The Rainbow Connection [LGBTS Club] Page 49

Started by Shining Raichu May 22nd, 2011 5:52 AM
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Today a priest listed 5 things that ar always wrong when we vote. Among those is same-sex marriage.
Find a different church to attend. No one's bounding you to that one.. and you're entitled to switch pastors if you found what he said unbearable and you can't get past it. What's the point in bringing it up other than to feed the opposition.
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Hey, if any of my companions here want to join my new Facebook page, feel free! I'll be sharing LGBT-related news periodically.
Lol, I can't legitimately join, at least, not without severely confusing my friends later, lol, but I thank you for creating that page. ^__^

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Find a different church to attend. No one's bounding you to that one.. and you're entitled to switch pastors if you found what he said unbearable and you can't get past it.
I'm Catholic (by choice). My options are limited. I don't see him as a bad person, just misguided. I might speak to him about it, though. Members of the county Republican Party and the local Tea Party know my views on same-sex marriage, and they still respect me even though we disagree.

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Ugh...anyone else been in a relationship with a partner that doesn't deserve you?
Quite the opposite, actually, and I came pretty close to losing him recently. I really think I was taking our relationship for granted - I didn't see that it wasn't going the way he was hoping it would. I wish there was more I could do about it, but I'm naturally just shy and negative and he seems to be giving up on getting me to come out of my shell.

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I'm Catholic (by choice). My options are limited. I don't see him as a bad person, just misguided. I might speak to him about it, though. Members of the county Republican Party and the local Tea Party know my views on same-sex marriage, and they still respect me even though we disagree.
No point to speak about it. He probably draws that from the bible and interprets it literally, and that's his view about it. Sure he knows your view, but you'd be incredibly egotistical to actually think he was directing his entire mass solely at you. If you can get past the fact that he sees it in a different light in order to continue going to mass, then leave it alone. Why pay more mind to differences like that then need be? If he brings it up every time only then would I speak to him and tell him it makes you uncomfortable and you find it unneccessary in an age such as this.
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I have a bit of a juicy question.

Would you ever have sex with your significant other's sibling in order to produce a child with genetic material from both sides of the family?
I guess this question applies to me even though I'm not LGBT..
If my boyfriend couldn't have kids and is brother could; I still wouldn't do it, even if he and his brother consented. I find sex to be an intimate thing that's to be shared with only the one you love.. and so I couldn't bring myself to do that.

There are other ways for it; such as invetro fertilization/ surrogate mothers. It's pricey but at least it wouldn't be an invasion of intimacy/ privacy.

But alas, if I couldn't have a kid with my boyfriend, I'd adopt. DNA doesn't mean much to me.. a mother can be a mother without the kid having to come from my belly. Simple~ :3
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I guess this question applies to me even though I'm not LGBT..
If my boyfriend couldn't have kids and is brother could; I still wouldn't do it, even if he and his brother consented. I find sex to be an intimate thing that's to be shared with only the one you love.. and so I couldn't bring myself to do that.

There are other ways for it; such as invetro fertilization/ surrogate mothers. It's pricey but at least it wouldn't be an invasion of intimacy/ privacy.

But alas, if I couldn't have a kid with my boyfriend, I'd adopt. DNA doesn't mean much to me.. a mother can be a mother without the kid having to come from my belly. Simple~ :3
A surrogate isn't genetically similar to your boyfriend, though. That's the point. It's so the child could have similar genetics.

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I'm Catholic (by choice). My options are limited. I don't see him as a bad person, just misguided. I might speak to him about it, though. Members of the county Republican Party and the local Tea Party know my views on same-sex marriage, and they still respect me even though we disagree.
Not all churches are like that, though. There was maybe one political homily in my Catholic church per year, and even then they didn't talk about same-sex marriage, just about abortion. The views in general won't change when you go from church to church (although they are much more lax than most people tend to think), but how loudly they proclaim them will. Unless you have a very good reason to stay, I wouldn't hesitate to switch churches. When I was in church, I loved every pastor that was there, as well as the community, and I firmly believe that if you don't have that with your church then it's time to move on.


