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Old October 19th, 2011 (10:05 AM). Edited October 19th, 2011 by Vrai.
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Has anyone else faced the issue of overpredicting in like every battle? I feel like all I ever do is overpredict which works out really bad for me. For example, wifi lets me see a team, see Politoed, send out Virizion. Assume they wouldn't keep it in on Virizion because it can basically 2HKO it, use Stone Edge as there are flying types @ preview, nope, keep it in, do bad... etc.

And when I assume people will start off with Rotom-W (probably trick, assuming that deoxys-s will be screens but haha it isn't), they... don't. And yet a great portion of others do. Idk I should just assume nobody is going to play strategically or something, 'cause it's pretty annoying to lose batltes in general from overpredicting that I'd otherwise have won lol.
Yeah, I did. Prediction is an art, really - especially predicting on the ladder. You can't just assume your opponent will be a high-calibre opponent to begin with. More often than not, the first few turns are best spent by going with the safest move and scouting how your opponent plays and responds to your move. From there you can identify their playstyle and start to plan your predictions accordingly. It's just a learn-by-experience thing; if you find yourself overpredicting all the time, just try to focus on making the safe move unless the prediction is absolutely vital to winning the game. It's better to play it safe and make slow strides rather than go balls to the wall turn one and risk losing the whole match.

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Old October 19th, 2011 (10:27 PM).
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Yeah, I did. Prediction is an art, really - especially predicting on the ladder. You can't just assume your opponent will be a high-calibre opponent to begin with. More often than not, the first few turns are best spent by going with the safest move and scouting how your opponent plays and responds to your move. From there you can identify their playstyle and start to plan your predictions accordingly. It's just a learn-by-experience thing; if you find yourself overpredicting all the time, just try to focus on making the safe move unless the prediction is absolutely vital to winning the game. It's better to play it safe and make slow strides rather than go balls to the wall turn one and risk losing the whole match.

edit: also oh my goodness this is a fabulous resource

http://www.honko.freehosting.com/coverage_calc.html
It'd probably be easier for me if I did turn off wifi, since without wifi, Deoxys-S should be able to cover the most common leads without me overpredicting in regards to who the opponent will start off with, but yeah I'll try the safest and see if people don't expect that :x

That is amazing and going to be so useful! How'd you find it?
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Old October 19th, 2011 (10:54 PM).
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I hate trying to predict (though it worked against you, Nica ;D ).

That's why I love the RU/NU tiers. Pokemon people use are rather limited, so I usually know what moves and Pokemon my team are up against
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Old October 20th, 2011 (4:11 PM).
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It'd probably be easier for me if I did turn off wifi, since without wifi, Deoxys-S should be able to cover the most common leads without me overpredicting in regards to who the opponent will start off with, but yeah I'll try the safest and see if people don't expect that :x

That is amazing and going to be so useful! How'd you find it?
Well, you can play around with that kind of stuff too. You don't have to guess what they'll start with; just pick the lead that combats most of their team the best. :)

I found it by browsing through Smogon. Full of resources, that place is.

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I hate trying to predict (though it worked against you, Nica ;D ).

That's why I love the RU/NU tiers. Pokemon people use are rather limited, so I usually know what moves and Pokemon my team are up against
NU is actually the most unpredictable metagame at the moment, imo. It hasn't developed anything at all so people are constantly finding new powerful threats. That being said, it's currently my favorite metagame because it's loads of fun. I encourage everyone to try it!
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Old October 21st, 2011 (7:37 PM).
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NU is pretty fun, Vrai and I had a laddering day and got to #2 and #5 respectively, then we both tilted and he kept trying while I went to work on an OU team. Honestly, the lower tiers, barr UU which looks absolutely awful right now, will be quite fun once Sableye is banned.
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Old October 27th, 2011 (3:24 PM).
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Honestly, UU is terrible right now. Sand is everywhere, even I succumbed; it's that easy to use. A team of Hippowdon/Stoutland/Alakazam/Roserade/Filler/Filler wins you so many games. I haven't lost a single game with that team, as of now actually.
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Old October 27th, 2011 (5:12 PM).
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Honestly, UU is terrible right now. Sand is everywhere, even I succumbed; it's that easy to use. A team of Hippowdon/Stoutland/Alakazam/Roserade/Filler/Filler wins you so many games. I haven't lost a single game with that team, as of now actually.
I haven't tried it yet, but I've been planning on taking a shot at UU/RU. Why exactly is it so unbeatable? :(
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I haven't tried it yet, but I've been planning on taking a shot at UU/RU. Why exactly is it so unbeatable? :(
If you even come in to revenge kill a weakened poke on, Stoutland will come right in and take you out. Alakazam is singlehandedly the strongest pokemon in the tier. Magic guard allows it to perform amazingly in the sand, and nothing at all can really switch in. Roserade counters bulky waters, which normally can get in the way of Stoutland. Hippowdon is self explanatory, bulky and sets up sand. Golurk is an amazing sub puncher. It takes out bulky walls with focus punch and also hurts the likes of Slowbro with shadow punch. In the last slot I usually run rhyperior because CB off of 140 base attack HURTS. It also alleviates my problem with other sand teams.

