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Old December 14th, 2004 (12:04 PM).
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So what can I do to make this better? Its all pretty standard movesets, but I'll change anything, including pokemon (cept zangoose, I wuv him).

Jolteon w/petaya berry
Timid
EVs: 255 SpAtk, 255 Spd
Substitute
Thunderbolt
Hidden Power Grass
Bite

*yawn*...bite is handy for flinching and does fairly good damage to ghosts and psychics

Zangoose w/salac berry
Jolly
EVs: 255 spd, 255 atk
Swords Dance
Return/Brick Break
Shadowball
Quick attack

My quick attacker...nothing special

Milotic w/leftovers
Careful
EVs: 255 hp, 255 spdef
Surf
Ice Beam
Toxic
Recover



Snorlax w/leftovers
Adamant
EVs: 255 HP, 128 atk, 127 spdef
Substitute
Focus Punch
Shadow Ball
Rest


Donphan w/leftovers
Impish
EVs: 255 HP, 255 def
Earthquake
Roar
Rock Slide
Rapid Spin

Weezing w/leftovers
Impish
Evs: 255 Hp, 255 def
Sludge Bomb
Will O Wisp
Pain Split
Fire Blast/Haze

Fire blast surprises skarmory and metagross, sometimes...

So thats it. This team fears paralysis and sleep. But I hate all the heal bellers, so meh
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Old December 14th, 2004 (12:50 PM).
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So what can I do to make this better? Its all pretty standard movesets, but I'll change anything, including pokemon (cept zangoose, I wuv him).

Jolteon w/petaya berry
Timid
EVs: 255 SpAtk, 255 Spd
Substitute
Thunderbolt
Hidden Power Grass
Bite
*yawn* boring

Zangoose w/salac berry
Jolly
EVs: 255 spd, 255 atk
Swords Dance
Return/Brick Break
Shadowball
Quick attack
nope, not anything special

Milotic w/leftovers
Careful
EVs: 255 hp, 255 spdef
Surf
Ice Beam
Toxic
Recover



Snorlax w/leftovers
Adamant
EVs: 255 HP, 128 atk, 127 spdef
Substitute
Focus Punch
Shadow Ball
Rest


Donphan w/leftovers
Impish
EVs: 255 HP, 255 def
Earthquake
Roar
Rock Slide
Rapid Spin

Weezing w/leftovers
Impish
Evs: 255 Hp, 255 def
Sludge Bomb
Will O Wisp
Pain Split
Fire Blast/Haze

meh I'll leave the rest how it is, a nice standard team gj ;D

So thats it. This team fears paralysis and sleep. But I hate all the heal bellers, so meh

sidenote: I'm not touching your EVs because in order to learn how they work you have to learn for yourself, the art of EVing isnt something someone can teach you imho
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Old December 14th, 2004 (1:22 PM).
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Nature:Modest
EVs:252 HP, 200 Sp. def, 58 def
Ice Beam
Surf
Recover
Refresh

You know you can put 252 EVs in a stat to max it out and if you max two stats you should have 6 left to use in another stat, just tought I'd let you know.
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Old December 14th, 2004 (1:25 PM).
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Nature:Modest
EVs:252 HP, 200 Sp. def, 58 def
Ice Beam
Surf
Recover
Refresh

You know you can put 252 EVs in a stat to max it out and if you max two stats you should have 6 left to use in another stat, just tought I'd let you know.
Gotcha, thanks
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Old December 14th, 2004 (1:31 PM).
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Zangoose w/salac berry
Jolly
EVs: 255 spd, 255 atk
Swords Dance
Brick Break
Shadowball
Crush claw

Zangoose is aready fast enough without Quick atack and brick break is better.
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Old December 14th, 2004 (1:36 PM).
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Crush Claw is worthless
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- Swords Dance
- Return/Brick Break
- Shadow Ball
- Quick Attack

Quick Attack is for reversal pokes like heracross
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Old December 14th, 2004 (1:39 PM).
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Crusl claw is good for physical damage because it can lower defense.
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Old December 14th, 2004 (2:05 PM).
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Crush Claw doesn't really do that much damage overall, and the chance of lowering Defence is only 10%, so it's not worth the effort. If you want a Defence lowering move, Screech is the way to go (and can also act as a pseudohaze).
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Old December 14th, 2004 (2:24 PM).
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Jolteon with Bite is kinda useless... It doesn't help against against your one and only weakness. Also, Pokemon that use powerup moves such as Swords Dance or Calm Mind need Lum Berry to pull it off atleast 1 time, unless you have Sync or Rest/Refresh.

Zangoose @ Salac Berry
255 Atk 255 Spd
Substitute
Sword Dance
Flail
Shadowball

Or

Zangoose @ Lum Berry
Swords Dance
Return
Shadowball/Brick Break
Quick Attack
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Old December 14th, 2004 (4:14 PM).
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If Zangoose can only have either shadowball or brick break but not both, take shadowball. Why? Well...

-Pokemon that are weak to shadow ball are typically a lot lower in defense than those who are weak to brick break

-higher base power will ensure OHKO is the attack hit super-effective for shadow ball, while brick break can hardly score any OHKO

-having brick break against Skarmory/Steelix will not help too much better either way, but having Shadow ball just dooms Dusclops/Claydol right there and now
 

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