Even if they run out of ideas, they can always have Ash go back to all the previous regions to re-compete so he can try for the leagues again. Nah, after the revolt he is going to marry all his female pokemon because the revolt would allow harem-marriages as well!
Ah, but first we must define what we mean by love.
Because naturally, attraction occurs because the biological objective of all organisms is to reproduce. Humans just have it more complex than it was millions of years ago.
... or maybe did I mean attraction? I can't seriously be implying that's its possible for N to love Touko? >__> Yes. I meant attraction, because one can love cupcakes, but one shouldn't have sex with cupcakes.
What was I on? weeeeee.... *edits*
Shipping was never about love, it was about pitting two people/pokemon/things/right hands together and claiming they are attracted to each other.
not all forms of attraction are sexual, because one could find somebody cute but not fantisize about having sex with them. also i forgot to mention in my last post that i'm an asexual myself. i've had crushes on the opposite sex but never desired to have sex with any of them. also i suppport a couple based on if they are compatible or not. i ship romances, not sexual flings
I like how everyone jumps to the "not all love is about sex". Funny. I stand by AK47 on his first post.
Look at the fanfiction. Look at the shipping groups. How many do we see with talking about platonic love, friendship love, love of the "general kind"? No, it goes to the extreme, to the "i wanna have babies" part. That's the popular love, that's the mainstream media love that everyone talks about and hears about. That's what shipping has become. Not that you like somebody just for the sake of liking them and see how they interact with you. Instead we see more "making out" sessions per paragraph, fanart, whatever. That's not the kind of love I perceive in shippings. It's detestable. Why can't we have shippings based on canon interactions? Oh wait, those don't exist in Pokemon...wrong anime. @[email protected]
I know it's a touchy subject for this part of the series. Because it's how this anime came about with shippings, unlike other anime.
I like how everyone jumps to the "not all love is about sex". Funny. I stand by AK47 on his first post.
Look at the fanfiction. Look at the shipping groups. How many do we see with talking about platonic love, friendship love, love of the "general kind"? No, it goes to the extreme, to the "i wanna have babies" part. That's the popular love, that's the mainstream media love that everyone talks about and hears about. That's what shipping has become. Not that you like somebody just for the sake of liking them and see how they interact with you. Instead we see more "making out" sessions per paragraph, fanart, whatever. That's not the kind of love I perceive in shippings. It's detestable. Why can't we have shippings based on canon interactions? Oh wait, those don't exist in Pokemon...wrong anime. @[email protected]
I know it's a touchy subject for this part of the series. Because it's how this anime came about with shippings, unlike other anime.
This is why we don't read Fanfics. Fanfics can go crazy with that stuff I mean look at "A Day inside May" now that went from shipping into...yeah I would rather not talk about it but what Ruby said is true.
I remember...a LONG time ago, reading two fanfics on Fanart-Central, which got a revamp and every good piece of art and story vanished right when I was in the middle of reading an incestuous furry fanfic too!
"Rise of the Collector" and "Reign of the Collector"
it was a Pokeshipping fanfic with Ash and Misty...really good, and it kept the intercourse relatively sparse...
Yeah, you don't wanna read A Day Inside May, it's like Scott based it off a porn video he watched...I don't read fanfic because I know I'll just end up picking the wrong ones. You can find cute fanart everywhere, though.
I like how everyone jumps to the "not all love is about sex". Funny. I stand by AK47 on his first post.
Look at the fanfiction. Look at the shipping groups. How many do we see with talking about platonic love, friendship love, love of the "general kind"? No, it goes to the extreme, to the "i wanna have babies" part. That's the popular love, that's the mainstream media love that everyone talks about and hears about. That's what shipping has become. Not that you like somebody just for the sake of liking them and see how they interact with you. Instead we see more "making out" sessions per paragraph, fanart, whatever. That's not the kind of love I perceive in shippings. It's detestable. Why can't we have shippings based on canon interactions? Oh wait, those don't exist in Pokemon...wrong anime. @[email protected]
I know it's a touchy subject for this part of the series. Because it's how this anime came about with shippings, unlike other anime.
This is why I don't like the relationships in Twilight; Bella and Edward just sorta got together, and, from the dialogue they share with each other, I absolutely cannot understand why they like each other so much (ignoring the fact that "Edward's so beautiful I can't describe him!! >_>). Jacob and Bella have better conversations with each other, but even then they only seems friends. Not that I prefer Jacob/Bella to Edward/Bella....aaanyway.
