DS vs. PSP Page 13

Started by Spectrum December 9th, 2004 4:30 AM
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Well, which one?

Kairi

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You want 3D graphics? Go get a Gamecube. You want high quality 2D graphics, that, just by being limited to them, have produced countless quality games (IE Pokmon)? Get a GBA.

If you want dated 3D graphics, that is, 3D graphics that have had superiors availablefor a long time, of, get a DS. The GBA offers the highest quality 2D graphics. And 3D is not greater than 2D, it’s just different.

I have my opinion on SM64DS. But I won’t post it, because it’s an opinion of the game and means nothing. DS games aren’t just throwbacks to older titles, they’re throwbacks to older technology (bad) with a few new forced “innovations” for developers.

I don’t like the DS and the PSP. And yet I own all three major consoles, cause all of them have good games. And they’re all more or less the same, from a gameplay point of view. They all offers the mostly same controls and graphics. The DS and PSP retard this simplicity and try to stamp out uniqueness. Developers have never needed touch screens before to make the games people consider best. And forcing it on them isn’t going to necessarily make them make good (or bad) games.

And the PSP offers just the PS2 with the limitations and “benefits” of a handheld. Blah. IMO it all comes down to fandom, like I said. If you can’t draw that form this thread, then I advise you reread it.
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Kairi- The rest of us want 3D graphics. You can have your 2D out-dated graphics any day of the week.
They're hardly outdated. Alot of GBA games use buffed-up 2D visuals that look brand-spanking new. The screenshots and videos I've seen of Kingdom Hearts: CoM are amazing.

I'd be perfectly content sticking with GBA visuals for the next 10 years. I don't want a handheld that does everything my console's already capable of.
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Kairi, the DS is capable of much better 2D graphics. Now, if developers actually thought gamer's wanted that, then they would make them. The GBA's pixelated screen makes actually playing detailed games tough. Although, I love my GBA, my DS is way better. And, the only reason 2D exists is because that's all the technology that was available when games were first made. That's a dated technology.

Chikorita, Billy-chan- I'm not biased. While it is true that I like the DS better, it doesn't influence my posts. I draw logic from fact, not fandom. Simply put, "I LOVE THE PSP!" I think its awesome, even though I believe the DS to be the better handheld. Once the PSP comes stateside, you can count on me to get it, but only if Sony can show me that there are enough reasons to pay the price. =/

Kairi

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Pokejungle: Technically, so are the consoles. But they have 3D, and that’s the main focus of those systems. No one system has ever been able to focus on both graphicstyles at once.

2D is not dated. Why deny Nintendo’s success? I thought you liked them. Nintendo has had a monopoly on 2D games with the GBA. It does not have three 3D monopoly. Hence why the GBA outdoes the GCN, and all the other consoles too. Nintendo would be foolish to not understand the potential they have.

2D games are cheaper to create. This is a large draw for high quality developers. This has been proven by the GBA’s vast lead over the consoles. 2D is still very alive. 2D and 3D games play very differently. Every aspect is different. And 2D games are better suited to mobile hardware. The GBA has inferior graphics, fewer buttons, and a smaller screen than the consoles.

Yet it beats them. Why? Because it has a gametype (2D) that is not commonly found on any other console. This is its strength.

So what does the DS have? Its focus has been primarily 3D, and maybe stealing a little 2D from the GBA. So it doesn’t have the monpoly factor the GBA has.

And it doesn’t have the superior graphics in its 3D realm to make it stand out, either. All it has are its dual screens, touch, and mic. That’s it.

And the PSP has nothing but the fact it’s a handheld. It doesn’t have superior graphics, it doesn’t do 2D. All it is is a slightly modified version of a PS2. That’s not very standout.

So to conclude
GBA= smart, unique games that have been proven effective
DS= dated technology with a few very untested "innovations"
PSP= nothing
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I know!

http://psp.ign.com/articles/574/574557p1.html <-- Battery test. Got pretty bad results on everything but Sleep Mode [LMAO!] and MP3 playback. Made me a tad less excited. =/
That makes me hate the PSP even more...
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Kairi-

I'll tell you why the GBA does better:

-It's cheaper
-Games cost less
-Is portable [Big factor]

And, N64+ graphics are dated....for consoles. To put something like that into a portable is a monumental step in technology, a fact you won't accept. Its one thing to have a nice big console to support superior graphics, but fitting in that technology to something up to 1/10 of an X-box is nothing short of breathtaking.

An ending note- The portables with console-calibur graphics do offer something- portability. I don't know wether you have a screen for your consoles and take them everywhere you go, but, I don't. That's why its handy to have a DS, which has graphics that far surpass the GBA's. I guess I don't apperciate pixelated 2D graphics as much as you. I'd rather my next portable Pokemon game in 3D.

