The Rainbow Connection [LGBTS Club] Page 46

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I kinda have a random hypothetical question for you guys..

What if you had like.. a really close friend. Like a BEST friend, that you told all your secrets to. This friend had known you for years and you had that sort of mutual love for each other. Like a brother/ sister.. someone you can rely on and that you could really trust.
What if you were being honest and came out to them.. and then they told you that they wanted to be honest and had a secret hatred for LGBT and the respective community? And they were unwilling to waiver that feeling- let's say they told you "My feelings on this are as strong as your feelings towards your sexuality."

What would you do?
I don't think the matter would come up too much except with relationships (though relationship privacy is something I and my friend should respect), so we wouldn't really have to bother with being conscious about their hatred. However, if they expressed their dislike of the LGBT community more often (if they did at all before) after the coming out, then they have a serious problem. (They likely would start referencing me in their talks of immorality or something.) I would just plain cut out contact with them until they can get over it enough to respect me like they used to.

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Welcome to our newest member, Physco!!

I kinda have a random hypothetical question for you guys..

What if you had like.. a really close friend. Like a BEST friend, that you told all your secrets to. This friend had known you for years and you had that sort of mutual love for each other. Like a brother/ sister.. someone you can rely on and that you could really trust.
What if you were being honest and came out to them.. and then they told you that they wanted to be honest and had a secret hatred for LGBT and the respective community? And they were unwilling to waiver that feeling- let's say they told you "My feelings on this are as strong as your feelings towards your sexuality."

What would you do?
I would end the friendship. It would be hard, absolutely, but the friendship would be forever changed by the revelation even if the friend managed not to let your sexuality get in the way of their feelings for you as a person. A person is not truly a friend if they don't accept every part of you, and if they are unwilling then there are people out there who will. Who needs a bigot? Nobody, they have no place in society.



Also,



For the gay guys in the group, I have some exciting (yet shallow) news! Zachary Quinto, aka Sylar from Heroes and Spock from the new Star Trek movies, has revealed that he is a gay man! You can read more about it here and immediately begin your fantasies!

/fanboy
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On the topic at hand, I kinda have a family member who I worry will be like this upon me coming out. She is my aunt, and she is always praising e for being such a good kid, so caring, blah blah blah, that I really fear what she will think when I come out, considering she is a very fundamentalist Christian. :| SO, yeah, I kinda understand how it would feel to be in that situation. And if it were a best friend instead of a family member, I would ask them, "Hey, are you willing to still be friends and work this out?" If he/she said yes, then I would remain friends. If they said no, they couldn't accept it at all, I would probably just leave them alone so they wouldn't have to deal with me. :<




Also,



For the gay guys in the group, I have some exciting (yet shallow) news! Zachary Quinto, aka Sylar from Heroes and Spock from the new Star Trek movies, has revealed that he is a gay man! You can read more about it here and immediately begin your fantasies!

/fanboy
:0 Ummm, yeah. That is.....niiiice. xD And on a more serious note, I am glad he decided that he wanted to do this in response to Jamie Rodemeyer's death. It makes it more like a tribute to him, I guess. ^__^

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I kinda have a random hypothetical question for you guys..

What if you had like.. a really close friend. Like a BEST friend, that you told all your secrets to. This friend had known you for years and you had that sort of mutual love for each other. Like a brother/ sister.. someone you can rely on and that you could really trust.
What if you were being honest and came out to them.. and then they told you that they wanted to be honest and had a secret hatred for LGBT and the respective community? And they were unwilling to waiver that feeling- let's say they told you "My feelings on this are as strong as your feelings towards your sexuality."

What would you do?
-Takes a piece of paper and tears it into two pieces-
That's what I would do. If someone doesn't accept every part of me, they don't really love me. So I don't tolerate people like that. :/

On the topic at hand, I kinda have a family member who I worry will be like this upon me coming out. She is my aunt, and she is always praising e for being such a good kid, so caring, blah blah blah, that I really fear what she will think when I come out, considering she is a very fundamentalist Christian. :|
Same, only mine is my grandmother, and she's less religious than she is old and racist.