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A surrogate isn't genetically similar to your boyfriend, though. That's the point. It's so the child could have similar genetics.
No, but obviously the child would have my set of genetics, (and possibly the DNA of his brother that way or of another donor) without having to put peepees in unwanted places. ;3
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I have a bit of a juicy question.

Would you ever have sex with your significant other's sibling in order to produce a child with genetic material from both sides of the family?
I thought about it, but I would rather have the zygote fertilized in vitro! haha
I really wouldn't have sex with her, but I would like to have a piece of that DNA, lol.
It would be great have a child that is 50/50 blood quantum between me and my partner.

On the other hand, I know it would be hard on the sibling, as far as carrying and giving birth to the child, and then, having to give up the child as her own. (although she would still have a close relationship with the child) I also think that there are so many children that need to be adopted. I would love to give a child that has very little a great life.

anyone else been in a relationship with a partner that doesn't deserve you?

Yeah! He didn't have a job. He didn't go to school. He was a drug addict. He didn't have any respect for me. I supported him financially and emotionally. The only thing he had was glib charm and sexiness, lmao. Although, I'd have to say that his "performance" abilities were not up to my standards; stop popping pills, and start popping...okay, I won't go there, lmao.

In future, I promised myself I would be extremely selective. You need to have intelligence, degree(degree-seeking), respectfulness, compassion, morality(in the ballpark of what I think is moral), and the handsomeness to top it all off.

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I'm only halfway through and I think this guy is an intensely negative person. :<
I second this; an opinion depends greatly on your outlook, how you perceive failure and mishappens, environment, and want for change. This guy's outlook is just down, down, down.
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Wouldn't have sex with that person, but in-vitro, surrogacy or adoption would be acceptable to me. But I highly doubt that I'd seek to have children if me and my partner couldn't have them...not without being together with that person for a LONG time and being sure the relationship is not only stable but rewarding even after the initial "love at first sight" wears off. But I'm just a careful person in that way, I wouldn't even bear a child with a member of the opposite sex unless I was sure I could take proper responsibility for it.


In reply to the "It doesn't get better" video, how old is this guy? I don't think he looks very old, maybe late twenties at most, so he's in absolutely no position to speak so negatively...especially if he didn't or couldn't find someone supportive to hang on to. It sucks but there are cases where it doesn't get better by much or very fast.

That doesn't invalidate the ideal of "It gets better" though. Not in my opinion.
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What do you guys think of this It Doesn't Get Better video?
That was really quite depressing to watch. I dont know what has happened to him to make him so bitter, but I truly hope I dont end up sounding like him. I mean sure he proved some fair points but I dont think I could be all too happy constantly thinking that way and sharing his outlook.

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Not all churches are like that, though. There was maybe one political homily in my Catholic church per year, and even then they didn't talk about same-sex marriage, just about abortion. The views in general won't change when you go from church to church (although they are much more lax than most people tend to think), but how loudly they proclaim them will. Unless you have a very good reason to stay, I wouldn't hesitate to switch churches. When I was in church, I loved every pastor that was there, as well as the community, and I firmly believe that if you don't have that with your church then it's time to move on.
I agree with this mostly, but I think you're wrong about views not being different from one church to the next. I've been to two churches (the only churches I ever remember being to in my life) where people were shockingly accepting. In the first one, I had a little trouble because everyone there knew me before they knew I was a girl, but in the second one it was really fantastic. I hadn't known anyone that went there, and I only told them my girlname and didn't explain anyone even one single thing, and they were immediate in accepting me and using the right name/pronouns. If they were intolerant and were simply less vocal about it, I would have felt the underlying layer of awkwardness, however I felt none of that with even one single member.

In reply to the "It doesn't get better" video, how old is this guy? I don't think he looks very old, maybe late twenties at most, so he's in absolutely no position to speak so negatively...especially if he didn't or couldn't find someone supportive to hang on to. It sucks but there are cases where it doesn't get better by much or very fast.
I watched it and it was actually less negative than I expected considering how people were talking about it in this thread. I mean, he actually got to a really important point, which I didn't think he would.
I definitely think he's too negative though, not for his age but really for anybody, because in my own very short, very limited experience even for me it has gotten much better, but now that I think of it my perspective has changed just as much, if not more than my actual situation.