As of now my sand team still has an undefeated record.
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Old October 29th, 2011 (9:42 PM).
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Someone please rate my team >:(

LC is my current obsession, I've been loving it for the past couple months.
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Old November 1st, 2011 (4:15 AM).
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I've always loved the concept of LU, but I can't wrap my head around the moves and evs. If LU was just unevolved Pokemon lvl 100 I'd love it.
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Old November 1st, 2011 (4:36 AM).
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I tried UU against Kaori once and sucked lol I just feel like I want to learn more about OU before I really do try another tier properly though I really love OU /bias
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Old November 1st, 2011 (4:43 AM).
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To be honest, I want to learn more NU/RU/UU than OU.
I just wanna know how to make a good team is all xD
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Old November 1st, 2011 (4:46 AM).
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Nobody says you can't make a good OU team, though! :(
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Old November 1st, 2011 (4:50 AM).
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I prefer to dwell in the lower tiers. Most of the Pokemon I like are in there, and it gives me more motivation to actually try making a good team and such.

On the other hand, I really, really, really, really hate weather
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Old November 1st, 2011 (4:53 AM).
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Yeah I hate weather too :x It's basically the same teams over and over w/o much variation (since weather doesn't allow you for -that- much variation), then again I'd rather face weather than something constantly u-turning/volt switching on me lol.
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OH GOD THAT'S ALL I'VE BEEN FACING.
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Old November 1st, 2011 (11:58 AM).
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Lol, well, that's really the only option this gen. Weather is the standard, or Volt Switch / U-Turn to prevent getting swept by weather. :/ It's a shame, but I dunno, if you just fall in line it becomes much more fun. xD
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You have so many options in BW OU it's not even funny. Whatever you try can be viable. There are just so many things you can do! Yes, you have to be able to deal with weather and those U-turn teams and Baton Pass and all that. Yes, you have to deal with things. They are threats, and you don't have to join 'em to beat 'em. Be creative and find new ways to do things! That's how the best players invent new playstyles; everyone else falls into line and they are the ones who step out. You can't be a great player by acting like a mediocre one.

And on the flip side of that, yes, those teams are very good and can be played very well.

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On the other hand, I really, really, really, really hate weather
...there's an auto-weather starter in literally every tier. Good luck avoiding weather. (OU: Tyranitar, Ninetales, Politoed; UU: Hippowdon, Abomasnow; RU & NU: Snover [and Hippopotas soon probably])
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Old November 1st, 2011 (10:13 PM).
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You have so many options in BW OU it's not even funny. Whatever you try can be viable. There are just so many things you can do! Yes, you have to be able to deal with weather and those U-turn teams and Baton Pass and all that. Yes, you have to deal with things. They are threats, and you don't have to join 'em to beat 'em. Be creative and find new ways to do things! That's how the best players invent new playstyles; everyone else falls into line and they are the ones who step out. You can't be a great player by acting like a mediocre one.

And on the flip side of that, yes, those teams are very good and can be played very well.



...there's an auto-weather starter in literally every tier. Good luck avoiding weather. (OU: Tyranitar, Ninetales, Politoed; UU: Hippowdon, Abomasnow; RU & NU: Snover [and Hippopotas soon probably])
I know they are many weather starters in all tiers, but I hope they'll be less frequent in the lower tiers (apart from UU)
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Just remember who to give credit to for popularizing Volt Turning teams. After all why do you think they are spammed now ? ;D

Also, should i get back into Pokes after not playing in like 3 months ? Y/N/M ??????????? also Wifi or PO ???????????? Hmmmmmm so many decisions lol.
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Old November 2nd, 2011 (7:31 AM).
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First question: y. Second question: PO. Breeding good teams for wifi takes waaay too long without RNGing (considering I was trying to breed w/o needing RNG earlier today and gave up easily - I had the right idea at least!) tbh I can't even enjoy battling without PO anymore, lol. :x
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First question: y. Second question: PO. Breeding good teams for wifi takes waaay too long without RNGing (considering I was trying to breed w/o needing RNG earlier today and gave up easily - I had the right idea at least!) tbh I can't even enjoy battling without PO anymore, lol. :x
Eh screw RNG. 1. It makes no sense to me. 2. Im horrible at maths. :(

~POKEGEN~ ftw lol :x
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Old November 2nd, 2011 (9:59 AM).
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Eh screw RNG. 1. It makes no sense to me. 2. Im horrible at maths. :(

~POKEGEN~ ftw lol :x
I thought there was something prevented you from using generated 'mons on WiFi. ?_? Also play PO so I can battle you.
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Old November 3rd, 2011 (4:05 AM).
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(In terms of leads)

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September:

| 1 | Politoed | 38033 | 8.101% |
| 2 | Tyranitar | 34204 | 7.285% |
| 3 | Rotom-W | 31526 | 6.715% |
| 4 | Deoxys-S | 24562 | 5.232% |
| 5 | Ninetales | 15165 | 3.230% |
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| 1 | Politoed | 41692 | 9.165% |
| 2 | Deoxys-S | 30491 | 6.703% |
| 3 | Rotom-W | 28059 | 6.168% |
| 4 | Tyranitar | 25345 | 5.571% |
| 5 | Ninetales | 16226 | 3.567% |
^ My wish is for Deoxys-S to reach #1 this month. Except it's impossible because everyone loves rain and I wish for it to disappear. :( But yaaay improvement!

GO AWAY POLITOED.
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Old November 3rd, 2011 (7:08 AM).
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Nuuuu I love rain! It's fun to use and I can make good use of one of my favourite Pokémon ;__; Toxicroak

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