in the other clothing? And you just LIKE it? Like.. how if someone likes pokemon that they shouldn't refrain from playing the game just because other people say "you're too old" or something?
Or are you just trying to find a way, ANY way.. to express yourself as an individual? Do you feel like you need to stand out from a crowd? And do you really feel it necessary to get rid of friends who like to associate with your exterior? I mean.. your exterior is still you- or rather, should still be you. Why would you be so tempted to cross-dress? Do you feel that you need to prove to everyone else that you're a feminine person? Do you want to do it because that's the sort of first impression you want to give people?
Are you also gay, if you don't mind me asking? And do you like to appeal to other men by giving some intrigue as to you being androgynous?
I dunno.. Both your explanations helped quite a lot.. because I kinda got to saw two different opinions..:3 So it was really nice and really informative.. but parts of it still doesn't really make sense to me.
I hope I didn't sound offensive in my reply.. but I'm just trying to wrap my head around all of this.. @
[email protected] Please excuse me if I did because that wasn't my intention..