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Originally Posted by blaQk
Not to sound like a total tool or anything, but many of the RMTs that are posted make me feel like the poster put next to no effort into the build and I feel it's "beneath me" to waste my time trying to help when the only effort they put into was posting the thread.
I know this isn't always the case, but it's one of the main reasons I don't do rates.
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This is the case sometimes for me as well. Especially since we don't have to encourage fully-fleshed out RMTs like Smogon does, it's a lot harder to look like you've actually put a lot of effort into your team, I suppose.
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Originally Posted by Anti
And yeah D_a, I've heard the same sentiment of being worried about being corrected from a couple of people (probably the same people you talked to). I hate to rehash this issue AGAIN (since it's such a boring topic), but isn't intimidation still in some way a problem if people are afraid of being embarrassed for posting something that might be considered wrong or foolish? I mean, there is a rule that says not to rate rates, and respect is supposed to be something that is required here now. I don't know if it's all of the unnecessary sarcasm on the server (like wanting to use Heatran and then someone randomly spouting IDK LOOKS KINDA BLISSEY/WATERS/METAGAME WEAK LOL) but that really shouldn't be problem. I can only hope that some sort of help for team rating will boost confidence, but if the problem is still at least in part fear of other users' responses, then that's a problem that we should revisit. As "fun" as that will be...
In terms of the lack of motivation to rate poorly constructed teams/RMTs, I can't say I don't sympathize with that point of view. At the same time though, the respect members here all started off with bad teams and often times very bad RMT threads. It's not like you have to write an essay. Pointing out obvious stuff takes about five minutes and at least increases the chances that the OP will become engaged and will try harder. I mean, I can't go after anyone for ignoring awful RMTs/teams, but we should probably pay a little time and effort. Also, don't confuse not editing the OP or testing things extensively with a lack of effort. I can remember back long enough to recall when I put a lot of thought into the teams I made but little into the testing or RMTs themselves. It wasn't a lack of effort but rather that I didn't really understand what a difference testing makes. Just like how new users now won't understand the new reality that if you don't have a sparkly threat list and unique pictures and color schemes in your RMT, it's not a great thread. But that's another discussion entirely.
Maybe that's just me though. The really important things is that the workable RMTs aren't being ignored...as they currently are =/
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Yeah, I agree with you. I've kinda been trying to up my own activity here (yeah one rate! more with the threat list too, though...) and I honestly think that the most encouraging thing to get me to rate more is to have D_A or someone who recognizes my problems come by and correct my rate. Not like "hahaha don't use Gyarados it's awful in this metagame hahaha" but like actually encouraging and hopefully adding new direction or something to my thoughts. My biggest fear honestly isn't me saying something stupid that's going to be made fun of by the rest of the S&M community, it's that whatever I suggest is going to be awful and not even help the OP at all. I always feel like I'm unfamiliar with the metagame, hardly able to identify big threats with ease unless it's simply things like "oh you don't have an excadrill check". I'd rather have someone come by and tell me, "hey man, you could have said something about this and this too" or something. I don't know exactly what I'm looking for, but I hope I kinda got through there a bit maybe.
My other thing is that I always kind of feel like D_A gets everything covered when he posts. I look over what he said and I'm like yeah, I can see that threat and that one and that one and damn, I don't know how else to help this team.
But yeah, I'm really interested in activity coming back to S&M. I really want it to be a goal for us to have at least three or four rates per thread by regulars. I mean, there's no reason for a thread to not have at least a couple of legitimate rates, so long as they aren't just rehashing of other rates.
also b/w is the cause for me not posting earlier. :(