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Old January 18th, 2012 (4:31 PM).
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    I'm going to make a Sand Storm team, BW OU tier.

    I've decided on using a Tyranitar with Superpower, Crunch, Fire Blast & Ice Beam. Don't remember the EVs, but I can VERY easily look up Smogon.

    Also, I'll have Reuniclus for obivious reasons, thinking about the Calm Mind set.

    Now, I'm wondering what Stealth Rock user to have...

    I already have a Metagross that's fully trained with Stealth Rock, Bullet Punch, Meteor Mash & Earthquake, but it's a strategy from Smogon in the 4th generation... not sure it'd hold up...

    & I was wondering if it'd be a good idea to have Hippowdon, who also can use Stealth Rock... It'd make it easier to set up/keep my Sand Storm going against other weather teams & make it harder for them to take away my weather advantage... But if Hippowdon & Tyranitar has problems against the same pokemon, this strategy isn't worth a hill of beans...

    Suggestions for a better Stealth Rock user would be VERY nice...

    I'm still deciding between Forretress (for Toxic Spikes) & Ferrothorn... (whom, if I got it right, counters any water type without fire or fighting attacks.)

    For my Sand Sweeper, Landorus looks appealing, but I'd like to hear the ups & downs of it compared to Terrakion... Are there others that can be considered Sand sweepers? (I think Lucario may be one...)
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    Old January 18th, 2012 (5:09 PM).
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stoney the Togekiss View Post
    I'm going to make a Sand Storm team, BW OU tier.

    I've decided on using a Tyranitar with Superpower, Crunch, Fire Blast & Ice Beam. Don't remember the EVs, but I can VERY easily look up Smogon.

    Also, I'll have Reuniclus for obivious reasons, thinking about the Calm Mind set.

    Now, I'm wondering what Stealth Rock user to have...

    I already have a Metagross that's fully trained with Stealth Rock, Bullet Punch, Meteor Mash & Earthquake, but it's a strategy from Smogon in the 4th generation... not sure it'd hold up...

    & I was wondering if it'd be a good idea to have Hippowdon, who also can use Stealth Rock... It'd make it easier to set up/keep my Sand Storm going against other weather teams & make it harder for them to take away my weather advantage... But if Hippowdon & Tyranitar has problems against the same pokemon, this strategy isn't worth a hill of beans...

    Suggestions for a better Stealth Rock user would be VERY nice...

    I'm still deciding between Forretress (for Toxic Spikes) & Ferrothorn... (whom, if I got it right, counters any water type without fire or fighting attacks.)

    For my Sand Sweeper, Landorus looks appealing, but I'd like to hear the ups & downs of it compared to Terrakion... Are there others that can be considered Sand sweepers? (I think Lucario may be one...)
    Just so you're not crowded with team slots, you'll have to make do with Tyranitar as your Stealth Rocker.

    Just by looking at what you have, your team isn't very vulnerable to hazards (bar 3 layers of Spikes). I'd say go with Ferrothorn because of its ability to counter bulky Waters. You already have Reuniclus to cover your Fighting weakness. To be safe against Fighting Pokemon, maybe you can go with Landorus.

    In short, your team will be:
    -Tyranitar
    -Reuniclus
    -Ferrothorn
    -Landorus
    -Metagross (use the Agility set)
    -(whatever you want)
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    Old January 18th, 2012 (8:30 PM). Edited January 18th, 2012 by .Gamer.
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    So I came across this set in DPP in an albeit gimmicky team, but Gallade is a lot better now and I was wondering your thoughts on this:

    Gallade @ Choice Scarf
    252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Jolly or Adamant (most likely Jolly)
    Trick
    Swords Dance
    Close Combat
    Filler move, Night Slash / Shadow Sneak, something to provide coverage.

    edit, the basic idea behind it is that you trick something that comes in on it, lets say spiritomb and then you set up a free (or pretty dang close to free) swords dance and attack. obviously based on whatever filler move you use you need to adjust your team around support, but in theory it might work.
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    Old January 18th, 2012 (8:57 PM). Edited January 18th, 2012 by Musica.
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      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Stoney the Togekiss View Post
      I'm going to make a Sand Storm team, BW OU tier.

      I've decided on using a Tyranitar with Superpower, Crunch, Fire Blast & Ice Beam. Don't remember the EVs, but I can VERY easily look up Smogon.