Except I really wouldn't have a problem with turning my back on her in a moment if she were intolerant like that. Yay for no conscience! :D


Oh, and that's good about Zachary Quinto coming out. :3

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What if you had like.. a really close friend. Like a BEST friend, that you told all your secrets to. This friend had known you for years and you had that sort of mutual love for each other. Like a brother/ sister.. someone you can rely on and that you could really trust.
What if you were being honest and came out to them.. and then they told you that they wanted to be honest and had a secret hatred for LGBT and the respective community? And they were unwilling to waiver that feeling- let's say they told you "My feelings on this are as strong as your feelings towards your sexuality."

What would you do?
I really don't know. I'd likely be angry at them and stop talking to them for a while and hope that they could start to change their views after realizing that their best friend was part of the LGBT community. I know I couldn't be friends with someone with that kind of hatred.

And speaking of the community, I personally don't feel much of a sense of one. All I've ever gotten from random queer people is a kind of "Oh, you are? Okay." Acceptance, of course, but nothing more. I'm still a stranger to them like they're strangers to me. I have my friends who are gay and there's a support group where I sort of know some of the people, but outside that there's no "community" I see except the kind of commercialized community you get at pride events and the like.

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I would end the friendship. It would be hard, absolutely, but the friendship would be forever changed by the revelation even if the friend managed not to let your sexuality get in the way of their feelings for you as a person. Who needs a bigot? Nobody, they have no place in society.
Who says they're a "bigot?" If they never verbally express their views nor show any physical hatred or actions of discrimination towards the Gay Community then it's just simply a strong belief. I said that the hypothetical friend had a SECRET hate for LGBT, but that doesn't mean they would hate you as a person, or your choice to come out. What if all they hated was the over-sexualization of it all because of personal beliefs? For example, the whole "HEY MAN-NIPPLE BANNER! A hot celeb is available!" that you did?
Would you be willing to cut that out when you're around them, or do you still hold true the "I am myself and no one's going to restrict me. They should love all of me" view and drop them?



I dunno.. I just feel that there's too much hate going on. Just because they're not in the whole LGBT thing doesn't mean that LGBT's should hate them and call them names for not supporting them. Especially if those said people never did anything to harm the LGBT community- and it's just personal views that wouldn't get voiced.

Those are my thoughts, you're free to disagree.
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Also,



For the gay guys in the group, I have some exciting (yet shallow) news! Zachary Quinto, aka Sylar from Heroes and Spock from the new Star Trek movies, has revealed that he is a gay man! You can read more about it here and immediately begin your fantasies!

/fanboy
Honestly, it seems like he's been gay all this time. I've never gotten a straight vibe from him. Nice to know though. I used to obsess over Zachary when he was on Heroes. xD

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It would be painful for me, but if they expressed a hatred that strong for the LGBT community as a whole...there isn't a whole lot I could do. Just an attitude like that colors their very choices...so an admission like that would be a dealbreaker for me. It wouldn't matter that they never openly express such a hatred, it would always be a rift between the two of us because we know how the other feels, and I don't think I could tolerate that. I'd end it quick and cleanly, wish him/her a great life and move on.

I don't have any tolerance for the intolerant, and that is probably one of the few things that can stir dislike for a person no matter how strongly I love them. I'm fortunately a live and let live person, and in that case, that's probably the rare instance that I'll actually walk away.

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When I came out to my parents ( I won't get very specific, too painful etc), they were extremely hateful of homosexuals and still are, so it completely tore apart our already strained relationship. Since then, I've only come out to one person in the real world in fear of getting that same reaction. So if they said they were not okay with me being gay, then I'd end that friendship. No point continuing something that will undoubtedly end sooner rather than later because of who I am.

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Would it make me a bigot if I was against black people being able to marry, and I was an avid supporter of taking away black rights (Reguardless of how I treated black people or whether or not there was hatred)?

I would say yes. Those are "opinions" that seek to usurp rights from others based of skin color, race, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation, even though it may not be particularly "hateful".

Bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

It is a prejudice to hold one group to a different standard than another.

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Would it make me a bigot if I was against black people being able to marry, and I was an avid supporter of taking away black rights (Reguardless of how I treated black people)?

