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Originally Posted by Karpman
I'd love it if Sand Veil was banned and Garchomp was brought back. Garchomp is my favorite Pokemon and I loved using it when it was around, while I've fallen in love with many Pokemon such as Celebi, Heatran, Terrakion and Tangrowth, Garchomp returning to the metagame would really increase my motivation to play and make awesome teams with it. Also, Elf, Reuniclus really isn't that bad. TR Reuniclus is a joke to stall, since Protect is on so many mons and the ones with reliable recovery can just stall it out of TR, provided it doesn't crit. Calm Mind Reuniclus is beaten by the following Pokemon that are viable on Stall Teams
-Jirachi - Yay 100% counter.
-CB Tyranitar - Loses to TR versions. Also cant OHKo without a CB even then most of the time Reuniclus actually lives a CB Crunch.
-Deoxys-D [Taunt+Night Shade] - Loses to the TR set.
-Mew [^] - see above.
-Perish Song Celebi - see above.
-Sableye - yay 100% counter.
-Spiritomb [lol] - This isnt very good in OU imo (as shown by its usage). Rest and Pain Split absolutely suck and for the most part why would you use it over Sableye?
-Psyshock versions lose to taunt Gliscor. - Loses to any set with Psychic, plus i doubt its wanting to take Shadow Balls tbh (Modest LO Shadow Ball Vs 252 /0 Glis 43.5% - 51.4%)
-If it isn't last mon, then CM Roar Latias wins. - Loses to TR set and also CM LO Psyshock beats it as its a 3HKO at +1 even from defensive sets so its very real Reuniclus will wear you down over the course of a match.
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Bold.
Im not saying it doesnt have counters. Plus thats barely relevant, chomp has counters (sup im Quagsire) Exca has counters, doesnt stop them being uber.
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Originally Posted by Me
Reuniclus imo fits the uber characteristics because its exactly like Salamence last gen though, not because it solely beats stall. It will cost you or badly cripple if a mon or several if you guess wrong on the set its packing (not even mence/dragons couldn't do that last gen as its sets all had one common check - steels) and its CM checks are TOTALLY different from its TR sets bar Jira and Sp.def Scizor (Latter MUST be sp.def otherwise 248/0 takes up to 80% from TR LO Focus Blast) (maybe Sableye too as a 100% surefire counter). The TR set will crush 90% of the CM counters and really hurts offensive teams (even defensive teams struggle due to its type coverage and mixed attacking[Psyshock to beat special walls]) and utterly reverses momentum so in a way its detriment to both offense and defense with its sets. Even the Cmer hurts offense rather badly as its ridiculously bulky and so hard to KO with Recover and being immune to all reidual damage. Ive also seen people in so many matches switch around just to try to outstall the TR turns because nothing they have can beat it, that just gets you worn down and opened up, its really stupid to be honest how many times this actually happens vs all sorts of opponents, even high on the ladder. Again going back to my point of "It will cost you or badly cripple a mon or several mons if you guess wrong on the set its packing". Reuniclus essentially is like Yanmega in UU last gen, in where is forces you to pack a 100% counter or be swept (in its case Registeel or Chansey and in Reuniclus case Sp.Def Scizor, Sableye and Jirachi) and Yanmega was actually banned for making play styles (namely HO) unviable. If you switched something into Yanmega expecting Speed Boost (CMer) it could pull Tinted Lense specs (TR) on you and crush your team.
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And honestly, id sooner face Thundurus every day of the week rather than Reuniclus.
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