      Also, I'll have Reuniclus for obivious reasons, thinking about the Calm Mind set.

      Now, I'm wondering what Stealth Rock user to have...

      I already have a Metagross that's fully trained with Stealth Rock, Bullet Punch, Meteor Mash & Earthquake, but it's a strategy from Smogon in the 4th generation... not sure it'd hold up...

      & I was wondering if it'd be a good idea to have Hippowdon, who also can use Stealth Rock... It'd make it easier to set up/keep my Sand Storm going against other weather teams & make it harder for them to take away my weather advantage... But if Hippowdon & Tyranitar has problems against the same pokemon, this strategy isn't worth a hill of beans...

      Suggestions for a better Stealth Rock user would be VERY nice...

      I'm still deciding between Forretress (for Toxic Spikes) & Ferrothorn... (whom, if I got it right, counters any water type without fire or fighting attacks.)

      For my Sand Sweeper, Landorus looks appealing, but I'd like to hear the ups & downs of it compared to Terrakion... Are there others that can be considered Sand sweepers? (I think Lucario may be one...)
      Terrakion still has 2x Fighting weakness, same goes with Lucario. You're gonna be better off with Landorus since it gets a lot of help from Ferrothorn (to cover up 2x weakness) and Metagross (covering up 4x Ice weakness).

      Ferrothorn is good since it can counter bulky water types, Forry is nice but doesn't really kill anything. (It can kill Ghosts with Payback though)

      Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
      Sassy (Sassy because it fears Fireblast/Flamethrower) 0 IV on Speed too
      252 HP 88 Def 168 SpDef
      ~Power Whip
      ~Gyro Ball
      ~Leech Seed
      ~Protect / Thunder Wave

      You get SR set-up by TTar, so you narrow down your 4th move to Protect and T-Wave. Protect if you want to scout, T-Wave to cripple opponent's Pokemons.

      Metagross can be use Agility or be a revenge killer.

      Metagross @ Choice Scarf
      Adamant/Jolly
      252 Attack 252 Speed 4 Def
      ~EQ
      ~Meteor Mash
      ~Thunderpunch
      ~Zen Headbutt/Explosion/Trick/Hammer Arm* (if you want it to cover Air Balloon users)


      Metagross @ Air Balloon
      Jolly
      52 HP 252 Attack 204 Speed
      ~Agility
      ~EQ
      ~Meteor Mash
      ~Thunder Punch / Zen Headbutt / Hammer Arm*

      *Though Metagross will get -1 Speed from Hammer Arm, it is likely to switch out after the KO.

      As suggested by Platinum Dude

      -Tyranitar
      -Reuniclus
      -Ferrothorn
      -Landorus
      -Metagross

      You can have an Electric / Dragon / Bulky Water on your 6th. Electric Pokemon can counter Flying types such as Skarmory. You can opt to use Magnezone with Magnet Pull to just get rid of Skarmory or other Steel types like, CB Scizor, Forretress, Ferrothorn, etc.

      Magnezone @ Leftovers / Choice Specs <-- since you're just going to kill, Choice Specs is better used. LO is just for recovery.
      Modest
      148 HP 252 SpAttack 108 Speed
      ~Thunderbolt
      ~Hidden Power Fire
      ~Flash Cannon
      ~Volt Switch
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      Old January 19th, 2012 (12:06 PM).
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        WOW!!!
        I got a LOT more help from you 2 than I did on Bulbagarden!
        (I'm General Volcano there, by the way.)

        I was wondering if Heatran had a place on my team... Any advantages over Metagross? (both can use Stealth Rock, as I recall... but I see where setting up Stealth Rock & Sandstorm at once makes things simpler... but I also recall Smogon saying It'd like to have those 4 moves for max coverage...)

        Hmm... Electric, Dragon or Bulky Water...

        The electric type I really like is Galvantula, but while it can be used in OU, I'm not sure it's that good... (Too bad Game Freak didn't give it a Sp.Atk stat of at least 105...) If someone can, can they PM me on how to make sure Magnezone gets base 70 powered HP Fire? & how to make sure Ferrothorn has 0 Speed IVs?

        There are 2 Dragons I'm interested in:
        Haxorus:
        For it's sheer power, since Landorus is my speedy sweeper, X can be my Wall Breaker, using a Sword Dance set.

        Hydreigon:
        It got pretty good stats overall & I'm thinking maybe my team could use a special threat...

