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Old July 1st, 2011 (2:47 PM). Edited July 6th, 2011 by lionrt60.
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    Hey everyone I just constructed this team and I think it may work, it is my first team I have made and I am fairly pleased with it. I know it's not really that good though. Well, without further ado lets have a look at the team.

    At a Glance

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    Team Building Process
    [spoiler]So from the title you can tell who this is
    going to be. I don’t know why, I just wanted
    To use him and after consulting bulbapedia
    I decided on a trick room special sweeper.



    I searched for a pokémon that resists most
    of stunfisk’s weakness’ and one of the
    options was Grass / Psychic and it just so happens
    I recently obtained a female harvest Exeggutor so I
    just gotta use this also usefully sets up Trick
    room. I'd be cheating myself not using Exeggutor



    Now I want to trap and kill steels so
    obviously Magnezone goes here. Gonna
    save the surprise of its moveset. It also resists all
    of Exeggutor’s weaknesses bar fire. [Note: is no longer important]




    About that fire weakness… Well, I guess I
    ought to use something like Jellicent It
    also sponges Ice attacks aimed at Stunfisk. On
    top of that it is a back up trick roomer.




    At this point I did a team weakness analysis
    and found that I had at least one 0.5 resist to every
    type so I decided to try and put some more
    sweepers here. What is slow but amazingly
    powerful? Perhaps this was an odd choice
    but I chose Guts Ursaring.



    I thought I would try Curse Emboar with
    reckless here works quite well.
    And that's my current team


    After Suggestions made from Vrai and Anti (Thanks guys) I decided to put Reuniclus here over Exeggutor

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    Up close and personal


    Stunfisk @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Static
    Evs: 224 Hp / 32 Def / 252 SpA
    Quiet Nature (+ SpA, - Spd)
    Thunderbolt
    Earth Power
    Surf
    Sludge Wave

    Simple, Evs to maximize defenses while still doing massive damage and as less speed as possible. All of stunfisk's moves together have perfect coverage.


    Reuniclus @ Life Orb
    Ability: Magic Guard
    Nature: Quiet (+SpA, -Spe)
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Def
    - Trick Room
    - Recover
    - Shadow Ball
    - Focus Blast

    What do I say about this, it's great! Trick room to set up obviously, recover to...well, recover, Shadow ball & Focus blast have perfect coverage, this set is the one vrai suggested with recover over psychic, however I don't think this was a good decision as it leaves Reuni without stab, I put it here until someone tells me whether to replace shadow ball or focus blast instead.

    Previous:
    Spoiler:


    Exeggutor @ Sitrus Berry
    Trait: Harvest
    Evs: 160 Hp / 252 SpA / 96 SpD
    Sassy Nature (+ SpD, - Spd)
    Giga Drain
    Trick Room
    Psyshock
    Leaf Storm

    Usually leads, this Exeggutor 2HKOs Deoxys-s and many other common rock leads. Normally sets up trick room first and yeah, this is my exeggutor He also resists all of stunfisk's weaknesses bar Ice.




    Magnezone @ Air Balloon
    Trait: Magnet Pull
    Evs: 252 Hp / 8 Def / 136 SpA / 108 SpD
    Ivs: Def: 30 / SpA: 30 / Spd: 2
    Sassy Nature (+ SpD, - Spd)
    Recycle
    Hidden Power [Fire]
    Thunderbolt
    Volt Switch

    Yup, that's right, recycle. Rather a strange set the Special Attack Evs allow you to OHKO Standard CB Scizor, obviously the Ivs are to obtain HP Fire. Normally when using this you'll just attack and recycle if necessary. Fairly Simple. Magnezone also resists all of Exeggutor's weaknesses bar Fire which is why I have...



    Jellicent @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    Evs: 252 Hp / 224 Def / 32 SpD
    Relaxed Nature (+ Def, - Spd)
    Trick Room
    Scald
    Recover
    Toxic

    Quite easy to comprehend, Jellicent sponges Fire and Ice attacks for the team, replenishes trick room and spreads toxic and burns [Note: I replaced Toxic with Ice beam]



    Ursaring @ Flame Orb
    Trait: Guts
    Evs: 248 Hp / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 4 SpD
    Brave Nature (+Atk, - Spd)
    Swords Dance
    Facade
    Crunch
    Earthquake

    Ursa SDs while flame orb activates multiplying damage by 300%! Consider that his attacks are coming off of a base 130 Attack stat and Ursa is nothing to be scoffed at! Facade is the obvious move of choice as it's base power doubles while burned. Crunch for those Ghosties and EQ for coverage I haven't used Close Combat because Emboar has a fighting type move and I don't really want the defence drops of Close Combat.



