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Originally Posted by Cradily
I was actually considering toxic spikes for the likes of ferrothorn then throwing stealth rock to cradily but the team would need balance and range, stealth rock adds a more different type to benefit the weaknesses of fire.
a good suggestion i can consider though :)
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Ferrothorn doesn't get Toxic Spikes.
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Originally Posted by Cradily
Might get some stick for a team like this as it is purley based on tanks, but i must say it does a great job, i will share
Cradily (who else?) Nature: Bold
Ability: Suction Cups
Item: Leftovers
Evs: 252 HP, 88 Special defence, 168 Defence
Moveset:
Toxic
Recover
Confuse Ray
Amnesia
Ferrothorn Nature: Relaxed, Impish
Ability: Barbs
Item: Rocky Helmet
Evs: 252 HP, 172 Special Defence, 84 Defence
Moveset:
Stealth Rock
Leech Seed
Curse
Gyro Ball
Bronzong Nature: Relaxed
Ability: Levitate
Item: Leftovers
Evs: 252 HP, 52 Attack, 204 defence
Moveset:
Reflect
Trick Room
Hypnosis
Gyro Ball
Umbreon Nature: Impish or Bold, Careful or Calm
Ability: Synchronize
Item: Leftover
Moveset:
Wish
Toxic
Baton Pass
Confuse Ray
Ludicolo Nature: Bold
Ability: Rain Dish
Item: Leftovers
Evs: 252 HP, 128 Defense, 128 Special Defense
Moveset
Rain Dance
Toxic
Leech Seed
Dive
Metagross Nature: Relaxed
Abilty: Clear Body
Item: Leftovers, Cheri Berry
Evs: 252 HP, 216 Defense, 40 Attack
Moveset:
Sleep Talk
Rest
Earthquake
Meteor Mash
Ok, might not be everyones cup of tea, but it does do the job, its a decent balance, fire types can do me in though so earthquake is there for that.
You might think WTF why sleep talk with Metagross, well it works wonders in a strong tank team and it only benefits really!
Bronzong is the main guy, he is the one who will set up trick room for my slow pokemon and reflect to add extra coverage for the team.
Umbreon and Cradily are basically stallers, confuse and toxic them.
Ludicolo adds a difference balance to toxic using leech seed with leftovers and ability to grab so much hp to be hard to beat, dive there for stab and counter taunt and to also protect itself for more hp regain.
Ferrothorn will set up stealth rock and leech seed to gain health and damage them via them switching, he will also curse to lose more speed and gain defence to cause Gyroball to do extra good damage.
Give me suggestions, the party does me well and is a great team, but pokemon can always improve and there are also weaknesses to everything :P
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If you were to face any common or successful team, I don't think this team would fare very well. Why? Two things: your team lacks a cutting edge, and you don't use the Pokemon to the best of their abilities. We'll address them both.
First and foremost, your team lacks any kind of cutting edge - a way to break into and beat other teams. Yeah, you have things like Toxic and stuff, but those are so long and drawn out that any other kind of team (be it offensive, defense, what-have-you) will kill off all of your Pokemon before it does any kind of significant damage. The playstyle that your team most resembles is stall, but... you don't have any way to stop opposing set-up sweepers, you can't really take any variety in hits at all, and even other stall beats you by setting up entry hazards and then roaring through all of your Pokemon until they die from entry hazards. Like I said, the only kind of cutting edge this team has is Toxic and Leech Seed, and that all can be stopped by Taunt and Substitute. It'd be really hard for this team to do well competitively if you can't even touch stuff because it's behind a Substitute.
Let's get it out here: you don't use any of these Pokemon to their maximum potential. Metagross, for example, has absolutely no business at all running two moves (that have awful coverage together) and Rest and Sleep Talk. What kind of hits is it supposed to tank? Anything with Earthquake or a Fire-type move or hell even a Fighting-type move is going to maul it while it naps. Metagross is an offensive Pokemon - everything about it screams offense and smash stuff hard, but you're trying to use it defensively. That doesn't work, and makes Metagross less effective than it could and should be. The rest of your Pokemon are similar to this.
What is my advice? Try a different style of team. You're not getting much out of this psuedo-stall if you're playing competent people - I think you'd learn a lot more about the metagame and how to play competitive Pokemon effectively if you tried perhaps to run an offensive team. At least that could break through Substitute.