        If I use a Bulky Water, I'd like to use my favorite water Pokemon, Milotic.
        I have one with Rest, Sleep Talk, Surf (can be replaced with Scald) & Dragon Tail. It has the EVs from the DPPt Resttalk set, not sure if that's the same as the BW resttalk set...
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        Old January 27th, 2012 (3:54 PM).
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          Hey everyone. I'm not really a competitive battler, but I want to make a team just so that if I want to enter a tournament or something I'll have somewhat of a chance. I haven't started assembling it yet because I want to know what I need before I begin. So far I'm thinking something like: Wobbufet Heracross Claydol Aerodactyl Snorlax Absol I would like some ideas on movesets, EVs, natures and items. Thanks.
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          Old January 28th, 2012 (12:55 PM).
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          Okay so, I have a question about the ability Guts. Being burned while having Guts ability, does the status still affect the att stat in the same way or is that cancelled out by the ability? I always see people using a Toxic orb @ Guts so I was wondering.
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          Okay so, I have a question about the ability Guts. Being burned while having Guts ability, does the status still affect the att stat in the same way or is that cancelled out by the ability? I always see people using a Toxic orb @ Guts so I was wondering.
          Its cancelled out and gives you a 50% boost so essentially a free +1 i.e a CB boost without being locked in lol.
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            Hello! This may seem a little over the top, but I thought I'd give it a shot. I want to competitively battle, which I haven't gotten into very seriously in the past, but I need some help building the team. I know all of the basics of competitive battling, obviously, I just need to have a team planned out so I can get started.

            My philosophy with competitive battling is to use the Pokemon that I LIKE, not that I think are "the best". This is a comprehensive list of all the Pokemon that I like, and I just need to pick the ones I'm gonna use on my team.

            What I'd like to do is have you select the six Pokemon from the list that I could use as a team. If possible, I'd like the moveset, nature, ability, and EVs shown along with them, but I don't necessarily need that, mind you. I don't actually expect this thread to do too well since I doubt people would want to take this much time to sift through all these Pokemon to help me make a team, but eh, I thought I'd give it a shot. As far as I know, no one as done anything like this before.

            =========================================================


            =====
            Normal
            =====

            Clefable
            Wigglytuff
            Snorlax
            Noctowl
            Granbull
            Ursaring
            Miltank
            Slaking
            Porygon-Z

            =====
            Fire
            =====

            Ninetales
            Arcanine
            Magmortar
            Chandelure

            =====
            Water
            =====

            Blastoise
            Tentacruel
            Slowbro
            Cloyster
            Seaking
            Starmie
            Lapras
            Omastar
            Kabutops
            Feraligatr
            Azumarill
            Politoed
            Slowking
            Octillery
            Swampert
            Ludicolo
            Whiscash
            Crawdaunt
            Milotic
            Walrein
            Huntail
            Seismitoad

            =====
            Grass
            =====

            Vileplume
            Parasect
            Victreebel
            Jumpluff
            Sunflora
            Sceptile
            Ludicolo
            Shiftry
            Breloom
            Serperior
            Simisage
            Whimsicott
            Ferrothorn

            =====
            Poison
            =====

            Vileplume
            Victreebel
            Tentacruel
            Gengar
            Weezing
            Crobat
            Swalot

            =====
            Bug
            =====

            Parasect
            Forretress
            Shuckle
            Masquerain
            Crustle
            Escavalier

            =====
            Fighting
            =====

            Breloom
            Hariyama
            Gallade
            Scrafty

            =====
            Rock
            =====

            Omastar
            Kabutops
            Sudowoodo
            Shuckle
            Aggron
            Gigalith
            Crustle
            Archeops

            =====
            Dark
            =====

            Shiftry
            Crawdaunt
            Krookodile
            Scrafty

            =====
            Psychic
            =====

            Slowbro
            Hypno
            Starmie
            Xatu
            Slowking
            Grumpig
            Claydol
            Metagross
            Gallade
            Musharna
            Reuniclus
            Beheeyem

            =====
            Ghost
            =====

            Gengar
            Drifblim
            Chandelure
            Golurk

            =====
            Dragon
            =====

            Flygon
            Altaria

            =====
            Ground
            =====

            Piloswine
            Swampert
            Flygon
            Whiscash
            Claydol
            Excadrill
            Seismitoad
            Krookodile
            Golurk

            =====
            Steel
            =====

            Forretress
            Aggron
            Metagross
            Excadrill
            Escavalier
            Ferrothorn