Oh but Ash is immortal. Forever ten and can never be killed. Or perhaps just aging incredibly slowly like Jack Harkness.
...
/didn't just make that comparison
Only super-muscley shirtless guys are allowed in Twilight, though. Not sure if I'd want to see Ash that way @[email protected] At least Jacob's hot :P ...If anyone did find a Twilight/Pokemon crossover fanfic, I'd be willing to read. That'd be a laugh. Who would be the vampire, though?
he should be in his forties what with anime/movie time...
does time not Pass in the Pokemon universe?
Pokemon doesn't follow the Newtonian, Relativity, nor Quantum ways of physics at all. If you can throw 3 people up to the sky without enough force to kill people withing 30 meters of you, and they still survive, says who that Dialga can't screw around?
what's Ash/Oak shipping?
Professor Oak? Might be DaddyShipping (but that one assumes Sammy as in the 4th Movie)
I like how everyone jumps to the "not all love is about sex". Funny. I stand by AK47 on his first post.
Look at the fanfiction. Look at the shipping groups. How many do we see with talking about platonic love, friendship love, love of the "general kind"? No, it goes to the extreme, to the "i wanna have babies" part. That's the popular love, that's the mainstream media love that everyone talks about and hears about. That's what shipping has become. Not that you like somebody just for the sake of liking them and see how they interact with you. Instead we see more "making out" sessions per paragraph, fanart, whatever. That's not the kind of love I perceive in shippings. It's detestable. Why can't we have shippings based on canon interactions? Oh wait, those don't exist in Pokemon...wrong anime. @[email protected]
I know it's a touchy subject for this part of the series. Because it's how this anime came about with shippings, unlike other anime.
well not all fanfics with shippings in them contain sex in them, some just have romance and not sex. i personally support roamnce not sex, but for those of you who do that's fine. i'm just trying to say that shipping and love doesn't equal sex.
For the record, I'm cool with sex. *resident secret extremely moderate pervert* I just believe that, in a fandom like Pokémon, shipping defined as "you wan them to have sex" isn't the cut-and-dry answer, because you have monsters.
Anyway. *hand-raise* I WOULD LIKE TO INSERT SOME AWESOMELY ICKY TWILIGHT THEMES INTO THIS THREAD.
So! As an interview has confirmed, Grimsley's bases is that of two things: a gambler and a vampire. Shauntal is his night-creature opposite...she's based on a werewolf. I know, right? WTF. I can see it...kinda. But it's still cool. AND! We do have a Bel(la). Bianca!
Grimsley/Shauntal/Bianca...BreakingDawnshipping (because we already have Eclipse, Twilight, and...no, we don't have NewMoon, but I'm going to coin something involving Darkrai, so we will have-- oh, Bianca/Darkrai for NewMoonshipping, oorah!)
Uhh why is Twilight suddenly injected into this thread, please keep on topic people... And I don't mind human/pokemon relationships, sexual or not, because Im a fanfic writer and have to be open-minded.
Still looking for an Ash/Fem.Darkrai story...
Originally Posted by NamikazeKyuubi
[ Original Post ]
Uhh why is Twilight suddenly injected into this thread, please keep on topic people...
Considering nowhere in the first post says we have to stick strictly to Pokémon ships (it's just assumed it must be) in the thread, some veering "off-topic" (of which there isn't much of one) is hardly harmful and not really against any current rules. :B
Never said its against any rules, just saying that Twilight(gags, vomits and starts bleeding from the eyes) discussions should be held in Twilight websites, not Pokemon shipping thread.
Originally Posted by NamikazeKyuubi
[ Original Post ]
Uhh why is Twilight suddenly injected into this thread, please keep on topic people...
Considering nowhere in the first post says we have to stick strictly to Pokémon ships (it's just assumed it must be) in the thread, some veering "off-topic" (of which there isn't much of one) is hardly harmful and not really against any current rules. :B
Drifting off topic is strongly discouraged
For us old prunes, this was sort of a problem. But now it's got it's comfy place in the rules. This is mostly in effect because of some disastrous results in unneeded debates/barfights
For the record, I'm cool with sex. *resident secret extremely moderate pervert* I just believe that, in a fandom like Pokémon, shipping defined as "you wan them to have sex" isn't the cut-and-dry answer, because you have monsters.
