How do you feel about Same-Sex Marriage?

Started by FreakyLocz14 April 16th, 2011 11:49 PM
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We've had debates about marijuana, abortion, health care, etc.

How do you feel about same-sex marriage? Do you support it? Why or why not?

I believe that if a state wants to legalize same-sex marriage, they should be able to. I don't think the federal government should meddle in the issue, however.

(Let's try to keep this debate civil, folks.)

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It should be allowed, People have the right to live there lifes how they want as long as it is not breaking laws and almost all laws are fair and balanced.

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How do you feel about same-sex marriage? Do you support it? Why or why not?
I'm definitely not against same-sex marriage. The arguments against gay marriage are usually bogus, and born from outdated religious perspectives. People should be able to marry whoever they want.

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Same sex marriage is not wrong. I believe that anyone who disagrees is simply being old-fashioned. This isn't a good thing always because as new generations pop out, society slowly drifts with them. I respect the arguments against them but I will NEVER agree.
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I am not against same-sex marriage but I think it should be named difference kind of old fashioned but I think marriage is between a man and a woman,
Civil partnership, same sex partnership, which is essentially marriage anyway I completely agree with
I'm also not really aware of the laws on transgender marriages but I do think that if someone undergoes that change then they should be classified as whatever gender they changed into and not classified as transgender


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I support gay marriage. I don't have any gay friends and I only know two or three gay people but I definitely support their right. To the people saying it'll ruin the word marriage, I think it has already been ruined by heterosexual couples with domestic abuse and countless divorces, so if the gays want to get married let them at it.

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Well if your on about a religious same sex marrage I would personally have to say that id disagree with it. I wouldn't want to be any part in a religion that houses so many people who have hatred towards same sex relations.
As for unreligous ceremonies or civil partnerships or whatever there called I think that it should be universal for it to be accepted and recognised.

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I give this post five pages...

Same-sex marriages I'm all for. It's a clichéd quote, but "they have the same right to get married and be as unhappy as the rest of us". If a couple wants to have not only the societal benefits that come with a marriage, but also the legal benefits that come with it: more power to them. I understand why people would not want to call it a 'marriage' and refer to it as something else, but I don't particularly agree with those reasons.

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I'm all for same sex marriage, I don't see what's wrong with it, if two people love each, shouldn't that be enough? People can't help it if they love a same sex. If people think marriage is so sacred, why not just outlaw divorce.









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People's objectioning probably stems from the matter of marriage oft being a religious observance, and most religions tend to get uppity about homosexual relationships. I hold no issue with same-sex marriage, I neither support nor admonish it; but will say that if one wishes to get married in a church by a vicar or somesuch, one should do so according to the stipulations of the relevant religion, or avoid doing so and instead marry secularly if those stipulations work against one (which they tend to, it seems).

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I am not against same-sex marriage but I think it should be named difference kind of old fashioned but I think marriage is between a man and a woman,
Civil partnership, same sex partnership, which is essentially marriage anyway I completely agree with
Except you don't agree with it bby. If it's not ~marriage~, it's not equality. Civil unions are meant to placate people who get squicked by the idea of gay marriage and still give the ~rights~ of marriage but they do fall short. And, if I may be blunt? I really don't care if people are squicked by the idea of gay marriage. That's their personal problem that they need to deal with. A squick is a squick. It shouldn't have any part in determining who can marry who. So long as the relationship is consensual and the people are of age, what does it matter?

Course I support it <3 There's no different between straight and gay relationships. They have the same heart breaks and the same happy glows. The same fights and spats, the same tears and huggles. The only thing really that's different is what happens in the bedroom and tbqh I don't wanna know about anyone's sex life regardless of who he/she is. v-v; No offense it's just not my business ehe <3

I'm even more strongly for gay adoption rights. My band director adopted a little girl nobody wanted who had extreme issues (special needs list) and she's now a totally normal healthy little girl. >:o take that people who think gays ruin children! There are tons of kids in the US who are in the foster care system waiting for a forever home and I bet money if they lessened the adoption rules and allowed gays more freedom in adopting, a good chunk of those kids would find loving forever homes <3

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It's not my business, so why should I punish them for it? If they're happy and not making anyone else not happy, then I'm perfectly fine with them doing what they want in life. :/

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Religion is not based on anything. It is an arbitrary and ridiculous concept. People have the right to have any delusions they want, but they do not have the right to enforce them on others. Homosexuals are not better or worse than the rest of us, they are essentially the same, save for their preferences. They deserve the same rights we deserve. Banning same-sex marriage is the same as banning interracial marriage. It is ridiculous, and the fact that people even think about it disgusts me.