            =====
            Flying
            =====

            Noctowl
            Crobat
            Xatu
            Jumpluff
            Masquerain
            Altaria
            Drifblim
            Archeops

            =====
            Ice
            =====

            Cloyster
            Lapras
            Piloswine
            Glalie
            Walrein

            =====
            Electric
            =====

            Ampharos
            Manectric
            Eelektross

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            Also, I think I know my favorite Pokemon types after typing up this list...
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            Hello! This may seem a little over the top, but I thought I'd give it a shot. I want to competitively battle, which I haven't gotten into very seriously in the past, but I need some help building the team. I know all of the basics of competitive battling, obviously, I just need to have a team planned out so I can get started.

            My philosophy with competitive battling is to use the Pokemon that I LIKE, not that I think are "the best". This is a comprehensive list of all the Pokemon that I like, and I just need to pick the ones I'm gonna use on my team.

            What I'd like to do is have you select the six Pokemon from the list that I could use as a team. If possible, I'd like the moveset, nature, ability, and EVs shown along with them, but I don't necessarily need that, mind you. I don't actually expect this thread to do too well since I doubt people would want to take this much time to sift through all these Pokemon to help me make a team, but eh, I thought I'd give it a shot. As far as I know, no one as done anything like this before.

            =========================================================


            =====
            Normal
            =====

            Clefable
            Wigglytuff
            Snorlax
            Noctowl
            Granbull
            Ursaring
            Miltank
            Slaking
            Porygon-Z

            =====
            Fire
            =====

            Ninetales
            Arcanine
            Magmortar
            Chandelure

            =====
            Water
            =====

            Blastoise
            Tentacruel
            Slowbro
            Cloyster
            Seaking
            Starmie
            Lapras
            Omastar
            Kabutops
            Feraligatr
            Azumarill
            Politoed
            Slowking
            Octillery
            Swampert
            Ludicolo
            Whiscash
            Crawdaunt
            Milotic
            Walrein
            Huntail
            Seismitoad

            =====
            Grass
            =====

            Vileplume
            Parasect
            Victreebel
            Jumpluff
            Sunflora
            Sceptile
            Ludicolo
            Shiftry
            Breloom
            Serperior
            Simisage
            Whimsicott
            Ferrothorn

            =====
            Poison
            =====

            Vileplume
            Victreebel
            Tentacruel
            Gengar
            Weezing
            Crobat
            Swalot

            =====
            Bug
            =====

            Parasect
            Forretress
            Shuckle
            Masquerain
            Crustle
            Escavalier

            =====
            Fighting
            =====

            Breloom
            Hariyama
            Gallade
            Scrafty

            =====
            Rock
            =====

            Omastar
            Kabutops
            Sudowoodo
            Shuckle
            Aggron
            Gigalith
            Crustle
            Archeops

            =====
            Dark
            =====

            Shiftry
            Crawdaunt
            Krookodile
            Scrafty

            =====
            Psychic
            =====

            Slowbro
            Hypno
            Starmie
            Xatu
            Slowking
            Grumpig
            Claydol
            Metagross
            Gallade
            Musharna
            Reuniclus
            Beheeyem

            =====
            Ghost
            =====

            Gengar
            Drifblim
            Chandelure
            Golurk

            =====
            Dragon
            =====

            Flygon
            Altaria

            =====
            Ground
            =====

            Piloswine
            Swampert
            Flygon
            Whiscash
            Claydol
            Excadrill
            Seismitoad
            Krookodile
            Golurk

            =====
            Steel
            =====

            Forretress
            Aggron
            Metagross
            Excadrill
            Escavalier
            Ferrothorn

            =====
            Flying
            =====

            Noctowl
            Crobat
            Xatu
            Jumpluff
            Masquerain
            Altaria
            Drifblim
            Archeops

            =====
            Ice
            =====

            Cloyster
            Lapras
            Piloswine
            Glalie
            Walrein

            =====
            Electric
            =====

            Ampharos
            Manectric
            Eelektross

            =========================================================


            Also, I think I know my favorite Pokemon types after typing up this list...
            That's a huge list. o_o

            Anyway, here's what I think:

            Ferrothorn is a great Pokemon to use defensively, so how about using this set to start out?:
            -Spikes/Stealth Rock
            -Leech Seed
            -Power Whip
            -Gyro Ball
            Nature: Relaxed
            EVs: 252 HP/68 Def/188 SDef
            Item: Leftovers