I would say yes. Those are "opinions" that seek to usurp rights from others based of skin color, race, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation, even though it may not be particularly "hateful".

Bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.
Actually, it wouldn't. Well, technically we are also bigoted against "traditional marriage". The actual meaning of the word bigot is being set in your ways and devoted to your opinions with underlying hateful causes of those beliefs. Believing that marriage should be between people of the same race does not make you a bigot in its own right, but I'd imagine that most people who hold those views have bigoted intentions.

I always avoid using the term "bigot" anyway. It's rather close-minded to attack someone just because they hold a different opinion than you, no matter how close-minded that opinion may be. If you are the open-minded one, don't stoop down to their level with intolerant attacks.

A person's opinions never make them a bigot by themselves no matter how whacked out they may be. The underlying motivations of those opinions must always be considered. If not, it's just simply using demagoguery to attack someone with a different point of view, similar to how people who oppose affirmative action are labeled as racists or people who oppose the war in Iraq are accused of hating American and wanting the terrorist to win, or how people who are pro-life are labeled as sexists, etc.

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Snip.
I agree with this, and I also agree with some things others say. Yes many times it does lead to "bigot-ed" actions, but not always. I also completely understand Harlequin's point of view and he has my kindest regards. It just sounds so.. rough.. and I know I'm in no place to say that because I am not gay, but I feel I can really empathize and put myself in your shoes.. and sometimes it feels terrible when you know there are people who hate without even knowing you. I really believe in what someone like Trudeau said regarding things in the country; "The government has no place in the bedrooms of its citizens." So whether people secretly hate or not, it shouldn't be their business. But it also shouldn't be your business either. As long as it's not hurting anyone, let people do what they want and believe what they want.

Basically..
I don't think hate should be tolerated, but IMO it shouldn't be rebutted with more hate.
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Basically..
I don't think hate should be tolerated, but IMO it shouldn't be rebutted with more hate.
I like this.
Don't fight fire with fire . . . it's not very effective. -shot-

I can't say that I win my foes over with kindness very often, but I do believe that the stronger our love, the more likely we are to defuse the hate.

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hi hey hello there.........




For the gay guys in the group, I have some exciting (yet shallow) news! Zachary Quinto, aka Sylar from Heroes and Spock from the new Star Trek movies, has revealed that he is a gay man! You can read more about it here and immediately begin your fantasies!

/fanboy
zachary quinto.......... my king.............
it's funny because i fanboy over that man constantly, and people have just come to know me as 'that guy with the weird thing for zq', and on another forum yesterday, i went on to see i had 5 messages or more from people that were super duper surprised and also asking me if i was surprised too?? ... it wasn't particularly hard to figure out! silly people.

ain't as if he's dating a guy or anything
or he's just so flamboyant and also fabulous and pretty much perfect
how can a man that amazing exist how does that happen i...
realises i'm getting emotional about zachary quinto and stops

anyway yes hello :3c




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Well now! Certainly a lot of activity while I was gone lol - but eesh why was such a big deal made out of my simple reply? :S

I guess I'll have to respond lol

Who says they're a "bigot?" If they never verbally express their views nor show any physical hatred or actions of discrimination towards the Gay Community then it's just simply a strong belief. I said that the hypothetical friend had a SECRET hate for LGBT, but that doesn't mean they would hate you as a person, or your choice to come out. What if all they hated was the over-sexualization of it all because of personal beliefs? For example, the whole "HEY MAN-NIPPLE BANNER! A hot celeb is available!" that you did?
Firstly, the banner was for a laugh... then noone did :P /feels stupid

Any hatred for a group of people, expressed or unexpressed, makes somebody a bigot in my eyes. I, for instance, am bigotted against bigots. If I were to be friends with somebody it is a must that they be cool with the LGBT thing because regardless of whether they ever acted upon their hate verbally or otherwise, it would be impossible to be around them knowing they were thinking those thoughts about an intrinsic aspect of who I am.

Would you be willing to cut that out when you're around them, or do you still hold true the "I am myself and no one's going to restrict me. They should love all of me" view and drop them?
For the above-stated reasons, this is exactly why I would drop them and hold true to my views. A friend is somebody around whom you shouldn't have to censor yourself. If I had to watch how I acted for fear of offending them with my homosexuality, then they're not somebody I would ever be comfortable around.

