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Old August 13th, 2011 (8:47 AM).
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What about a Calm Mind set?
name: Calm Mind
move 1: Pain Split
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Calm Mind
move 4: Ice Beam
nature: Impish
item: Eviolite
evs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 SpD
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Old August 13th, 2011 (9:00 AM).
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A calm mind set with Dusclops would not work very well,you already have a very mediocre base 60 Special Attack, then you have an Impish nature, which farther reduces it. You would be better off using it for a defensive role and not an attacking role.
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Old August 14th, 2011 (10:11 AM).
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    Quick question for you competitive battlers.

    I am wanting to try to get a Mew somehow, and I was wondering on what the best nature to go for. I was thinking Modest to make it into a Special Sweeper.

    Mew @ Leftovers/Expert Belt/Life Orb
    Modest Nature
    252 Spec.Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Spec.Defense

    Psychic --- Main STAB move
    Aura Sphere --- Takes care of the Dark Types
    Roost --- Restores HP when it's weak
    Shadow Ball --- Takes care of rival Psychic types

    I don't have Mew yet, just wondering if that would be a good moveset when I do get one.
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    Old August 14th, 2011 (11:47 AM).
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    The preferred nature on offensive mew is Timid, it lets you outspeed positive base 90's and 95's. Iirc the standard offensive Mew is Nasty Polt so I'll just give you that set.

    name: Nasty Plot
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Psyshock / Psychic
    move 3: Aura Sphere
    move 4: Fire Blast / Shadow Ball
    item: Life Orb / Leftovers
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    Hope it helps.
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    Old August 17th, 2011 (10:33 AM). Edited August 17th, 2011 by Lati-Fan95.
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      Hey, it´s me again! Maybe you remember me from my last Sigilyph set? Don´t? Oh well! I´m having another moveset from a pokemon that caught my interest! This time, it´s...

      ...Klinklang!
      Level: 100
      Trait: Minus (I know Clear Body would be better but the DW part where you can befriend Pokemon doesn´t work on my PC!)
      Item: Leftovers/Chesto Berry/Air Balloon?
      Nature: careful
      EVs: 126 HP, 252 Def, 130 speed

      -Gear Saucer
      -Volt Switch/Rest
      -Protect/Substitute
      -Toxic

      I chose a careful nature because I prefer Gear Saucer over Flash Cannon and if I should run both Volt Switch and Gear Saucer, I don´t want an attack or Sp.Atk-ruining nature to get in the way! Well, Gear Saucer is STAB, Volt Switch to escape possible slower counters and to dish out some damage. And Protect + Toxic to slowly kill the opponent while Gear Saucing him to death to support the toxic!
      The other idea: I ditch Volt Switch and Protect for Substitute and Rest to make Klinklang last a little longer! To get rid of the disadvantage of rest once, I went for a Chesto Berry! But LeftieSub is pretty neat, too... The main strategy is still the same as above (as probably 99,99% of you figured!) !
      As an alternative item, Air Balloon is an okay option to counter Ground types and sudden EQs so I thought it might be a neat thing to use... But it´s pretty unlikely to be ever used by me, just thought I´d give it an honorable mention!
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      Old August 17th, 2011 (11:10 AM).
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      Hey, it´s me again!^^ Maybe you remember me from my last Sigilyph set?^^ Don´t? Oh well!^^ I´m having another moveset from a pokemon that caught my interest!^^ This time, it´s...