            Tentacruel or Starmie pair well with Ferrothorn because they resist Fire and Fighting. Both also provide Rapid Spin support:

            Tentacruel:
            -Scald
            -Rapid Spin
            -Toxic Spikes
            -Protect/Ice Beam
            Nature: Bold
            EVs: 252 HP/240 Def/16 Spe
            Item: Leftovers/Black Sludge
            Ability: Liquid Ooze/Rain Dish

            Starmie:
            -Hydro Pump/Surf
            -Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Rapid Spin
            -Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Rapid Spin
            -Recover
            Nature: Timid
            EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
            Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
            Ability: Natural Cure

            Arcanine can be used if you want a FWG core:

            Arcanine:
            -Flare Blitz
            -Wild Charge
            -Close Combat
            -ExtremeSpeed/Crunch
            Nature: Adamant/Jolly
            EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
            Item: Life Orb
            Ability: Flash Fire/Intimidate

            You can use Gengar to cover the Ground weaknesses of Arcanine (and Tentacruel if you choose to use it):
            -Substitute
            -Disable/Pain Split/Thunderbolt/Hidden Power (Fire)
            -Shadow Ball
            -Focus Blast
            Nature: Timid
            EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
            Item: Life Orb/Leftovers

            You can use Scrafty for some Fighting coverage:
            -Dragon Dance
            -Hi Jump Kick/Drain Punch
            -Crunch
            -Ice Punch/Taunt
            Nature: Jolly
            EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
            Item: Life Orb
            Ability: Moxie

            or
            -Bulk Up
            -Drain Punch
            -Crunch/Dragon Tail
            -Rest
            Nature: Careful
            EVs: 252 HP/8 Atk/248 SDef
            Item: Leftovers
            Ability: Shed Skin

            Reuniclus can be used to help against stall:
            -Calm Mind
            -Recover
            -Psychic/Psyshock
            -Focus Blast
            Nature: Bold
            EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
            Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
            Ability: Magic Guard
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              That's a huge list. o_o

              Anyway, here's what I think:

              Ferrothorn is a great Pokemon to use defensively, so how about using this set to start out?:
              -Spikes/Stealth Rock
              -Leech Seed
              -Power Whip
              -Gyro Ball
              Nature: Relaxed
              EVs: 252 HP/68 Def/188 SDef
              Item: Leftovers

              Tentacruel or Starmie pair well with Ferrothorn because they resist Fire and Fighting. Both also provide Rapid Spin support:

              Tentacruel:
              -Scald
              -Rapid Spin
              -Toxic Spikes
              -Protect/Ice Beam
              Nature: Bold
              EVs: 252 HP/240 Def/16 Spe
              Item: Leftovers/Black Sludge
              Ability: Liquid Ooze/Rain Dish

              Starmie:
              -Hydro Pump/Surf
              -Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Rapid Spin
              -Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Rapid Spin
              -Recover
              Nature: Timid
              EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
              Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
              Ability: Natural Cure

              Arcanine can be used if you want a FWG core:

              Arcanine:
              -Flare Blitz
              -Wild Charge
              -Close Combat
              -ExtremeSpeed/Crunch
              Nature: Adamant/Jolly
              EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
              Item: Life Orb
              Ability: Flash Fire/Intimidate

              You can use Gengar to cover the Ground weaknesses of Arcanine (and Tentacruel if you choose to use it):
              -Substitute
              -Disable/Pain Split/Thunderbolt/Hidden Power (Fire)
              -Shadow Ball
              -Focus Blast
              Nature: Timid
              EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
              Item: Life Orb/Leftovers

              You can use Scrafty for some Fighting coverage:
              -Dragon Dance
              -Hi Jump Kick/Drain Punch
              -Crunch
              -Ice Punch/Taunt
              Nature: Jolly
              EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
              Item: Life Orb
              Ability: Moxie

              or
              -Bulk Up
              -Drain Punch
              -Crunch/Dragon Tail
              -Rest
              Nature: Careful
              EVs: 252 HP/8 Atk/248 SDef
              Item: Leftovers
              Ability: Shed Skin