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I agree with this mostly, but I think you're wrong about views not being different from one church to the next. I've been to two churches (the only churches I ever remember being to in my life) where people were shockingly accepting. In the first one, I had a little trouble because everyone there knew me before they knew I was a girl, but in the second one it was really fantastic. I hadn't known anyone that went there, and I only told them my girlname and didn't explain anyone even one single thing, and they were immediate in accepting me and using the right name/pronouns. If they were intolerant and were simply less vocal about it, I would have felt the underlying layer of awkwardness, however I felt none of that with even one single member.
By views I mean the doctrines of the church. I don't know if the two churches you went to were of the same denomination, but from one Catholic church to the next they teach to love everyone no matter who they are or their sexuality, it's a blanket belief that covers every Catholic church. Yeah, some people are more tolerant than others and that affects the attitude of the church in general, but the doctrines don't change.


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What do you guys think of this It Doesn't Get Better video?
This was actually kind of fascinating to watch. I didn't know there was any backlash to the It Gets Better campaign except from people who were generally anti-gay already.

A lot of the views this guy has are kind of not specific to queer people. Like he talked about how some people are stuck in rural areas with the same bullies they grew up with, or that only the skinny people can be thought of as pretty. That's the kind of thing that anyone could have to deal with, not just among queer people. I mean, I don't want to validate his whole point, but as far as I looked at it, the It Gets Better message was "High school sucks because you have to go there and once you're done with it you'll have the freedom to make your own choices." I personally never thought the message was a guarantee that life would be all sunshine and roses, just that you'll mature and have more experiences with time and you'll be a stronger person for it. Which I think is a totally cool message to be giving people who maybe feel like high school is all they'll ever know.

But yeah, I'm glad there are views like this guy's. It helps keep people honest if they can address the things dissenters like him bring up. If there is one thing about the gay community which I think needs addressing it's that it's not homogeneous and does have legitimate issues it needs to deal with.

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This was actually kind of fascinating to watch. I didn't know there was any backlash to the It Gets Better campaign except from people who were generally anti-gay already.

A lot of the views this guy has are kind of not specific to queer people. Like he talked about how some people are stuck in rural areas with the same bullies they grew up with, or that only the skinny people can be thought of as pretty. That's the kind of thing that anyone could have to deal with, not just among queer people. I mean, I don't want to validate his whole point, but as far as I looked at it, the It Gets Better message was "High school sucks because you have to go there and once you're done with it you'll have the freedom to make your own choices." I personally never thought the message was a guarantee that life would be all sunshine and roses, just that you'll mature and have more experiences with time and you'll be a stronger person for it. Which I think is a totally cool message to be giving people who maybe feel like high school is all they'll ever know.

But yeah, I'm glad there are views like this guy's. It helps keep people honest if they can address the things dissenters like him bring up. If there is one thing about the gay community which I think needs addressing it's that it's not homogeneous and does have legitimate issues it needs to deal with.
Yeah, I think people raise their expectations too high because they think that everything that is positive automatically lacks serious flaws, and that suffering and happiness are mutually exclusive.
Imperfection is beauty in my opinion. Some stuff sucks, and that's how you tell what's good and fun and happy.



By views I mean the doctrines of the church. I don't know if the two churches you went to were of the same denomination, but from one Catholic church to the next they teach to love everyone no matter who they are or their sexuality, it's a blanket belief that covers every Catholic church. Yeah, some people are more tolerant than others and that affects the attitude of the church in general, but the doctrines don't change.
They were both Lutheran.
Um I think I misinterpreted you at first. xD Sorry. I thought you meant intolerance was a rooted doctrine of the church that can't be completely removed and I disagreed since I know tolerant churches, but I think we agreed in the first place. :3

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What do you guys think of this It Doesn't Get Better video?
Definitely went into this thinking he was going to be one of those self-agonizing gays who've experienced a little bit more than their fair share of discrimination, and have become debbie-downers about being gay in the adult world. However, he brought up a good few points.

