The Rainbow Connection [LGBTS Club] Page 118

Started by Shining Raichu May 22nd, 2011 5:52 AM
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Let's get a new discussion going.

Who are so queer people that you look up to? Who are your inspiration, heroes, idols, or just someone you like?

I was just reading something that mentioned George Takei and I remembered how awesome I think he is. Especially, I loved that video he did when those "Don't Say Gay" laws were being born.

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I love George Takei, I think he's hilarious.

My favourite would have to be the cliche choice of Ellen DeGeneres. She is such a wonderful and beautiful person and helps so many people through her TV show alone. She's also a beacon of hope, since she always has the beautiful Portia de Rossi - her wife - on her arm, and it makes us think that it could be possible for anybody to be that happy. Doesn't hurt that she's also an awesome comedian.

Another one would be Kathy Griffin - she's a straight woman but always jokes that she's an honorary gay man, and I'm happy to give her that. She's like the Queen of the Gays and works hard to keep that title. She's heavily involved in activism and uses her voice wherever possible to try and help us. Also, freaking hilarious. Funniest woman around (on par with Chelsea Handler :P)

Then there's the wonderful Neil Patrick Harris. Dude is just so bro!

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I look up to Neil Patrick Harris and Jim Parsons.

Seriously these two guys are so amazing and fantastic actors! I really enjoy basically anything Neil is in (plus lets face it he is an attractive guy.) Plus he is actually good at magic as well as acting how cool is that! He is a serious bro as well, what beats that?
Jim is just incredible as Sheldon, what more is needed to be said there?

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Weirdly enough I'm not sure if I really look up to any gays/queers. I don't really have a role model though but I do like some of the people you've mention here. (NPH, Ellen, Kathy, etc.) I would say though anyone that's really done any activism and is really out there pushing for equal/civil rights for me. It's something I'm interested in and it's always nice reading about someone doing their best to get things to happen.

Also, to throw out some names that haven't been said. Frank Ocean, Matt Bomer, Dan Savage, and Dustin Lance Black.

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Jim Parsons was just a recent thing, if I remember correctly. It recently came to light that he's been in a relationship with a guy for ten years or something. There was always speculation but it's just recently been confirmed.

He's actually starring with Julia Roberts and Alec Baldwin in a new movie called The Normal Heart which is about a man raising HIV/AIDS awareness in the 80s. Just looking at the subject matter and the cast line-up, I'm really excited to see it!
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Oh man I think Ellen is totally awesome, too! Def a role model :3
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Jim Parsons was just a recent thing, if I remember correctly. It recently came to light that he's been in a relationship with a guy for ten years or something. There was always speculation but it's just recently been confirmed.

He's actually starring with Julia Roberts and Alec Baldwin in a new movie called The Normal Heart which is about a man raising HIV/AIDS awareness in the 80s. Just looking at the subject matter and the cast line-up, I'm really excited to see it!
It's good they're doing a movie about this. I've read that after the 80s we had a lot of awareness about AIDS, but recently we've let that slide and a lot of people aren't aware of or taking it as seriously as they should.

And while I totally support more awareness about HIV/AIDS, I just can't handle watching movies about them so I will pass on this one.
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Uhm... can I join this club? I never came out to anyone, not even online, so... well, I don't really know what to say :\ It's weird...

And to add on to the topic, NPH is awesome, but the person who I look up to is Freddie Mercury. He was a legend in the 70s, even though people knew he was gay. That was hard to accomplish.

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Uhm... can I join this club? I never came out to anyone, not even online, so... well, I don't really know what to say :\ It's weird...

And to add on to the topic, NPH is awesome, but the person who I look up to is Freddie Mercury. He was a legend in the 70s, even though people knew he was gay. That was hard to accomplish.
Hey Alex, welcome! Consider yourself joined up, I shall add you to the list immediately :). Don't be shy, it's weird at first but once you get used to people knowing you become infinitely more comfortable with it. And that's what we're here for anyway!

I actually had no idea Freddie Mercury was gay! That could possibly have more to do with the fact that the most I know about Freddie Mercury is that he has a name that people tend to say a lot. I never bothered to do any research beyond that, though a quick Google search now tells me that he was the lead singer of Queen :P. That's really interesting! You learn something new every day.
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Well, I knew of Freddie Mercury and that he was gay. I just didn't know that he was the lead singer of Queen, that's interesting! This club is keeping me in the loop. Ahaha.