              Reuniclus can be used to help against stall:
              -Calm Mind
              -Recover
              -Psychic/Psyshock
              -Focus Blast
              Nature: Bold
              EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
              Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
              Ability: Magic Guard
              Thank you for all of your help! I will definitely take this into consideration! :]
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              Old February 6th, 2012 (8:03 AM).
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                I have a question so I recently have pokemion online but there is something I don't understand.
                Actually those clauses. Can anyone please give some information about it?
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                Old February 6th, 2012 (8:24 AM).
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                  I have a question so I recently have pokemion online but there is something I don't understand.
                  Actually those clauses. Can anyone please give some information about it?
                  Just follow this link, here. It has everything you need to know about clauses Not to mention linking is easier than describing every clause haha
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                  Old February 14th, 2012 (8:26 PM).
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                    Hey folks, tell me what ya'll think about my newly completed Choice Band/Scarf Dragonite. I can run a Scarf on him, but it's mostly going to be Banded.

                    Dragonite @ Choice Band/Scarf
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                    Earthquake
                    Ice Punch
                    Waterfall

                    I just threw Waterfall on there as a filler, there might be better choices like Rock Slide of Stone Edge. The idea is to hit with as much power as possible right off the bat. Or faster with max attack. And Extreme Speed isn't an option, because I don't use RNG or Pokemon online or whatever you use to change stuff around, like perfect IV's on your whole team. This was strictly done on the actual DS system, breeding for the right nature and EV training it manually.
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                    Old February 14th, 2012 (8:37 PM).
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                    Hey folks, tell me what ya'll think about my newly completed Choice Band/Scarf Dragonite. I can run a Scarf on him, but it's mostly going to be Banded.

                    Dragonite @ Choice Band/Scarf
                    Adamant nature
                    252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP

                    Outrage
                    Earthquake
                    Ice Punch
                    Waterfall

                    I just threw Waterfall on there as a filler, there might be better choices like Rock Slide of Stone Edge. The idea is to hit with as much power as possible right off the bat. Or faster with max attack. And Extreme Speed isn't an option, because I don't use RNG or Pokemon online or whatever you use to change stuff around, like perfect IV's on your whole team. This was strictly done on the actual DS system, breeding for the right nature and EV training it manually.
                    Ice Punch is redundant with Outrage; use Fire Punch instead (for the Steels that EQ can't hit, like Skarmory). You can also consider ExtremeSpeed over Waterfall for the priority (but Dragonite learns it as an event move from HG/SS or by breeding a male ES Dratini/Dragonair/Dragonite (from HG/SS) with the female counterpart). Is your Dragonite's ability Multiscale?
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                      Would it be smart to combine a sandstorm and trick room team into one? My team would consist of Hippowdon, Carracosta, Bronzong, Steelix, Aggron, and Torterra.
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                        Would it be smart to combine a sandstorm and trick room team into one? My team would consist of Hippowdon, Carracosta, Bronzong, Steelix, Aggron, and Torterra.
                        I mean, you can if you so choose, as the majority of those Pokemon are pretty slow. You could use Bronzong as your lead with TR/Screens/SR/Gyro Ball to get set up everyone else, but if you're playing OU you might want to give Reuniclus the nod over Zong, and maybe Landorus & Gliscor over Aggron and Torterra, as they'll last longer and be more beneficial in sand imo. If it's not a serious OU team, then use who you wish!
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                          I mean, you can if you so choose, as the majority of those Pokemon are pretty slow. You could use Bronzong as your lead with TR/Screens/SR/Gyro Ball to get set up everyone else, but if you're playing OU you might want to give Reuniclus the nod over Zong, and maybe Landorus & Gliscor over Aggron and Torterra, as they'll last longer and be more beneficial in sand imo. If it's not a serious OU team, then use who you wish!
                          I would use this team to battle in OU. I was going for the unorthodox look. If I were to bring in Landorus what should it's set-up be? Also a second question: Is there some kind of secret to EV training? It seems like I have lots of trouble with it.
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                            I would use this team to battle in OU. I was going for the unorthodox look. If I were to bring in Landorus what should it's set-up be? Also a second question: Is there some kind of secret to EV training? It seems like I have lots of trouble with it.
                            Landorus might, emphasis on the might, work in a TR team. With minimal speed investments, it can reach a speed of 183, slower than base 76 speed Mons, with no EV investments and a neutral nature. Just don't get too excited.

                            As for EV training, you're gonna have to be a little more specific. What part to you have trouble with? Keeping track of the EVs? Finding spots to train? 'Cause EV training is pretty simple.. hahaha
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                              Landorus might, emphasis on the might, work in a TR team. With minimal speed investments, it can reach a speed of 183, slower than base 76 speed Mons, with no EV investments and a neutral nature. Just don't get too excited.