I dunno.. I just feel that there's too much hate going on. Just because they're not in the whole LGBT thing doesn't mean that LGBT's should hate them and call them names for not supporting them. Especially if those said people never did anything to harm the LGBT community- and it's just personal views that wouldn't get voiced.
Yes, those poor bigots, I do feel for them. Perhaps somebody should create a support group? If people are going to be touchy about being called bigots then maybe they should stop being bigots lol

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Would it make me a bigot if I was against black people being able to marry, and I was an avid supporter of taking away black rights (Reguardless of how I treated black people or whether or not there was hatred)?

I would say yes. Those are "opinions" that seek to usurp rights from others based of skin color, race, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation, even though it may not be particularly "hateful".
Essentially this! -ty- and I are of one mind here :).

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Any hatred for a group of people, expressed or unexpressed, makes somebody a bigot in my eyes. I, for instance, am bigotted against bigots. If I were to be friends with somebody it is a must that they be cool with the LGBT thing because regardless of whether they ever acted upon their hate verbally or otherwise, it would be impossible to be around them knowing they were thinking those thoughts about an intrinsic aspect of who I am.
I understand why you would feel that way, but you are wrongfully implying that anybody that holds a view on LGBT issues contrary to yours is a bigot.

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I understand why you would feel that way, but you are wrongfully implying that anybody that holds a view on LGBT issues contrary to yours is a bigot.
It's not about their opinion being different from his--it's about them being hateful. For example (totally made up quotes).

Shining Raichu: "I love gay people. We are very proud and not at all flamboyant. We are only expressing ourselves. There is nothing wrong with that."

Person 1: "I don't really mind gay people, I just really think they're too flamboyant and should chill." ( = not a bigot)

Person 2: "Yeah, I kind of hate gay people. :/" ( = bigot)


Person 2 is not fair-minded. He has a negative opinion particularly of gay people and doesn't have a good reason for it--it's just because they're gay. This makes him a bigot.
Person 1, on the other hand, is not a bigot, although he happens to disagree with Chuu. Person 1 simply sees gays in a different light than Chuu does. He doesn't hate them, though, so he is not a bigot.

#077: Ponyta - The Fire Horse Pokémon
Fire ~ Field eggs
3'03" ~ 66.1lbs ~ 50/50

Its hooves are 10 times harder
than diamonds. It can trample
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Abilities: Run Away or Flash Fire or Flame Body
Moves: Growl, Flame Wheel, Stomp, Agility
Locations: Pokémon Mansion

Cry

Other names:

jp: ポニータ (Ponyta)
de: Ponita
fr: Ponyta
cn: 小火馬 (Xiǎohuǒmǎ)


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I feel like I should amend my response to Kura's question.

If someone had a hatred of the GLBT community because of its politics or pride events or some other outward expression like that then I could understand that to a degree. It definitely has a certain face it puts forward which doesn't represent everyone equally and probably bothers a lot of people. They might not appreciate some in-your-face man-nipples or whatever and that's valid, but I would definitely wonder if they had some kind of underlying hatred of queer people themselves or they were only okay with certain kinds of queer people (like only celibate ones or whatnot). I think it's also valid for me to wonder this and to ask someone to clarify their antagonism to queer groups.

I think the term "bigot" gets used a little too often, but only a little. It's more often people doing or saying bigoted things than just being all-around bigots. Because you have to do something bigoted or you aren't a bigot. So I can agree with Kura and Freaky on that issue in principle. I just can't understand how someone could have a deep hatred and not express it or have it influence their actions or decisions. I mean, if they can then good on them for keeping it in check.

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In my mind there's a difference between people who go out about their lives and just ignore the LGBT community, and the people who outright hate against it. There are people who don't totally agree with the lifestyles, so they just pay it no mind. They don't care for it, but to me they're not bigots. Bigots are the people who show an active hate or dislike, or preach the bible to you by yelling it at your face, and then saying that you're going to burn in hell. Those types of people, and the people who just ignore the LGBT community are totally separate to me.

I've known some people who call both groups of people bigots, but eh..


