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Old August 16th, 2011 (7:41 AM).
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I feel this thread is a proper place to make my announcement to the CBC community: Let me just say, competitive battling has become dry, repetitive, and just generally annoying. I've lost interest severely this time, more so than I ever have before when taking a hiatus. I'm not sure what about me has caused this drastic change in my view of competitive battling, but I'm afraid I can't do much about it other than to accept it. So here, I'll make my announcement that I'm officially done with competitive battling on Pokemon.

Now this isn't a "goodbye PC" post, but merely a post stating that I no longer wish to battle. Any and all tournaments I'm currently involved with I will be forfeiting my matches. I just...don't feel like doing them anymore. CBC is dying guys. I can't stand to watch it wilt away, but it is and I feel like I've tried to make a difference, but it's not a lasting change, or I'm withheld by something else from doing what I feel could make CBC more successful.

Now I guess there's a little reasoning I should put behind the reason I'm quitting. The metagame is dull. If you don't run Special Defensive Jirachi or Special Defensive Scizor, you lose. It's as simple as that. If you don't run some form or priority, you lose to Excadrill (in sand at least) or Scarf Terrakion. I feel the gameplay has become so mechanized that I can't stand making new teams as they quite honestly end up being the same as a past team, save 2 or 3 pokemon, or exactly the same as another team I've seen someone in our community use. It's just not fun anymore. But hey, at least the BW metagame isn't as dull as the steel/dragon **** storm that was DPPt. With this loss of interest, I stopped rating teams...stopped caring. That's why I'm quitting, I just don't care anymore.

Now don't take that the wrong way. I certainly care about all of you at CBC, and certainly plan to visit the server quite often. Just don't ever ask me for a battle, because I will simply refuse. I've deleted all my teams, and no longer have even one of them saved. My adorable Amoonguss team, gone. My exceptional ADV team, gone. It's official. I'm being dramatic, I know, it's how I was taught in AP Lang & Comp and I don't know any better.

So I hope you all can understand and accept the fact that I won't be battling anymore. I don't want to lose friends over this, because you all are truly my friends. :] Also, on a side-note, if anyone wants to take over my planned clan, I can provide the OP that I had waiting via PM.
Cry moar!

Also is the PO sever down? I can't get on it :s
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Now I guess there's a little reasoning I should put behind the reason I'm quitting. The metagame is dull. If you don't run Special Defensive Jirachi or Special Defensive Scizor, you lose. It's as simple as that. If you don't run some form or priority, you lose to Excadrill (in sand at least) or Scarf Terrakion. I feel the gameplay has become so mechanized that I can't stand making new teams as they quite honestly end up being the same as a past team, save 2 or 3 pokemon, or exactly the same as another team I've seen someone in our community use. It's just not fun anymore. But hey, at least the BW metagame isn't as dull as the steel/dragon **** storm that was DPPt. With this loss of interest, I stopped rating teams...stopped caring. That's why I'm quitting, I just don't care anymore.
You don't have to run those things. :s I haven't run any of those in my past three teams and all three have gotten to top 100 on ladder, one going to top 50 or so and the other peaking at #13. I mean I'm not going to argue if you really feel like it's not for you anymore but you can still be innovative and creative and come up with new ways to beat things. You don't have to use the same-old same-old strats people have been using to deal with things. Be spontaneous and creative!

But like I said if you really don't care anymore I guess I can't do anything about that. :(


And I kinda also want to apologize for my lack of posting and rating and stuff too. Being at practice all the time is really killing my free time and half the time I just wanna sit here and do nothing when I should be doing something important. :(

Darmanitan is best used as a Scarfer on Drought teams.
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Old August 17th, 2011 (12:11 PM). Edited August 17th, 2011 by Dark Azelf.
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I feel this thread is a proper place to make my announcement to the CBC community: Let me just say, competitive battling has become dry, repetitive, and just generally annoying. I've lost interest severely this time, more so than I ever have before when taking a hiatus. I'm not sure what about me has caused this drastic change in my view of competitive battling, but I'm afraid I can't do much about it other than to accept it. So here, I'll make my announcement that I'm officially done with competitive battling on Pokemon.

Now this isn't a "goodbye PC" post, but merely a post stating that I no longer wish to battle. Any and all tournaments I'm currently involved with I will be forfeiting my matches. I just...don't feel like doing them anymore. CBC is dying guys. I can't stand to watch it wilt away, but it is and I feel like I've tried to make a difference, but it's not a lasting change, or I'm withheld by something else from doing what I feel could make CBC more successful.

