The Rainbow Connection [LGBTS Club] Page 103

Started by Shining Raichu May 22nd, 2011 5:52 AM
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Really? Is that really a thing? I mean, I guess it's something that might occur to you or cross your mind in some hypothetical way, but Kiyoshi made it sound like his was having actual romantic thoughts about him. Which is fantastic (or would be if Kiyoshi were also interested lol), but not exactly what you'd expect of a straight guy.
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Am I the only person who finds those ads hilarious? Did y'all leave your senses of humour at home today? :P

EX-GAY, POST-GAY AND PROUD. GET OVER IT!


Because like... nobody with a brain would actually believe that. It is wide and common knowledge that ex-gay programs never work. I feel like they should have let those ads stay on the buses just to function as satire lmao. Like, making fun of times past when people actually did believe in that nonsense
I certainly find it somewhat hilarious, in a really really sad "There goes my faith in humanity" kind of way.

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Well, I think when you have a close friend who's gay, it's just naturally going to be on your mind, whether you want it to or not. For most people anyway.
Or maybe he's just curious. Or maybe he's heterosexual and biromantic. We shouldn't assume.

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Really? Is that really a thing? I mean, I guess it's something that might occur to you or cross your mind in some hypothetical way, but Kiyoshi made it sound like his was having actual romantic thoughts about him. Which is fantastic (or would be if Kiyoshi were also interested lol), but not exactly what you'd expect of a straight guy.
Well, I don't think it's really a thing... I just meant that it's most likely crossed his mind. lol

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Ugh, I hate talking about sexuality with straight people... makes you feel like a circus act or something. =/

I very very vaguely mentioned off hand that I wasn't straight on another forum, and the next two pages of the thread were nothing but trolling, and people talking down to me because they don't understand how you can be anything other than straight or gay.

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Eh, that's sad that they'd troll you about it. But luckily, in 90% of the cases, people on the internet are a billion times more liberal and open-minded than the people one knows in real life. That's my personal experience from it anyway.

I've hinted a number of times to some of my classmates whom I trust a bit that I am not straight. One of them's a really good friend of mine, but be sometimes jokingly makes homophobic comments everytime I mention it. I know he means it as a joke, and he absolutely isn't an actual homophobe, but it certainly makes it more difficult for me to be open about it.

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No, no. It's not that my friend Jordan is bicurious or anything of the sort or otherwise.

He hasn't had much luck romantically, so I completely understand if a good friend of his who hangs around him all day and is extremely handsome crosses his mind to think about what it'd be like. It's not like just because the thought crossed his mind he's gay/bi/whatever.

Haven't you ever thought what I'd be like with certain people, regardless of sex/gender? I've imagined what it'd be like with some awesome girls I know, but that doesn't make me not gay or anything. All the times I have my sexuality says "LOL NO GET BACK IN YOUR QUEER CORNER."

Well they sound like charming people. Could we have a link to this please?
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I kind of get what you mean. When I was a kid I often thought about my wedding day. I imagined myself standing at the altar of a church (because that was where I thought weddings had to be) while a woman with pale white skin and long dark hair walked down the aisle toward me - she was absolutely beautiful.

I'm not sure whether that makes me more or less gay...
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Well, if you still think she's beautiful. lol

Oddly enough I've always hated the idea of a wedding. I'd rather just love the person I want to love, and not have to shout it out to the world... but I'm a fairly shy person, so I guess that's why.

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I kind of get what you mean. When I was a kid I often thought about my wedding day. I imagined myself standing at the altar of a church (because that was where I thought weddings had to be) while a woman with pale white skin and long dark hair walked down the aisle toward me - she was absolutely beautiful.

I'm not sure whether that makes me more or less gay...
Depends on whether you also imagined you were the wedding planner.

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I can't speak to that video personally since the gay people I know are mostly nerds who-happen-to-be-gay and don't belong to big gay crowds or anything. But obviously hypocrisy makes you look really, really bad, and it's especially bad when you're trying to be the de facto spokespeople and supporters for someone like an anonymous bullied gay kid in school and you treat people bad.

