Guys, this topic is on the verge of being a flamefest.
Both arguments are true, however in my honest opinion both sides are also wrong, at least with dealing with each other.
However...SM, you really need to work on your social skills. And I don't mean in real-life, if someone insults you on the internet you don't go making a humongous post of why they're wrong. You either a) report it or b) ignore it, if it really bothers you that much.
Rekky, I have the same advice for you.
However the one thing that's relevant, to me at least, that both of you don't see each others views. SM, have you ever thought that you're sounding a bit conceded/very tunnel-visioned, and Rekky have you ever thought that you're coming off a bit harsh?
So the way this argument was handled, it was not intelligent. Just letting you have my two cents, before I report you.