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Old December 16th, 2004 (1:58 PM).
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Quagsire- [atk + / sp.atk -] @ leftovers {Water Absorb}
EV: 136 hp, 252 atk, 120 def
-counter
-earthquake
-yawn
-focus punch

Pretty much the same as last time besides counter now replaces sludgebomb, which works a lot better against leading Aerodactyls and so on.

Yanma- [speed + / sp.atk -] @ liechi berry
EV: 249 atk, 252 speed, 8 hp
-reversal
-HP Bug
-shadow ball
-substitute

Can't get signal beam due to breeding move being illegal. Hp setup to be x/4 + 1. Changed from hypnosis special sweeper to physical sweeper... however, reversal still can't knock out most OUs who aren't even tanks... meh.

Clefable- [sp.atk + / atk -] @ leftovers
EV: 184 atk, 88 sp.atk, 236 sp.def
-calm mind
-ice beam
-magical leaf
-softboil

not that boltbeam is bad but so tired of using boltbeam for so long. Plus who doesn't like free swampert kills? *swampert paranoid*

Ampharos- [sp.atk + / atk -] @ quick claw
EV: 236 hp, 120 def, 152 sp.atk
-thunderbolt
-HP Ice
-counter
-thunder wave

survives any non-STAB/boosted earthquake and finishes the opponent in one hit ^^ that's alway handy. Quick claw to assist with final blow/slow speed a bit.

Sneasel- [speed + / sp.atk -] @ liechi berry
EV: 252 atk, 252 speed, 4 sp.def
-substitute
-quick attack
-shadow ball
-brick break/swords dance

Not much quick attacker left who can also physical sweep and is not commonly used already... >>; plus it's an ice type =D Using brick break right now because I've never seen a single chance to use swords dance and not die trying too.

Rhydon- [atk + / sp.atk -] @ leftovers
EV: 116 hp, 140 atk, 252 def
-roar
-megahorn
-earthquake
-rock blast

Pseudohazer, along with physical tanking. Rock blast to break subs and make fun of counter users. Easy to understand...

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Old December 16th, 2004 (6:23 PM).
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won't HP grass work better than magical leaf in the case of clefable?
i can't say i particularily like countering amphy but i guess it could work
i myself rather the bolt + subpunch....

as for sneasel
Sneasel[jolly]@choice band
EVs - Sp,Def,Att
return
quick attack/brick break
sword dance
shadow ball

thats another option in place of the one u got
but that works fine.......


other than that...........not much too say...........but i thought u said that subrev yanma does pack enough punch and that u should rely more on compound eyes and then sweep........or was it the other way around
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Old December 16th, 2004 (6:44 PM).
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other than that...........not much too say...........but i thought u said that subrev yanma does pack enough punch and that u should rely more on compound eyes and then sweep........or was it the other way around

You need Speed Boost for SubRev Yanma to work. Yanma isn't that fast, and it needs Liechi to attack well.
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Old December 16th, 2004 (8:40 PM).
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yes I did... because reversal really can't OHKO (around 80-90% dmg... that's a lot, but not enough when you're only hanging on by 1 hp). However, sometimes we make a moveset for a Pokemon not for the sake that it's the best but it's fun to play with and wants a bit of changes at times?
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Old December 17th, 2004 (12:41 PM).
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Quagsire- [atk + / sp.atk -] @ leftovers {Water Absorb}
EV: 136 hp, 252 atk, 120 def
-counter
-earthquake
-yawn
-focus punch

Pretty much the same as last time besides counter now replaces sludgebomb, which works a lot better against leading Aerodactyls and so on.
too bad I wasnt here last time =[

Yanma- [speed + / sp.atk -] @ liechi berry
EV: 249 atk, 252 speed, 8 hp
-reversal
-HP Bug
-shadow ball
-substitute

Can't get signal beam due to breeding move being illegal. Hp setup to be x/4 + 1. Changed from hypnosis special sweeper to physical sweeper... however, reversal still can't knock out most OUs who aren't even tanks... meh.
I suggest ditching this thing for something better. It just doesnt tend to get off the ground much =[

Clefable- [sp.atk + / atk -] @ leftovers
EV: 184 atk, 88 sp.atk, 236 sp.def
-calm mind
-ice beam
-magical leaf
-softboil

not that boltbeam is bad but so tired of using boltbeam for so long. Plus who doesn't like free swampert kills? *swampert paranoid*
I suppose this could work, or go with the ever so cool drumming fable =0

Ampharos- [sp.atk + / atk -] @ quick claw
EV: 236 hp, 120 def, 152 sp.atk
-thunderbolt
-HP Ice
-counter
-thunder wave

survives any non-STAB/boosted earthquake and finishes the opponent in one hit ^^ that's alway handy. Quick claw to assist with final blow/slow speed a bit.
too bad quick claw is banned on nb in tafop because it is messed up and activates too often =[

Sneasel- [speed + / sp.atk -] @ liechi berry
EV: 252 atk, 252 speed, 4 sp.def
-substitute
-quick attack
-shadow ball
-brick break/swords dance

Not much quick attacker left who can also physical sweep and is not commonly used already... >>; plus it's an ice type =D Using brick break right now because I've never seen a single chance to use swords dance and not die trying too.
I suppose it could work, whats its speed atm

Rhydon- [atk + / sp.atk -] @ leftovers
EV: 116 hp, 140 atk, 252 def
-roar
-megahorn
-earthquake
-rock blast

Pseudohazer, along with physical tanking. Rock blast to break subs and make fun of counter users. Easy to understand...
:o nicce

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Old December 17th, 2004 (3:49 PM).
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Just one question… unless that's a typo, why did you give Clefable Attack EVs when it has no physical attacks? Wouldn't that only make it hurt itself more if confused?
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Old December 17th, 2004 (4:19 PM).
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Just one question… unless that's a typo, why did you give Clefable Attack EVs when it has no physical attacks? Wouldn't that only make it hurt itself more if confused?
I think he meant HP.
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Old December 18th, 2004 (8:05 AM).
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Yeah, I kinda figured it'd be a typo XD
 

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