Now I guess there's a little reasoning I should put behind the reason I'm quitting. The metagame is dull. If you don't run Special Defensive Jirachi or Special Defensive Scizor, you lose. It's as simple as that. If you don't run some form or priority, you lose to Excadrill (in sand at least) or Scarf Terrakion. I feel the gameplay has become so mechanized that I can't stand making new teams as they quite honestly end up being the same as a past team, save 2 or 3 pokemon, or exactly the same as another team I've seen someone in our community use. It's just not fun anymore. But hey, at least the BW metagame isn't as dull as the steel/dragon **** storm that was DPPt. With this loss of interest, I stopped rating teams...stopped caring. That's why I'm quitting, I just don't care anymore.

Now don't take that the wrong way. I certainly care about all of you at CBC, and certainly plan to visit the server quite often. Just don't ever ask me for a battle, because I will simply refuse. I've deleted all my teams, and no longer have even one of them saved. My adorable Amoonguss team, gone. My exceptional ADV team, gone. It's official. I'm being dramatic, I know, it's how I was taught in AP Lang & Comp and I don't know any better.

So I hope you all can understand and accept the fact that I won't be battling anymore. I don't want to lose friends over this, because you all are truly my friends. :] Also, on a side-note, if anyone wants to take over my planned clan, I can provide the OP that I had waiting via PM.
Just try another metagame dude. I agree OU sucks at the moment and seeing the same Pokes every battle is extremely easy to take advantage. I designed my team to abuse this fact and this past week ive been in the top 5 and 10 consistently. Im sure going to be nominating all of the stuff that force you to use Sp.Def Scizor (horrible set) and Jirachi (im looking at you Reunibroken and Latiuber) lol. Reuniclus is more broken than Latios imo though. At least you can check Latios. If Reuniclus uses Trick Room it decimates ~90% of its so called checks. Plus ive been seeing people use HP Fire over Shadow Ball for said "sp.def steel" checks. Psychics are easy to get rid of anyway because of ScarfTar/CB Tar's rise in usage so you dont even lose anything from losing S-Ball lol. :/

May i suggest Ubers ? Its incredibly balanced compared to any other tier. I haven't battled ubers since gen 4, but ive watched a few gen 5 battles and it looks incredibly fun. Any team play style seems to work, ive seen stall, weather, HO and everything inbetween. Even guys like Tentacruel and Cloyster can shine there. Also if you have a weakness to something dumb ? Put in an Arceus forme to counter utility things and lol. :]

NU and LU (on PO) are really fun too.
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I doubt the metagame will ever be anymore diverse than now. There will be always be those Pokémon you see on every team, in my opinion anyway. I would say it's pretty diverse if I hear popular teams using Pokémon like Cacturne, Gastrodon, and Roserade. You would never see that type of creativity during the last generation, only a new "twist" on a already popular Pokémon. Battling is more interesting when you think out-of-the-box with your teams, even if it won't be as successful as using the top 25 Pokémon.

Of course you will lose interest eventually though, breaks always help.
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The tiers right now are based on usage statistics and ban lists. The June 2011 Usage stats can be found here, the OU Banlist can be found here.
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Old August 19th, 2011 (11:30 AM). Edited August 19th, 2011 by Dark Azelf.
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Just curious and all, but which of you would play "wifi" with gen 3 (no typo) online i said for arguments sake "knew" how to with a VBA via servers ? ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO9VR76yXUQ&feature=relmfu

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Just curious and all, but which of you would play "wifi" with gen 3 (no typo) online i said for arguments sake "knew" how to with a VBA via servers ? ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO9VR76yXUQ&feature=relmfu

example of what i mean. -sparkle shimmer- lol
That's pretty cool, Elf. Although I haven't touched ADV Gen and I still prefer PO to Wifi, so I'm not sure if I'd be interested. Anyhow, I figured I'd share this, it's a Pokemon Online battle recorder, and while it's still in development, it's p neat.
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Old August 26th, 2011 (10:48 AM).
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this thread needs a bump so it will come in the form of sunshine

have any of you really used drought lately? like, everyone's OH NINETALES SUX and yeah i have to say i agreed to that before too but drought is really damn impressive when you can win the weather war. there are tons of innovative ways to abuse it (ie CB ape, scarf darmanitan, volcarona, rotom-h, specs heatran...) and all of those mons are also basically win conditions if you can keep rocks off the field. seriously, tell me, what's going to take a cb ape flare blitz/cc? tentacruel, maybe? even the most physically defensive build isn't going to take more than two, three of them, max. and tentacruel/jellicent are 100% set-up bait for chestorest volcarona. other weather? ape/darmanitan scare out ttar and u-turn to safety (btw it does a chunk to offensive ttar and defensive are just spinnerbait anyway) and you can use your chlorophyll abuser of choice/rotom-h/whatever to take out toed. dugtrio is seeing a lot of usage on sun teams to trap drizzle/ss.

