The Power of the King [Code Geass Fan Club] Page 2

Started by Livewire January 25th, 2011 8:25 PM
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Lelouch was driven mad by Nunnally's supposed death and the betrayal of the Black Knights. It's pretty hard to think rationally when you've been punted far past the despair event horizon.

Of course, how the Black Knights betrayed Lelouch was just plain bad writing. Again, nothing that happened after the nuking of Tokyo really made any sense.

As for Lelouch's leadership abilities, he may be a tactical genius and an expert at reading people's motives, but his management skills are just plain horrible. The Black Knights' command structure was severely flawed in that it was too centralized; without Lelouch to micromanage their every move, the Black Knights ceased to be a cohesive fighting force.
Exactly. Without Zero, the Black Kights were rabble, despite having some other assets like Rakshata and Tohdoh. And even they would be almost useless without a puppet master to tell them how to move and act.
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Exactly. Without Zero, the Black Kights were rabble, despite having some other assets like Rakshata and Tohdoh. And even they would be almost useless without a puppet master to tell them how to move and act.
Rakshata was definitely an invaluable asset to the Black Knights, but I still question Tohdoh's actual worth. If he was half as skilled a tactician as they said he was, he would have been able to salvage the first Black Rebellion in Lelouch's absence. The way I see it, he won at Itsukushima not by skill, but by a truly insane amount of luck.

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Rakshata was definitely an invaluable asset to the Black Knights, but I still question Tohdoh's actual worth. If he was half as skilled a tactician as they said he was, he would have been able to salvage the first Black Rebellion in Lelouch's absence. The way I see it, he won at Itsukushima not by skill, but by a truly insane amount of luck.
I do too, I do think however at the time Tohdoh had more military support from Kyoto, and overall, Japan at the time still possesed a degree of military power and unity, enough to potentially hold Brittania off, only for a little while. But I'm certain a fluke determined that battle, and it happened to favor the Japanese at the time.
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I do too, I do think however at the time Tohdoh had more military support from Kyoto, and overall, Japan at the time still possesed a degree of military power and unity, enough to potentially hold Brittania off, only for a little while. But I'm certain a fluke determined that battle, and it happened to favor the Japanese at the time.
When your opponents are stupid enough to actually use mecha despite knowing full well their weaknesses, you'd have to be truly incompetent to lose to the likes of them. The Miracle of Itsukushima really was a miracle.

The 35mm autocannons on the Type 89 IFV and Type 87 SPAAG would be more than enough to mess up a Knightmare Frame in short order. Of course, the 120mm gun on the Type 90 would be overkill against any Knightmare. Helicopters like the AH-1S Cobra and AH-64D Apache Longbow are the bane of tanks and other armored vehicles; why would they be less effective against Knightmares? Artillery pieces, be they towed like the FH-70 or self-propelled like the Type 99 and M270 MLRS, would pulverize Knightmares just as well as they would anything else. Hell, even infantry with Panzerfaust 3s, Carl Gustav recoilless rifles, and Type 01 LMATs would utterly slaughter any Knightmare Frames on the ground; if confronted with Knightmare VTOLs or Float System-equipped Knightmares, all they need to do is get out a few Type 91 SAMs.

Again, the Japanese Army as a whole must have been truly incompetent to lose against an opponent that uses mecha.

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Count me in, Gee-no. Took me long enough to come back here and spin you down. Will participate in discussion later.
Welcome to the club, suuuzacoo.

I actually have another discussion topic to add:

Favorite Knightmare Frame.



Mine would have to be this:

Spoiler:


Tristan Divider

and secondly,


The Shinkiro

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I NEED to join that club !! >n<

Spoiler:
For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?

I think it was justified, and worth in the end. Although, there sure are some people who died innocently, like when Euphemia -but it wasn't really Lelouch's fault- killed all the japanese people.

Who is your favorite character and why?

Hum...Lelouch, because I like his voice, style and Lelouch...yeah. xD
But I also like Suzaku, Gino and Lloyd, yeah. :D

Favorite Knightmare Frame and why?
Lancelot, because I like its design and power :D


Like seriously...I didn't know there were a Code Geass FC !! ;A;
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I NEED to join that club !! >n<

Spoiler:
For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?

I think it was justified, and worth in the end. Although, there sure are some people who died innocently, like when Euphemia -but it wasn't really Lelouch's fault- killed all the japanese people.

Who is your favorite character and why?

Hum...Lelouch, because I like his voice, style and Lelouch...yeah. xD
But I also like Suzaku, Gino and Lloyd, yeah. :D

Favorite Knightmare Frame and why?
Lancelot, because I like its design and power :D


Like seriously...I didn't know there were a Code Geass FC !! ;A;
Welcome aboard! :D Yes, I had been meaning to make this for quite some time.

Now, has anybody heard about R3, the supposed new season? I've heard some scattered ideas, but I haven't seen any concrete proof of its existence yet.

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Welcome aboard! :D Yes, I had been meaning to make this for quite some time.

Now, has anybody heard about R3, the supposed new season? I've heard some scattered ideas, but I haven't seen any concrete proof of its existence yet.
Great idea ! >u<b

And yeah, but this

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Prevented me from wanting to watch it. xD
So I personnaly don't think I am going to watch it. Ever.
Unless Lelouch is the main character again. xD
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Now, has anybody heard about R3, the supposed new season? I've heard some scattered ideas, but I haven't seen any concrete proof of its existence yet.
Yeah there are rumors... just like SE mentioned there won't be Lelouch as main char but some new dude with mechanical arm.
It's going to be 3 or more years after R2 =)
That's what I've seen.
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Great idea ! >u<b

And yeah, but this

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Prevented me from wanting to watch it. xD
So I personnaly don't think I am going to watch it. Ever.
Unless Lelouch is the main character again. xD
That is absolutely hideous. It has to be be a fake, because that looks like trash someone just drew. :x
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That's not a promotion for a third season, that's a promotion for the prequel manga Renya of Darkness, which began publication last year. Seriously, it's VERY old news. Besides, the closest we're ever going to get to a third season is going to be that Akito of the Ruined Land side story. Again, that's also old news. Really, would it kill any of you to do some actual research before jumping the gun on speculation?