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I wish there was a different word to use than bigot. How about 'homophobe' which fears/hates gay people? But I don't think that is necessarily satisfactory either to reflect discrimination - it's more of a fear.

Example 1: A person believes that women should not be able to vote.

Example 2: A person believes that same-sex individuals should not be able to marry.

Example 2 is not necessarily fearful or hateful of gay people, so he/she would not be a homophobe purely based off this view. Example 1 emulates a person who could be defined as sexist/misogynist ( reflecting or exhibiting hatred, dislike, mistrust, or mistreatment of women.) The person in example 1 does not trust women and therefore treats them differently. So example 1 and 2 are about at the same degree of intolerance/discrimination, but only one has a word that can reflect that discrimination. I wish there was a word that was similar to misogynist, anti-semite, racist, or any other specific word that emulates "reflecting or exhibiting hatred, dislike, mistrust, or mistreatment of" a specific group.

If there were such a word, it would encompass those who are against gay rights including marriage. What about...sexualitist or gayist? lol

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Okay. Here is the Mirriam Webster definition of "bigot"


bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
So, someone who says "Nah, I don't think gays should be able to get married, but whatever." nonchalantly, wouldn't be a bigot, because there is no hatred or obstinance in his attitude.

On the other hand, if that same person "Well of course those (expletive expletives) shouldn't be able to marry, it's would be (expletive) wrong!" THAT would be bigoted, as there is hatred and obstinance.

So really, bigotry is about the ATTITUDE of the person holding an opinion, NOT about the opinion itself, correct?
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Also, on a lighter note, I had to laugh at something someone said on tumblr after Zanchary Quint's coming out:

"Wait, how can he be the father of my children now that he is gay?" xD While we gay men may now rejoice, lol, I can't help but feel bad for all his female fans. :<

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Okay. Here is the Mirriam Webster definition of "bigot"


So, someone who says "Nah, I don't think gays should be able to get married, but whatever." nonchalantly, wouldn't be a bigot, because there is no hatred or obstinance in his attitude.

On the other hand, if that same person "Well of course those (expletive expletives) shouldn't be able to marry, it's would be (expletive) wrong!" THAT would be bigoted, as there is hatred and obstinance.

So really, bigotry is about the ATTITUDE of the person holding an opinion, NOT about the opinion itself, correct?
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Also, on a lighter note, I had to laugh at something someone said on tumblr after Zanchary Quint's coming out:

"Wait, how can he be the father of my children now that he is gay?" xD While we gay men may now rejoice, lol, I can't help but feel bad for all his female fans. :<
nah, who cares about Zachary, I just want Darren Criss to come out!!!!
But seriously, it was admirable that he came out in response to the recent deaths of gay teens. He felt responsible for not coming out and supporting young teens like Jamey Rodimeyer(sorry about the spelling).

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Oh wow SR. ^5 to you. :D
I feel the same. You summed it up perfectly. There's no room for bigotry of any degree.

If you can't tolerate someone, then you've got no right to expect to be tolerated.
If you didn't notice, I said the same thing:

Basically..
I don't think hate should be tolerated, but IMO it shouldn't be rebutted with more hate.
However, the way you make yourself sound.. is like.. it can go the other way; "if you can't tolerate a bigot, you have no right to be expected to be tolerated." For me, if you try to approach differently, they may come around someday to try and respect you back. If they don't, at least you would be the better person.


I'm just surprised no one here would ask their hypothetical friend "Why do you hate the general LGBT community?" Because, at least for me, if they said something like "I dunno I just do" then you would obviously make a different conclusion than something like "I was attacked and molested when I was a child" or "it's in my faith and I want to do my best to follow my faith without hurting others, that's why I don't express any hate" or "I don't like how some Pride parades are becoming about sex instead of becoming about free love" or even "I hate it because I can't shake the feeling of being uncomfortable around it and I don't like the feeling, so I rather just avoid it."

I don't think you should write someone off as a bigot without understanding their underlying thoughts and reasons why they may hold an opinion.

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Firstly, the banner was for a laugh... then noone did /feels stupid
Haha, yeah I know.. I was just trying to pose my hypothetical question a bit further :3
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