      ...Klinklang!^^
      Level: 100
      Trait: Minus (I know Clear Body would be better but the DW part where you can befriend Pokemon doesn´t work on my PC!^^)
      Item: Leftovers/Chesto Berry/Air Balloon?
      Nature: careful
      EVs: 126 HP, 252 Def, 130 speed

      -Gear Saucer
      -Volt Switch/Rest
      -Protect/Substitute
      -Toxic

      I chose a careful nature because I prefer Gear Saucer over Flash Cannon and if I should run both Volt Switch and Gear Saucer, I don´t want an attack or Sp.Atk-ruining nature to get in the way!^^ Well, Gear Saucer is STAB, Volt Switch to escape possible slower counters and to dish out some damage. And Protect + Toxic to slowly kill the opponent while Gear Saucing him to death to support the toxic!^^
      The other idea: I ditch Volt Switch and Protect for Substitute and Rest to make Klinklang last a little longer!^^ To get rid of the disadvantage of rest once, I went for a Chesto Berry!^^ But LeftieSub is pretty neat, too...^^ The main strategy is still the same as above (as probably 99,99% of you figured!^^) !^^
      As an alternative item, Air Balloon is an okay option to counter Ground types and sudden EQs so I thought it might be a neat thing to use...^^ But it´s pretty unlikely to be ever used by me, just thought I´d give it an honorable mention!^^
      Klinklang has access to one of the best sweeping moves in the game, so you should probably use it, Careful isn't the best nature for Klinklang, as it's best niche is as a bulky sweeper.


      Try this:

      Klinklang @ Leftovers
      252 HP/176 Attack/80 Speed
      Adamant Nature/Minus or Plus
      -Shift Gear
      -Gear Grind
      -Return/Frustration [at Max Friendship or Hate]
      -Substitute/Rock Smash
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      Old August 18th, 2011 (8:42 AM).
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        i have a sassy politoed with hp grass what can i do with it
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        Old August 18th, 2011 (10:00 AM).
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        Is Chansey holding Eviolite better then Blissey?
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        Old August 18th, 2011 (10:21 AM).
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        i have a sassy politoed with hp grass what can i do with it
        Politoed@ Chesto Berry
        252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Sp.Def
        Sassy Nature
        Trait : Drizzle
        - Rest
        - Scald
        - Toxic / Hypnosis / Ice Beam
        - Perish Song / Ice Beam

        Standard defensive Toed. Keep coming in and changing weather. Chesto Rest off the damage when you are low and annoy your opponent with weather wars for longer. Scald to burn stuff. 3rd + 4th slot is up to you. Status, Ice Beam for Dragons or Perish Song to crush Baton Pass chains.

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        Is Chansey holding Eviolite better then Blissey?
        Not really. Chansey is just so easy to wear down without lefties (sup sand and sr) recovery. Chansey is one of the best mixed walls in the game, but still not as useful as Blissey imo.
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        Old August 20th, 2011 (9:28 PM).
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        Even though I know that Magic Guard should be the viable ability for Sigilyph, what merit does Wonder Skin have? Halving the accuracy of status moves targeting Sigilyph sounds like a good deal (correct me if I'm wrong)
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        Old August 20th, 2011 (11:24 PM).
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        I honestly wouldn't see the point. Apart from the affirmated sleep move (Spore, Sleep Powder etc.) it wouldn't really hold any merit against Wonder Guard since that would stop burn and poison affecting it altogether. It's already quite decent against Pokemon like Breloom and Amoonguss which carry Spore anyway, so it's up to you. I'd prefer Magic Guard myself, but it depends on if you can handle Spore users.
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        Old August 21st, 2011 (8:40 AM).
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        Well Magic Guard allows you to hold Flame Orb if you so desire without any drawbacks with Magic Guard, essentially preventing status entirely, and allowing you to abuse Psycho Shift.
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        Old August 21st, 2011 (3:50 PM).
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          i have a question and idk if it belongs on this thread but ima ask anyways...