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That's not a promotion for a third season, that's a promotion for the prequel manga Renya of Darkness, which began publication last year. Seriously, it's VERY old news. Besides, the closest we're ever going to get to a third season is going to be that Akito of the Ruined Land side story. Again, that's also old news. Really, would it kill any of you to do some actual research before jumping the gun on speculation?
Well sorry, but I actually did research when Live posted about R3. And found many many rumors, all being quite confusing. I might just have visited the wrong sites, however, I still think R2 doesn't need a sequel. :C
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Hello, could I join? Finished Geass only abt two months ago.

For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?

Spoiler:
NO. I hate what lelouch did. He had the power of the Holy Brittanian military, the whole world, and then he has to say the only way for peace is suicide. I think the slaughter over the Damacles was justified, because that idiot schniezel would have nuked the world anyway. And so, I think that Lelouch did ok decisions before he was emperor of all, and later he was stupid and did suicide (technically).


Who is your favorite character and why?
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my favorite character is.... Loyd. That guy is just funny.


Favorite Knightmare Frame and why?
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I liked the frame Lelouch used (gawain?) best, mostly because of the hadron cannon.


Btw, I saw that you people were discussing R3. It is coming out. Confirmation:
I think its set in Europe. A group of Japanese soldiers are going in and have only a 10% success rate or something. Some more videos:
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Japanese, dunno what it says...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSPZzgKB0h4Fake opening, but looks really good.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfgrzZU3o_g

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Hello, could I join? Finished Geass only abt two months ago.

For those who have finished the series, did you feel that Lelouch's actions were justified? Was it worth it, in the end?, all the people who died over the course of the series?

Spoiler:
NO. I hate what lelouch did. He had the power of the Holy Brittanian military, the whole world, and then he has to say the only way for peace is suicide. I think the slaughter over the Damacles was justified, because that idiot schniezel would have nuked the world anyway. And so, I think that Lelouch did ok decisions before he was emperor of all, and later he was stupid and did suicide (technically).


Who is your favorite character and why?
Spoiler:
my favorite character is.... Loyd. That guy is just funny.


Favorite Knightmare Frame and why?
Spoiler:
I liked the frame Lelouch used (gawain?) best, mostly because of the hadron cannon.


Btw, I saw that you people were discussing R3. It is coming out. Confirmation:
I think its set in Europe. A group of Japanese soldiers are going in and have only a 10% success rate or something. Some more videos:
Spoiler:
Japanese, dunno what it says...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSPZzgKB0h4Fake opening, but looks really good.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfgrzZU3o_g
OH.

MY.

GOD.


I do sincerely hope all of that is true. That sounds amazing, to be honest. I still would like confirmation first. /goes to dig around
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If any of you grots bothered to read my earlier rant about the incompetence of the Japanese Army in Code Geass, it should be readily apparent that I don't like Knightmare Frames very much. If you're going to apply all these technological advances (Yggdrasil Drives, Blaze Luminous and Radiant Wave shields, VARIS rifles, hadron guns, et cetera) to mere mecha, why not also apply them to tanks and aircraft as well?
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Yes, I did read that and do not entirely agree with it. Its true that "conventional" machines can damage quite a bit on KF, but keeping the fictional part in mind, Brittania would not replace tanks and choppers with KF if they were so easily to destroy. Not to mention that Brittania already conquered a good part of the world and was on the winning hand in the battle with the rest (I think, it been a while back since I saw it).
You said: "If you're going to apply all these technological advances (Yggdrasil Drives, Blaze Luminous and Radiant Wave shields, VARIS rifles, hadron guns, et cetera) to mere mecha, why not also apply them to tanks and aircraft as well?"
They current KF were either successors of the conventional machines or were simply better in order for KF to replace them. That is usually how it works. Furthermore, the KF are way more versatile, agile, powerful and only need one man to pilot.
If I am not mistaken, the KF came to be after researching airplane escape pods. They wanted to give escape pods legs to get a way quickly after ejecting and after that even arm them and such. For some reason it appeared to be effective enough.



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Favorite Knighmare?
Shinkiro. It's knightmare of king. It has absolute defense and it can pwn everything with Hadron Cannon.
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Favorite Knighmare?
Shinkiro. It's knightmare of king. It has absolute defense and it can pwn everything with Hadron Cannon.
Shinkiro is one of the best designed Knightmares as well. It just looks really cool with the black/gold color scheme, and in japanese it means 'Mirage'. Pretty cool. ^o^
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The Shinkiro may look aesthetically pleasing, but it's horribly flawed as an actual combat weapon. The Absolute Defense Territory system is unnecessarily complex to operate and cannot stand up to sustained attacks. The Zero Beam, while certainly a powerful weapon, requires that the shield be dropped before it can be used and needs an extremely fragile prism in order to be useful at long range. Without the Zero Beam, the Shinkiro is woefully underarmed, with only a pair of wrist-mounted light hadron guns for its backup armament; it has absolutely no way to defend itself against close-range attacks, as ultimately demonstrated when the Tristan Divider chopped it up into tiny pieces.