Agh, right. Shipping is more close to general attraction. I'm hoping for that to be the cut-and-dry.
well not all fanfics with shippings in them contain sex in them, some just have romance and not sex. i personally support roamnce not sex, but for those of you who do that's fine. i'm just trying to say that shipping and love doesn't equal sex.
Right, since if most of the fanfics you read had sex, you'd be reading in thw wrong site Todavia tengo copia de 'Un Dia Adentro de May", si estan interesados.
Ash: *flexes muscles* Hey girls
Every girl even who had just a remote crush on him: Turned ON
Usually, the dumb people get strong, and the weak people get smart. Ash has proven himself to be dumb. Therefore, *fix'd*
For us old prunes, this was sort of a problem. But now it's got it's comfy place in the rules. This is mostly in effect because of some disastrous results in unneeded debates/barfights
Spoiler:
Contesting! What "is" the topic if Pokemon itself is not properly mentioned as that stick-to topic in the first post? The only thing that's mentioned explicitly is shipping...and shipping isn't just a Pokémon phenomenon. It covers, oh, Twilight, too. The title is "The Official PokéCommunity Shipping Debates." Plain ol' "Shipping Debates". Still no mention of being strictly Pokémon only.
"Drifting off topic is strongly discouraged" So I can't talk about shoes, since shoes has nothing to do with shipping. If I'm on Team Jacob and this is why, it's "on topic", because it's shipping.
Read as: the rules, they have textual loop holes. You may wanna hit on what is actually off-topic. Assumptions, don't make 'em.
Agh, right. Shipping is more close to general attraction. I'm hoping for that to be the cut-and-dry.
Well, that, and if sex becomes part of the equation when what you 'ship involves ten year olds, you're not really 'shipping the characters, are you, if you must force them into an appropriate age, when what you fell in love with were how they interacted as children. It's like, "Hay! I love Pokeshipping...but they can't have sex for they are ten! Oh woe is me! *ages them up* For this is all they are good for: being adults!"
If you can't enjoy them being all cute as they are now, canonically...are you a 'shipper? The future isn't important if you don't like how they are now, they the characters aren't good enough until they're 16+. *shrug* It's better to 'ship adults, anyway. :B No judgment. Because if Pikashipping must include bestial sex, Pokeshipping must include underage pedo-bait. ...Which it does already, but I felt like making a point of it. <3
For us old prunes, this was sort of a problem. But now it's got it's comfy place in the rules. This is mostly in effect because of some disastrous results in unneeded debates/barfights
Spoiler:
Just keeping old memories alive, just keeping old memories alive...
So! As an interview has confirmed, Grimsley's bases is that of two things: a gambler and a vampire. Shauntal is his night-creature opposite...she's based on a werewolf. I know, right? WTF. I can see it...kinda. But it's still cool. AND! We do have a Bel(la). Bianca!
Grimsley/Shauntal/Bianca...BreakingDawnshipping (because we already have Eclipse, Twilight, and...no, we don't have NewMoon, but I'm going to coin something involving Darkrai, so we will have-- oh, Bianca/Darkrai for NewMoonshipping, oorah!)
Whoa, seriously?? Where is that interview? Although Bel's name fits...she has to be one of the personalities least suited to be Bella :S Bella mostly fits Marly from DP, I think
Whoa, seriously?? Where is that interview? Although Bel's name fits...she has to be one of the personalities least suited to be Bella Bella mostly fits Marly from DP, I think
There is one great philosophy of the world of shipping, fanfics, and the like: OOC. If I wanted Bianca to act like Bella, I could! ...People would hate me, but I could! It's got nothing to do with personality, anyway. It's all in the name. Name relations are easier to hop on than personality relations; they're quicker to recognize.
EDIT: ....Pffft. Darn, why did I take that literally. It's not "werewolf", it's "Nekomusume". Which makes tons more sense. :B I still stand by the 'ship name, though.
I agree. Let's cut the Twilight conversations to a minimum. BAD example to be using for shippings, imo.
Originally Posted by Frostik
If you can't enjoy them being all cute as they are now, canonically...are you a 'shipper? The future isn't important if you don't like how they are now, they the characters aren't good enough until they're 16+. *shrug* It's better to 'ship adults, anyway. :B No judgment.
What's the shipping for Blue (girl) and Oak, if it exists?
Those are from the Manga. I don't know the actual name for the shipping but I think there is a Manga Shipping debate some where and yes I agree no Twilight examples.