And Welcome, Alex! :) Well, in this club it won't be weird because well most of us can relate to what you're going through.

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Thanks, you all. I really didn't expect so nice replies. I've always thought that people will hate me for being, you know... :\ But I guess coming out isn't that bad, after all :) (Of course, I'd still never come out to anyone in the real world...)

And yeah, a lot of people know the name Freddie Mercury, but not all of them know who he really was xD

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For Andy's next trick he's going tell us all how he doesn't know who David Bowie or Madonna are.

And now for something completely different, I bring you some news from Florida where the Lt. Governor has maybe, perhaps, been caught in some kind of compromising position with one of her female staff and is denying she's a lesbian because "usually black women that look like me don’t engage in relationships like that." Yup. She doesn't look like a lesbian, so clearly she can't be one. But all this is just gossip anyway and I provide it for the sake of keeping the conversation lively.

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Answering Scarf's idol topic a bit late but w.e!!

I look up to Chris Colfer (shock), not because he's gay but because of his talent. As for looking up to a gay icon I guess the general people like Gaga, Madonna etc are there.

On the topic (idk if it died) of idols and such. What straight celebrities do you respect/look up to for being involved in the lgbt community? inb4everyonesayskathyandgaga









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Well, Gaga's not a straight celebrity... :P

I would say Josh Hutcherson/SBNN People, he's basically the main one. He was really great in "The Kids Are All Right"! And that speech that he gave at the GLAAD Awards really just sealed it for me. Wow, I'm really drawing a blank when it's coming to supportive straight celebrities not because there aren't any I just don't pay much attention anymore.

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Answering Scarf's idol topic a bit late but w.e!!

I look up to Chris Colfer (shock), not because he's gay but because of his talent. As for looking up to a gay icon I guess the general people like Gaga, Madonna etc are there.

On the topic (idk if it died) of idols and such. What straight celebrities do you respect/look up to for being involved in the lgbt community? inb4everyonesayskathyandgaga
I think, generally, the actors in Glee are great representations of our generation (give or take 10 years). For example the actor who plays Blaine, who is often asked about it, always seems very graceful and insightful with his answers.

Although I can't really stand Glee, but yes..

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For Andy's next trick he's going tell us all how he doesn't know who David Bowie or Madonna are.

And now for something completely different, I bring you some news from Florida where the Lt. Governor has maybe, perhaps, been caught in some kind of compromising position with one of her female staff and is denying she's a lesbian because "usually black women that look like me don’t engage in relationships like that." Yup. She doesn't look like a lesbian, so clearly she can't be one. But all this is just gossip anyway and I provide it for the sake of keeping the conversation lively.

[read it all here]
LOL.

This is actually really interesting! It's usually the male politicians you find tapping their feet in the men's bathroom to get some service on the down-low, but you never hear about female officials being caught in sex scandals, much less same-sex ones. I realise it's only gossip at this stage, but her reasoning is hilarious lmao. Obviously homosexuality is a white thing. Sorry, Wanda Sykes.

On the topic (idk if it died) of idols and such. What straight celebrities do you respect/look up to for being involved in the lgbt community? inb4everyonesayskathyandgaga
I'm sure there are hundreds of them and I feel really bad that I can't remember them all because they're amazing, but the only ones I can think of are Chelsea Handler, Anne Hathaway and Daniel Radcliffe. Chelsea Handler is kind of like a less extreme version of Kathy Griffin in a gay-idol sort of way, whereas the latter two have both been questioned about homosexuality (Anne has a gay brother and Daniel has been accused of being gay) and both have come out in support of gay rights because of it. I think it's great because they were faced with discrimination and both used it as a way to platform anti-discrimination. Again, I'm sure they're not the only ones who have done this, just the only two that come to mind lol.

Anne even left the Catholic Church once she found out her brother was gay because she did research and found out their stance on the matter.
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Seeing as this is The Rainbow Connection I think it entirely appropriate to bring up some Muppet news.

So after a certain fast food chain CEO publicly denounced gay people we got this message from the Jim Henson Company's facebook page.

The Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over fifty years and we have notified Chick-Fil-A that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors. Lisa Henson, our CEO is personally a strong supporter of gay marriage and has directed us to donate the payment we received from Chick-Fil-A to GLAAD.
(FYI: GLAAD stands for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, which specialized in monitoring the media.)