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I actually disagree a bit with that video. This isn’t an issue that’s gay-specific. People judge other people based on their looks, or to be more blunt – how much or how little they want to have sex with them. It happens all the time. You see straight guys say this about girls, “no fat chicks” “big boobs don’t count if you’re fat” among a bunch of other insults. And then you see women do the same to men: “he’s fat”, “he’s balding”, “ he’s got too much body hair”.

It bothers me that he’s calling out gay people specifically for this and making the community as a whole seem like hypocrites because “as gay people we should know better”. Everybody is bullied in their lives for something about themselves; even straight people. Therefore everybody should know better.

We’re no better or worse than anybody else, and why should we be expected to be? To hold us to a different standard than anybody else who judges somebody by the way they look is frustrating because treating us different because we’re gay – in any form – is the exact sort of thing we’re fighting against. Gay people don’t need to change; people need to change.

Not cool, Mr Wavey. Not cool.
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Isn't the video itself pretty hypocritical?...

Looking at the rest of his videos, he is topless most of the time - he is topless because he has a great body and so is trying to get people to click for that. That kind of dampens his point as he WANTS to be clicked based on looks, and then listened to after, however his message is you should listen to someone before judging them based on looks...

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Hm. I'm personally dispositioned to not take him seriously because the next video in the sidebar is a picture of him laying ass-up on a couch in shorts touching his butt that's titled "Straight Guys Need Anal Play, too."

Not particularly the best role model for the gay community if you know what I mean.

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The message is of course good and noble, I just dislike the exclusivity of the group to whom he's preaching it. I think overall he's a good role model in that he's completely open about who he is and has no shame in talking about any and every aspect of homosexuality or sexuality in general (something to which we should all aspire) but with this message... I think if he was going to do an anti-hate message, he could have executed it far better.

Everything about it is accusatory and has this "shame on you" feel to it which I really don't like, simply because he's taking a universal problem, falsely labeling it a gay community problem and then scolding us for it.
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Well, as I said I can't speak for "the gay community," but if there is some level of what he's talking about going on wouldn't it be best if a member of the community said something about it? I guess you'd call that self-policing. It's like if we suddenly got a bunch of nasty members at PC trolling this and other forums we'd want one of us to tell them to stop rather than some outsider who might just paint all of us as troublemakers by association.

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The reason why he directs it to gay people is because the majority of his subscribers are gay. He is just asking his viewers to set an example for how they treat and talk about others. I think that bullying and trash-talking among the LGBT community is a problem. Although there are many other settings and facets of people who treat each other poorly he does not mention, it does not mean his message is a derogatory one. It's like saying that those fundraising to find a cure for cancer are failing to mention the struggle that those with AIDS, HIV, Alzheimer's, heart disease, diabetes, and other health conditions live with, and therefore are not properly advocating for our citizens' health.

Also, because he is shirtless and covers a variety of subjects, it does not necessarily mean that he is not in a position to advocate for treating others with respect, nor does it make him a superficial hypocrite. We don't need to criticize people for when they advocate for camaraderie in the gay community. Progress has got to start from somewhere.

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My first thought was about how smooth his chest is. SO SMOOTH.

On the other hand the idea of accepting the message no matter the packaging makes me think of Rosa Parks. She wasn't the first person to be in a situation like she was and to get in trouble for it, but the reason she became so big was because she was a reliable adult that 'looked right', as opposed to say, Claudette Colvin, the 15 year old girl who did the exact same thing 9 months before her. While it's admirable to judge something on the content of it instead of what surrounds it, other things the same person says, and things such as that, those things do have to be considered if you really want to reach a wider audience. Take the people that are being harsh and judgmental and such; it's going to be hard enough to get through to them even with the perfect spokesperson, because you're telling them to change something about themselves and that's always difficult. It's much more difficult if the person can just pick at the speaker's character, making him into a hypocrite or unreliable or something, then they won't feel the need to listen at all.

Swift: just because someone wants their looks to be appreciated doesn't mean that they necessarily want other looks to be derided. I have curves. I like to wear form-fitting shirts to show off my curves. Does that mean that I think someone who's not curvy should be insulted and treated badly over it? Not at all. You can have a positive body image of yourself without thinking everyone else should be ridiculed for not being perfect.


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