                              As for EV training, you're gonna have to be a little more specific. What part to you have trouble with? Keeping track of the EVs? Finding spots to train? 'Cause EV training is pretty simple.. hahaha
                              Keeping track. It's what gets me everytime. I'm doing good and then one mistake pretty much screws me over. I end up with 255 instead of 252.
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                              Keeping track. It's what gets me everytime. I'm doing good and then one mistake pretty much screws me over. I end up with 255 instead of 252.
                              Use a tally chart, i find it easy to keep track that way.
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                              Old February 18th, 2012 (6:15 PM). Edited February 18th, 2012 by EB.
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                              Can someone please explain to me the benefits of getting involved in the competitive battling scene? I'm hesitant to question the relevance of anything since most people consider it to be an insult or bash against said thing, but I assure you that this post is not to invoke such nonsense.

                              The reason I'm asking such a question is because I've done some thinking, but I really see no variety to award approaching such a scene. Granted I haven't immersed myself all that much, but it appears that the only changes ever made to the metagame are those that occur after every new release or the occasional discovered stratagem; I haven't seen signs of much, if any, fluctuation in team builds that would actually have a chance at pulling off wins. :cer_frown:

                              Is there some aspect of the competitive scene I'm not currently aware of? Am I wrong about the variety in team builds? Are there clutch outcomes outside of the game's influence, i.e. chance-moves?

                              Someone please prove me wrong. Pokémon has been something I upheld all the way through my teens, no matter how unpopular it became. I'd only praise the people who showed me it's relevance outside of a relaxed pastime.
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                              Old February 18th, 2012 (7:47 PM).
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                                Just started a new Platinum story and got a Piplup. Who else should I have on my team?

                                So far:

                                Piplup (Obviously)
                                Starly (to cover Piplup's grass weakness)
                                Abra (for later to help with fighting)
                                Roselia (for ground types)
                                Lucario (I just kinda like the guy)
                                Gible (For electric types)

                                NOTE: I don't have all of these people yet, this is just a plan.

                                Don't REALLY know if this belongs here, but I think it does, as I can't post a thread in In-Game Team Help, because I don't have movesets.

                                IS THIS GOOD?
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                                Old February 20th, 2012 (11:26 PM).
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                                Just started a new Platinum story and got a Piplup. Who else should I have on my team?

                                So far:

                                Piplup (Obviously)
                                Starly (to cover Piplup's grass weakness)
                                Abra (for later to help with fighting)
                                Roselia (for ground types)
                                Lucario (I just kinda like the guy)
                                Gible (For electric types)

                                NOTE: I don't have all of these people yet, this is just a plan.

                                Don't REALLY know if this belongs here, but I think it does, as I can't post a thread in In-Game Team Help, because I don't have movesets.

                                IS THIS GOOD?
                                Well for Roselia, it doesn't resist ground, and in which case you'd be better off with a pure grass Pokemon since with that extra typing it doesn't really make a difference, plus you have Starly to completely avoid ground type attacks due to it being a flying type. If you still wanted grass, you could go for Tangrowth, considering that Sinnoh doesn't have the best choice in grass types. But it depends on what you want Roselia for, if you want something to set-up hazards, then yes it'll work, but if you want a staller or to just outright attack water/ground types since nothing can really hurt water, then Tangrowth would probably work better for you (you also didn't say Roselia needed a specific role so...) Plus it also has a fun ability in Regenerator, meaning it can't be taken down easily, etc. For something offensive then Tangrowth is probably the better choice, due to better stats overall. ;x

                                Either way, soon there will be a sticky made @ in-game team help for you to post that sorta stuff anyways. Don't know when exactly the mods are intending to do that though :(
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                                Old February 21st, 2012 (6:33 AM).
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                                  Hello!
                                  I'd like to ask a question on BW OU...
                                  So, I'm planning a team. I have Celebi, Rotom-W and Heatran. I see that Blissey and Chansey would be a problem to these Pokemon, so I'm looking for a Fighting-type to help me counter Blissey and Chansey.
                                  So...which one should I use? Conkeldurr, Terrakion, Cobalion or Virizion? Well, my mind's set on either Conkeldurr or Terrakion...but I prefer Terrakion due to its Speed.
                                  Thanks!
                                   
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