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Speaking of LGBT related things in the media, the lovely David showed me this disgusting article earlier.

Once again the Daily Mail misgenders left right and centre, calling the lovely Ashlyn a he, yes suprisingly not actually referring to her by her birth name, which I believe is only mentioned once in the whole article! What a shock!
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Speaking of LGBT related things in the media, the lovely David showed me this disgusting article earlier.

Once again the Daily Mail misgenders left right and centre, calling the lovely Ashlyn a he, yes suprisingly not actually referring to her by her birth name, which I believe is only mentioned once in the whole article! What a shock!
I don't really think the important issue here is how they wrote the article- I personally find gender labels extremely confusing when dealing with someone not cisgendered, because people are all different and even, say, a woman who aspires to be a man may want to stick with female pronouns until the change is completely done. Some people prefer gender neutral despite leaning completely towards one gender. Even though it's pretty obvious that Ashlyn most likely prefers female pronouns, the fact that the person who wrote the article used male pronouns is probably harmless (especially considering that they used Ashlyn's new female name)- what really should matter here is the content. Far too often do LGBT supporters get caught up in the symptoms and not the cause of such mistakes.

But moving on, the real problem we should discuss is how disturbingly the people in the school treated Ashlyn. That last part especially killed me- about the teacher that mocked Ashlyn by preforming a "****ty walk?" Ugh. Discrimination is not going to be dealt with at all in schools unless the teachers are fully briefed on how to accept students and allow them to express themselves gender-wise or any other way, for that matter. Ashlyn has plenty more to worry and fuss about without some ass of a teacher treating her poorly.

There should be some kind of special briefing for teachers for all kinds of hate and discrimination to not be tolerated. Race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender expression, all that stuff in full. In my opinion, that "****ty walk" teacher should have more than her wrist slapped. How dare she make fun of a student, especially about such a sensitive topic. Teachers are supposed to help us out with being bullied and made fun of, not join in. Completely unacceptable. She better feel lucky that I'm not her principal.

If we can't get our teachers to be understanding, how can we possibly expect LGBT youth to feel safe? To instill understanding in all/most youth, too? Because hey, if teacher's doing it, you can sure bet students are going to do it ten times worse.

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Suck it, Chick-Fil-A.

And Kawaii, I don't think the article is necessarily that bad; certainly not "disgusting". The misgendering is wrong, of course, but given the article seems to be skewed incredibly in favour of Ashlyn, I think it's more indicative of a mistake or uncertainty of how to proceed than a statement against transgendered people.

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By a full four minutes.

Oh! And in relation to Scarf's little Jim Henson blurb, here's a little Los Angeles Times article about the outlash from the Chick-fil-A comments:

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Apparently, Major of Boston is not prohibiting them from opening in the city he runs. And Chick-Fil-A has obtained a political supporter who declared Aug. 1st "Chick-fil-A Appreciation day."

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There should be some kind of special briefing for teachers for all kinds of hate and discrimination to not be tolerated. Race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender expression, all that stuff in full. In my opinion, that "****ty walk" teacher should have more than her wrist slapped. How dare she make fun of a student, especially about such a sensitive topic. Teachers are supposed to help us out with being bullied and made fun of, not join in. Completely unacceptable. She better feel lucky that I'm not her principal.
I'm not sure if this was just me, but I didn't view the mockery as a trans-targetted thing. I mean that could be done to mock any female who conducted themselves in a very sexual manner.

What I mean is - it might not be right/acceptable, but I don't think the mockery was due to the fact Ashlyn is transgender, and more the way she holds herself.

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I'm not sure if this was just me, but I didn't view the mockery as a trans-targetted thing. I mean that could be done to mock any female who conducted themselves in a very sexual manner.

What I mean is - it might not be right/acceptable, but I don't think the mockery was due to the fact Ashlyn is transgender, and more the way she holds herself.
Good point - I didn't think of that. By the way the article was written, it seemed to me that the teacher did it because Ashlyn was wearing female clothes and making fun of her for "wearing heels" or something like that.

However, in both cases and regardless if the mockery was about how Ashlyn holds herself or the fact she was transgendered- it's never okay to mock a student. You a teacher. This is your job. To make fun of a student regardless of who they are to other students is completely unacceptable and hurtful to the student. You are there to give the students an education and be there for them emotionally if they need it, not to mock and potentially harm their feelings.

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