          how do you check for IVs and what are they... (in depth)
          i tried the serebii website but couldnt figure it out.
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            Any recommendations for a Butterfree moveset? I don't have any great ideas for a held item. My Butterfree has Tinted Lenses (Dream World) and a Sassy nature (Sp. Def. +, Speed - I believe). I'm 99.9% sure I want Sleep Powder, but the rest I'm not sure about. Years ago before B&W came out, I was recommend I add Dream Eater/Psychic, Supersonic, and Whirlwind/Attract (thinking of using Attract), but I think things are different now that it doesn't have the increased accuracy of Compound Eyes. I also think it has some Bug-type moves that look appealing, and that's very tempting especially with STAB.
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            Old August 22nd, 2011 (5:16 PM).
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              is it true that if you breed with 2 ditters they make a randem pokermern?
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              Old August 22nd, 2011 (7:51 PM).
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                Any recommendations for a Butterfree moveset? I don't have any great ideas for a held item. My Butterfree has Tinted Lenses (Dream World) and a Sassy nature (Sp. Def. +, Speed - I believe). I'm 99.9% sure I want Sleep Powder, but the rest I'm not sure about. Years ago before B&W came out, I was recommend I add Dream Eater/Psychic, Supersonic, and Whirlwind/Attract (thinking of using Attract), but I think things are different now that it doesn't have the increased accuracy of Compound Eyes. I also think it has some Bug-type moves that look appealing, and that's very tempting especially with STAB.
                i was thinking about adding butterfree to my team as well. glad you brought it up.

                i was thinking for mine...

                timid butterfree with compound eyes.

                sleep powder
                u turn/bug buzz
                physic
                safeguard/protect. thats just me though. i havnt decided yet.
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                is it true that if you breed with 2 ditters they make a randem pokermern?
                Nope. You don't get anything by breeding 2 Ditto
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                Any recommendations for a Butterfree moveset? I don't have any great ideas for a held item. My Butterfree has Tinted Lenses (Dream World) and a Sassy nature (Sp. Def. +, Speed - I believe). I'm 99.9% sure I want Sleep Powder, but the rest I'm not sure about. Years ago before B&W came out, I was recommend I add Dream Eater/Psychic, Supersonic, and Whirlwind/Attract (thinking of using Attract), but I think things are different now that it doesn't have the increased accuracy of Compound Eyes. I also think it has some Bug-type moves that look appealing, and that's very tempting especially with STAB.
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                i was thinking about adding butterfree to my team as well. glad you brought it up.

                i was thinking for mine...

                timid butterfree with compound eyes.

                sleep powder
                u turn/bug buzz
                physic
                safeguard/protect. thats just me though. i havnt decided yet.
                For the DW Butterfree set, I'd use this, but it's outclassed by Venomoth to an extent:
                -Sleep Powder
                -Quiver Dance
                -Bug Buzz
                -Psychic/Hidden Power (Ground/Fire)
                Nature: Timid
                EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
                Item: Focus Sash
                Ability: Tinted Lens

                As for regular Butterfree, using accurate Stun Spores and Sleep Powders is Butterfree's main niche, so try this out. It's not meant to cause damage right off the bat, but it's meant to support your team with status while annoying your opponent at the same time:
                -Sleep Powder
                -Stun Spore
                -U-turn
                -Bug Buzz
                Nature: Timid
                EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
                Item: Choice Scarf
                Ability: CompoundEyes
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                  Would anyone care to give me the EV's for a Wish/Protect Salamence? I'm too lazy to look it up on Smogon.
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                  Old August 23rd, 2011 (7:34 PM). Edited August 23rd, 2011 by 7Mufasa7.
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                    idk it but shouldnt it be hp/spd and 4 on def?

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                      Ah, thanks guys. I've actually wanted to try this out since Gen 4, but I think that it would preform better in this meta anyways. Thanks again.
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                      Old August 24th, 2011 (8:16 AM).
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                      Roost is better than Protect. Salamence cant afford to run Protect with Stealth Rock everywhere, so the instant healing is really useful.
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                      I just got a flawless Jolly Skorupi and I need advice on a viable set for it ^_^
                      Well, Skorupi isn't an offensive Pokemon so Jolly goes to waist on it. Impish is the nature it needs because it is meant to be a physical wall, of sorts.
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                      Old August 24th, 2011 (3:37 PM).
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                      You could use SD

                      Drapion @ Life Orb
                      252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
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                      Only use it in the lower tiers though or its outclassed. Or you could slap a CB on it and use Pursuit over SD, up to you.
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