Even so, I think his arguments are more geared towards the exceptions and not the majority. I think he had very well thought-out arguments, and yeah, the "it gets better" campaign has somewhat sugar-coated the world for hopeful gay teens. It's not like that. Welcome to the world, children. Whether you're a minority, a woman, queer, handicapped, or different in any way, you're going to face discrimination. It doesn't stop. What does change is that you'll have better tools in which to remedy your issues with discrimination in the future. Not only will you obtain freedom to escape your possible hostile surroundings for that of a more comfortable locale, but you gain the strength to endure what people throw at you. Don't get me wrong, it's still going to hurt, but grab a gallon of ice cream and begin the healing process.

His viewpoints on the gay community are pretty spot on. While I think even his own arguments proves that there is, albeit minimally, a community to speak of... we're far from tight-knit. We police each other and judge, and when we do actually come together, it's for something camp... only really giving the heterosexual majority more reason to further ostracize us. The truth is, we're individuals, and while having a common interest in being "different" in regards to our sexuality or gender/sexual identities may bring us "together," saying we are one is grossly overgeneralizing. However, as he put it, to be considered one of the "cool gay kids" you have to look a certain way, dress a certain way, and do certain things. This does give our community a stereotype in which to follow. Good or bad, we have a face for homosexuality. I'll admit, I fall right into nearly all of those... and continue to conform, or, um, not conform in some cases... which in itself is conforming anyway. -shrugs- I think sometimes we all do things to gain social acceptance, even to a certain degree. If you didn't, stop speaking English. You're conforming to get along in our society. See what I did there?

I think sometimes we just get swept up in our rally to make our lives as queer individuals more accepted that we forget the logic behind it. We immediately turn on those that have a differing opinion to current issues like gay marriage or, in this case, disagree with a campaign aimed at helping gay teens feel better about themselves. Perhaps we should look at what they're really saying before jumping to conclusions. Chances are good they're not disagreeing with the cause, they're disagreeing with the implementation.

/end opinion

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Ugh OK I was so busy with birthday stuff yesterday that I never made it to LGBT Club, despite being online most of the day lol. So, ALLOW ME TO CATCH UP.

Would you ever have sex with your significant other's sibling in order to produce a child with genetic material from both sides of the family?

Uh... no. I... don't think I could. I've never heard of this being a thing. On Will & Grace once, they wanted to have a baby together and rather than waiting a whole month for IVF treatment they decided to have sex... which in the end they couldn't go through with because they were best friends. Honestly, I don't think I would ever be able to have sex with a woman, even if it were cold and mechanical for the purpose of reproduction. Also, I hate kids and don't want them lol.


Now, onto that video. Is it wrong that I actively can't stand that guy? He bugged the living hell out of me for the entire eleven minutes. In that entire time, there was only one argument that I could agree with - and that was the "It Gets Better" campaign's implication that the solution lies in the future and you should therefore just wait it out and do nothing. That actually struck me as something I hadn't thought of before. Other than that, I think he was just an angry little man who's given into cynicism and is using that to give unnecessary opposition to a campaign that is designed to stop people from killing themselves. I think the fact that he made that video, when you consider that potentially suicidal teens may be exposed to it, is absolutely terrible and is an example of exercising freedom of speech for the sake of it.
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Can't watch any videos right now. ;.;

Would you ever have sex with your significant other's sibling in order to produce a child with genetic material from both sides of the family?

Honestly, I don't think I would ever be able to have sex with a woman, even if it were cold and mechanical for the purpose of reproduction. Also, I hate kids and don't want them lol.
Pretty much that, except flip it a bit. I don't think I could ever have sex with a guy. XD; It sounds completely unappealing. Sex in general doesn't interest me much with my whole semi-asexual thing going on, but especially not with a guy. On the really really rare chance that I would fall for a guy, there's an even rarer chance that I'd have sex with him. That would have to be a lot of love, and even then it might not happen. Sooooo, even if it were for the sake of having a child, I doubt I could do it. I'd rather donate eggs and have someone carry a child for me, because I have no want for that in any way. >__>


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