these fire attacks are just so insanely powerful in sun that honestly once you establish control over the weather you're nearly guaranteed to win. specs overheat and cb flare blitz are moves that nothing but heatran/dedicated wall are going to take very well at all. sun sounds incredibly anti-metagame and really just mashes every playstyle up against the wall. i haven't been able to play around with it really but i want you guys to try it and see what you think.
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Sometimes you do't even need a Spinner because the offensive presence is just massive. You'll make the opponent think "Will I set up Rocks, or be forced to take boosted Flare Blitz/Fire Blast next turn?" Every Pokemon that abuses Sun is so freakin' strong that matches can often last under 20 turns if played correctly. +2 Infernape Fire Blast has a chance to OHKO Salamence and I think that speaks loads about the power of Drought abusers.

Since everybody and their mothers are sunning Shed Shell on Skarmory and stuff, Sun + Dragon should be pretty damn effective this metagame I think. When 5/6 of the team can just force Skarmory everytime, it becomes a liability to actually switch it into Haxorus or something, because a well timed double switch means somethings taking a boosted fire move and nobody likes that.

I still think Sand is the best weather, but Sun is UBER STRONG (ask Groudon :D)
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Sash Dugtrio with Reversal is so annoying on drought teams with some way to stop rocks, it can switch directly into Tyranitar and KO it 100% of the time. Seems like Ooka was onto something after all haha. =P

Volcarona is seriously uber though lol and is IMO the most broken part of sun.

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The only thing which can switch into ape in sun is uhhhh, flash fire chandelure probably lol. Tentacruel is pretty much OHKO'd and 2hko'd (iirc) by Iron Fist CC unless it uses the superior defensive spread with Bold, even then it cant take Flare Blitz's in the sun at all.

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Just a small nitpick, defensive Tar hits all the common spinners super effectively. ;x

Anyway, from using Sun, i REALLY like Victini also and im surprised it hasn't been mentioned. Its an excellent way to remove and lure in Tyranitar. I mean, with SR up CB V-Create frikkin 2hko's Tyranitar and it outspeeds non max speed ones after the speed drop. This is without sun. ._. U-Turn is also awesome as heck to get momentum and free switch ins for things like Dugtrio/Wobb and remove foe weather users like Politoed who is also prone to switching into Victini.

Regardless, sun teams have trouble switching in as most of the standard members are very frail so if you do switch in on the weakest members (see: Ninetales) you are probably going to put an ass load of offensive pressure on them. I do this with my team, double switches also create momentum for you and they will most likely lose a pokemon. Pinpointing Ninetales is also a great way to win vs drought (Tar, Pursuit, gtfo Ninetales). I also find priority to be amazing against everything bar Volcarona, a combo of Mamoswine and Scizor really create problems for chlorophyll abusers. I also doubt anything on sun can really take a hit from things like Heatran and they are most likely going to have to sac something. As said though, Dugtrio REALLY is an ass in that regard lol. Finally, faster mons/scarfers like Terrakion and Landorus <--sun doesn't want anything to do with these when they get in revenge kills. That and nothing can really beat dragons @ set up move lol.
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Yeah, I've fought plenty a sun team and Ape is just annoying. The good thing is that they spam U-Turn at first if they see a Latias [one of the best antisun Pokemon], so you if you can get up rocks, Ape can only switch in and out so many times and eventually realizes it has to use a move other than U-Turn, which is when you can lure it into using Close Combat and then sending in Gliscor to get things done. Volcarona really is annoying if played right, same goes for Sawsbuck, which can is only walled by things like Forretress and Skarmory at +2, the priority weak is a bit of a turn off, however.
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Sometimes you do't even need a Spinner because the offensive presence is just massive. You'll make the opponent think "Will I set up Rocks, or be forced to take boosted Flare Blitz/Fire Blast next turn?" Every Pokemon that abuses Sun is so freakin' strong that matches can often last under 20 turns if played correctly. +2 Infernape Fire Blast has a chance to OHKO Salamence and I think that speaks loads about the power of Drought abusers.