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It should be a protected right mandated by the federal government. Individual states should not be allowed to prohibit what ought to be a basic human right.
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It should be a protected right mandated by the federal government. Individual states should not be allowed to prohibit what ought to be a basic human right.
These are my exact feelings on the matter. I'm actually disgusted that it isn't protected under any laws. Government and religion shouldn't be mixed, and that seems to be the case with marriage. It's both something political and religious, but -- then again -- to a lot of people, it's mostly one or the other...

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These are my exact feelings on the matter. I'm actually disgusted that it isn't protected under any laws. Government and religion shouldn't be mixed, and that seems to be the case with marriage. It's both something political and religious, but -- then again -- to a lot of people, it's mostly one or the other...
I agree it should be mandated but if you look at the fiasco in Iowa you'll see why that's still a generation or two away from happening.

Our House speaker for the House of Rep in Iowa pretty much committed political suicide by preventing a bill to revoke the gay marriage right from getting onto the floor. He's well aware he may not be reelected and he couldn't care less because he did what he thought was right.

For some people it's very similar to the interracial marriage crisis of the post ww2 and post civil rights era. My 91 year old grandmother cannot stand the idea of 'mixed blood' in a marriage. My parents and my uncles are completely for interracial marriage because they grew up in an era where it was widely accepted and tbh they couldn't care less.

In contrast, those same parents and relatives are adamantly against gay marriage. My generation is not.

I think, to some extent, that the issue of gay marriage is going to be a byproduct of 'it gets better' because, as morbid as it is, the opponents will age out or die out and the numbers for will be greater than the numbers against.

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For some people it's very similar to the interracial marriage crisis of the post ww2 and post civil rights era. My 91 year old grandmother cannot stand the idea of 'mixed blood' in a marriage. My parents and my uncles are completely for interracial marriage because they grew up in an era where it was widely accepted and tbh they couldn't care less.

In contrast, those same parents and relatives are adamantly against gay marriage. My generation is not.
My mother was talking to her 81-year-old aunt about how she couldn't find a job. My aunt blamed it on gay marriage. >_>


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For some people it's very similar to the interracial marriage crisis of the post ww2 and post civil rights era. My 91 year old grandmother cannot stand the idea of 'mixed blood' in a marriage. My parents and my uncles are completely for interracial marriage because they grew up in an era where it was widely accepted and tbh they couldn't care less.

In contrast, those same parents and relatives are adamantly against gay marriage. My generation is not.

I think, to some extent, that the issue of gay marriage is going to be a byproduct of 'it gets better' because, as morbid as it is, the opponents will age out or die out and the numbers for will be greater than the numbers against.
This 100% My grandparents were against interracial marriages and my parents ARE in one, but there's always going to be that one group that is looked upon as wrong. First it was interracial marriages and now that it's more widely accepted, gay marriage is taking the heat.

I don't get why people who are extremely against it are like "this is going to ruin our country and we'll fall to pieces because the sanctity of marriage is beind destroyed"! Well, the counties that DO leagalize gay marriage seem to be doing just fine imo, they're still there in one piece. I also agree when people say that people who abuse their spouses, get drunk and marry someone they've known for an hour, and get re-married seven times have already ruined the sanctity of "till death do us part".

It's just sad that people are denied the rights to be there for the person they love in times of medical crisis just because they're not "of kin". I read a book/memoir by the creator of the It Gets Better Project and he mentioned that he wasn't even allowed to pick up his dog from the vet because his boyfriend was the one who dropped the dog off and only a family member or wife could pick up the dog even though he had payed for the dog and everything.