The DS also offers PictoChat, which many Sony fanppl pass off as "gimmicks". I don't have any clue why, but, I don't. When I can message my friends during class, have a chat with an anymous person on a train, I apperciate it.

Kairi

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Kairi-

I'll tell you why the GBA does better:

-It's cheaper
-Games cost less
-Is portable [Big factor]

And, N64+ graphics are dated....for consoles. To put something like that into a portable is a monumental step in technology, a fact you won't accept. Its one thing to have a nice big console to support superior graphics, but fitting in that technology to something up to 1/10 of an X-box is nothing short of breathtaking.

An ending note- The portables with console-calibur graphics do offer something- portability. I don't know wether you have a screen for your consoles and take them everywhere you go, but, I don't. That's why its handy to have a DS, which has graphics that far surpass the GBA's. I guess I don't apperciate pixelated 2D graphics as much as you. I'd rather my next portable Pokemon game in 3D.

The DS also offers PictoChat, which many Sony fanppl pass off as "gimmicks". I don't have any clue why, but, I don't. When I can message my friends during class, have a chat with an anymous person on a train, I apperciate it.
Yes, they are. And the PSP’s graphics are even more of a leap ahead. Ahead of Nintendo. If you want a portable system that’s just better graphics wise than the GBA, get a PSP. It’s better than both of Nintendo’s handhelds graphics wise.

And your view of 2D conflicts with the vast majority of the market. The majority decides who wins and loses, not you. The GBA offers something very different from the consoles. And it doesn't do it with gimics. Nintendo has something with the GBA. I pray they don't kill it with their gimmicy device.
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I already have GBA and games are still coming out for it...why get a DS when there are barely any good games released/announced for it yet? ^^; Nintendo released their new system a bit too quick.

I'm all for the PSP, it looks like it'll have better games for it. I get systems for the games, not for the graphics and battery life.
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The PSP may have better graphics, but it lacks the "gimmicks" [which I apperciate] and the battery power for the DS. My farming town is an hour+ away from any convience, meaning I'm in the car a lot. A PSP wouldn't last in my life =/ A DC adapter would be a must for me.

The GBA is an awesome console, no doubt. [joke]It itself was a giant leap from GBC. Did you whine about that step? I bet. And now you're drooling over it. I'd guess you'll be on the DS's side when the next portable revolution takes place =P[/joke]

Kairi

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The PSP may have better graphics, but it lacks the "gimmicks" [which I apperciate] and the battery power for the DS. My farming town is an hour+ away from any convience, meaning I'm in the car a lot. A PSP wouldn't last in my life =/ A DC adapter would be a must for me.

As others have been told many many times, that’s your situation. Not everyone else’s.
The GBA is an awesome console, no doubt. [joke]It itself was a giant leap from GBC. Did you whine about that step? I bet. And now you're drooling over it. I'd guess you'll be on the DS's side when the next portable revolution takes place =P[/joke]
The GBA was a step forward from the GBC. But it kept the 2D gamestyle. So yes, of course. Just like how the GCN is a better 3D console than the N64, the GBA is a better 2D one than the GBC. It’s progression on two separate levels.
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Of course the GBA was a step forward of the GBC. GBC=8 bit, GBA=32 bit. It skips 16 bit.

As others have been told many many times, thats your situation. Not everyone elses.

The GBA was a step forward from the GBA. But it kept the 2D gamestyle. So yes, of course. Just like how the GCN is a better 3D console than the N64, the GBA is a better 2D one than the GBC. Its progression on two separate levels.
The GBA was a step forward of the GBA? You need to edit your post... lol...
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As others have been told many many times, thats your situation. Not everyone elses.
Did I EVER claim it was anyone else's? I'm still wondering why you bothered to comment like that. 0.0'

It didn't leap into the realms of 3D though.
Nope, but sure did have better 2D!

PS- I changed my sig in your honour Kairi ^^

Kairi

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Of course the GBA was a step forward of the GBC. GBC=8 bit, GBA=32 bit. It skips 16 bit.


The GBA was a step forward of the GBA? You need to edit your post... lol...
Thanks for the heads up.^^;
Did I EVER claim it was anyone else's? I'm still wondering why you bothered to comment like that. 0.0'



Nope, but sure did have better 2D!

PS- I changed my sig in your honour Kairi ^^
Because -you- brought the point into the discussion, I countered it.
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Ummm...for Japan...yes. They've released, and the Japanese market is not going to be pleased if the USA/Euro version is overhauled and designed a lot better, and Sony knows that. I wouldn't be expecting an extreme makeover or anything =/

And yes, the DS has dead pixel problems...so what? Nintendo is replacing them even if only 1 has a problem. Sony hasn't even started to do anything about them.