Since everybody and their mothers are sunning Shed Shell on Skarmory and stuff, Sun + Dragon should be pretty damn effective this metagame I think. When 5/6 of the team can just force Skarmory everytime, it becomes a liability to actually switch it into Haxorus or something, because a well timed double switch means somethings taking a boosted fire move and nobody likes that.

I still think Sand is the best weather, but Sun is UBER STRONG (ask Groudon :D)
Definitely. User Kinglypuff has gotten reqs with a no-spin support Volcarona w/ Morning Sun. It's crazy, being successful even without spinning.

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Yeah, I've fought plenty a sun team and Ape is just annoying. The good thing is that they spam U-Turn at first if they see a Latias [one of the best antisun Pokemon], so you if you can get up rocks, Ape can only switch in and out so many times and eventually realizes it has to use a move other than U-Turn, which is when you can lure it into using Close Combat and then sending in Gliscor to get things done. Volcarona really is annoying if played right, same goes for Sawsbuck, which can is only walled by things like Forretress and Skarmory at +2, the priority weak is a bit of a turn off, however.
Latias is definitely frustrating, yup. Particularly Sub+CM, setting up on most of the common Sun mons like Ninetales and Forry and Hitmontop etc. And tbh it really isn't that simple; when they can throw around U-turn like that, it honestly means in my opinion that they have the advantage. Gliscor is set-up bait for a properly EV'd Volcarona to an extent, as well as like Venusaur and quite a few other sun mons. I mean, +1 Fire Blast is something Gliscor won't take well (actually, just sun-boosted Fire Blast in general lol), whereas Gliscor can only um try to SD on it to get killed the next turn or to EQ it which doesn't do much with limited attack investment or Toxic it which is removed via chestorest. I mean those offensive Gliscors beat it with Acrobatics (which is why subvolca might be good i guess?) but still... I'd imagine that 4-attacks Sawsbuck is better than SD or 3 attacks + Aromatherapy. Sounds like an idea, anyway.

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Yeah. Sun definitely isn't perfect but it's certainly abusable (and the weaknesses are actually plausible to cover too lol). Sash Duggy is neat and tons of people are using it, to my frustration. :|
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I wasnt able to find answer from the chat on PO so ill ask here, can you set your tier to little cup? Because i have a little cup team made but it still says that i am using wifi NU. any help?
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I wasnt able to find answer from the chat on PO so ill ask here, can you set your tier to little cup? Because i have a little cup team made but it still says that i am using wifi NU. any help?
Yes you can. There must be a Pokemon in your team that is in the NU tier. Maybe one of the Pokemon you have is a single staged Pokemon.
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i am using, meowth, miefoo, charmander, munna, ferroseed, and taillow.
Does the amount of evs i use affect if it stays in the LC tier?
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Does the amount of evs i use affect if it stays in the LC tier?
Hmm, you shouldn't be having a problem then. \; Try manually switching by going to Tiers > 5th Gen > LC Wifi it should put you in that tier.

Ev's have nothing to do with it. :)
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Does the amount of evs i use affect if it stays in the LC tier?
No they don't, but they do effect stats differently, you can read a guide on Little Cup here, which explains how EVs work. You should also make sure that all of your Pokemon are at Level 5 as the default for Pokemon Online is Lv. 100 and that none of them are holding Berry Juice, which is banned in Standard LC.
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Did you set your pokemon levels to 5? I assume that's your problem. If they're 100, it'll throw you into NU. It's in the advance tab where you can select the abilities and such, so just drop the level to 5.
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yeah all my pokemon are at level 5. I found that it only shows my team as standard NU when im in the actual PO chatroom server thing. When i go to smogon and others, my team is always put into LC
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yeah all my pokemon are at level 5. I found that it only shows my team as standard NU when im in the actual PO chatroom server thing. When i go to smogon and others, my team is always put into LC
When it doesn't auto-switch, you simply have to go in and manually switch it. It shouldn't be much of a hassle.
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I haven't been coming around here recently, but I can tell that the community is expanding.

Anyways, school starts for me tomorrow so I won't be active much but I'll drop by from time to time to post and maybe I'll come back next summer.
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Old September 14th, 2011 (5:08 PM). Edited September 16th, 2011 by Ho-Oh.
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Sooo Karpman said I should ask here ;x

Since I was enjoying writing the comments on that battle log I was thinking how about an event where you get some good and some not so good battlers together to battle in like "unusual" teams and post the logs of the battles without comments or anything, and get members to write commentaries on the battles and see who can make the most interesting battle log of the battles w/ emblem rewards or something?

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