It just sucks some people are so against other people for LOVING each other.

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I don't get why people who are extremely against it are like "this is going to ruin our country and we'll fall to pieces because the sanctity of marriage is beind destroyed"! Well, the counties that DO leagalize gay marriage seem to be doing just fine imo, they're still there in one piece. I also agree when people say that people who abuse their spouses, get drunk and marry someone they've known for an hour, and get re-married seven times have already ruined the sanctity of "till death do us part".
You used to not be able to get out of a Marriage. People went to drastic measures to get out of them. Henry the 8th anyone? It used to be arranged and this was in the days before women were worth anything more than property. Back then, a couple marrying out of love was taboo and breaking your marriage vows was an unforgivable sin.

Our society now treats marriage like a joke (which is ironic, they're fiercely protecting a joke) and there's nothing abhorrently wrong with ditching your wife or husband for a younger model. Divorce rates are at 50% or higher in most places and yet the older generations still cling onto that tradition of one man and one woman for all eternity. The gay couples I know (and I'm willing to admit that this view may not be accurate) have been together as long as if not longer than many of the straight couples in my area. The couple I mentioned in my initial post have been together for 24 years now.

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I don't feel like marriage is really that important. Marriage (of any kind, for anyone) is kind of old fashioned by itself. You don't need it to love someone. You don't need it to have a family. You don't need it to show you're committed. But if marriage is what two people want then they should be allowed to have it.

What we should really encourage, in the long run, is for all people to go for civil unions, or partnerships, or whatever term you want to use. With those you can decide how exactly you want to tie yourself to someone. It's an economic relationship when you get down to it because, as I said, you don't need anything to be in love and committed. Marriage doesn't really have any flexibility to it and for some people it might not be the best thing for them.

Of course the rest of society would need to get on board with this idea. You can't have people stubbornly refusing hospital visitations just because someone has a civil partnership instead of a marriage. So for now there should be marriages allowed for everyone because that's the quickest and easiest way to make things fair.
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Personally, I'm not gay or even bisexual. In fact, I'm a bit of a homophobe when it comes to actually being in a situation involving it (it makes me considerably uncomfortable physically, in a bad way). I'm in full support of gay rights, though.

As a legal service provided, it should be the same for whoever might be involved. Marriage is the union between two people that love each other (hopefully). The government recognizes marriages and provides benefits for the status.

Civil Union and those ideas are not separate but equal. Marriage has been around so long that it has a reputation that puts it above anything else that provides the same benefit. To deny it is simply repeating the idea of segregating things so people who have issues with certain minority groups get their way.

But it seems most people here agree with that sort of sentiment, so there's no need to elaborate more at the moment.

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Marriage is a fairly to an incredibly religious ceremony. I'm not too sure about disrespecting the values of say the Christians whose beliefs and teachings are against homosexuality.

However I am not a single part religious and will not be any time soon. Not only that, but marriage has certainly changed from what it was in the past. I dislike the belief of thinking homosexuality is wrong, but I don't know the validity about disregarding the values of those who have views against homosexuality just because they are extremely dissimilar to mine. And while I would like to encourage the change in religion to accept homosexuals and same-sex marriages, not only will that would create conflict within religious communities, that is like asking some to throw away a belief of theirs-- we would be as equally pushy as they are and at the point we are in society, that would just create conflict as well. But I do wish the anti-homosexual views and homophobic people (of course situational) would change, I do.

I suppose one would like to think that creating a separate ceremony with the same rights is a fine solution. But that only serves to separate homosexuals from society and common rights even more. We're stuck at the point of the religious people having difficulty accepting homosexuals/those that do not have the same one belief as them (and we all know how things end up when they clash). And as I'm not a single part (once again) involved in the religious community, I don't know whether I can have a say in the matter of changing religious values.

But my simple and ideal answer from the top of my head would be that they should be able to enjoy the rights of ceremonial celebration of unity (and the details that come with it) like any heterosexual human being as they haven't done anything to have that right revoked.