    Emboar @ Life Orb
    Trait: Reckless
    Evs: 88 Hp / 252 Atk / 84 Def / 84 SpD
    Brave Nature (+ Atk, - Spd)
    Curse
    Flare Blitz
    Head Smash
    Hammer Arm

    Reckless Emboar is a rather underrated threat in my opinion. The Evs are for maximising defenses and attacking prowess. Curse for lowering (and therefore raising) speed and raising attack and defense. Flare Blitz and Head Smash take advantage of Reckless and Life orb with the former being a rather powerful STAB. Hammer arm for coverage, STAB & team utility.

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    Threatlist

    Abomasnow – Really? Emboar.
    Alakazam – Ursaring.
    Alomomola – Magnezone probably
    Amoonguss – Emboar?
    Ampharos – Stunfisk.
    Azumarill – Magnezone, watching out for superpower D:
    Blissey – Emboar?
    Bouffalant – Emboar.
    Braviary – A possible problem, probably my best bet is Jellicent.
    Breloom – Magnezone.
    Bronzong – Magnezone.
    Carracosta – Hrmm...
    Chandelure – Probably Emboar’s Head smash.
    Cloyster – Magnezone?
    Cobalion – Emboar?
    Cohagrigus – umm…I might toxic then switch to Stunfisk? (Idk now Jelli has Ice Beam D
    Conkeldurr – Jellicent.
    Crobat – Stunfisk / Magnezone
    Darmanitan – Stunfisk?
    Deoxys-D – hrmm…Ursaring?
    Deoxys-s – Ursaring?
    Donphan – Jellicent.
    Dragonite – would probably switch to emboar :/
    Dusclops – Could try to beat down with Ursaring.
    Dusknoir – Could try to beat down with Ursaring.
    Electivire – Ursaring / Stunfisk
    Empoleon – Ursaring.
    Escavalier – Magnezone ftw
    Espeon – Ursaring.
    Excadrill – Magnezone was sorta made to check this
    Feraligatr – Magnezone / Stunfisk
    Ferrothorn – Magnezone.
    Flygon – Spam scald?
    Forretress – Emboar.
    Gallade – Some stab attack
    Gardevoir – Ursaring.
    Genesect – Magnezone
    Gengar – Ursaring.
    Gigalith – Jellicent.
    Gliscor – Stunfisk?
    Gorebyss – Stunfisk / Magnezone
    Gyarados – Magnezone
    Haxorus – Oh fuuuu…
    Heatran – Stunfisk
    Heracross – Emboar
    Hippowdon – Jellicent
    Hitmontop – Jellicent
    Hydreigion – Hopefully Emboar will work… or Jellicent.
    Infernape – Jellicent
    Jellicent – Ursa 2HKOs
    Jirachi – Ursa or Stunfisk
    Jolteon – Stunfisk
    Kabutops – Jellicent?
    Keldeo – Unreleased
    Kingdra – Jellicent?
    Krookodile – Stunfisk
    Kyurem – Emboar
    Landorus – Jellicent?
    Lanturn – Ursa?
    Lapras – Magnezone
    Latias – Major weakness!
    Latios – Major weakness!
    Lilligant – Emboar
    Lucario – Magnezone
    Ludicolo – Ursa?
    Machamp – Reuniclus Psychic.
    Magnezone – Emboar I assume
    Mamoswine – Magnezone?
    Mandibuzz – Magnezone / Stunfisk
    Meganium – Emboar
    Metagross – Magnezone
    Mew – Kinda hard to predict, most likely Jellicent unless I know something.
    Mienshao – Jellicent
    Milotic – Magnezone
    Nidoking – Stunfisk
    Nidoqueen – Stunfisk
    Ninetales – Stunfisk
    Ninjask – Emboar
    Omastar – Stunfisk
    Politoed – Magnezone
    Porygon2 – Emboar?
    Quagsire – umm...
    Raikou – Stunfisk
    Regice – Emboar
    Regirock – Stunfisk / Jellicent
    Registeel – Magnezone / Stunfisk
    Reuniclus – Major weakness!
    Roserade – Ursa
    Rotom-H – Emboar
    Rotom-W – Magnezone?
    Salamence – Magnezone?
    Sawsbuck – Emboar
    Sceptile – Emboar
    Scizor – Magnezone, Period.
    Scrafty – Emboar
    Sigilyph – Emboar
    Skarmory – Magnezone
    Slowbro – Magnezone?
    Smeargle – Emboar
    Snorlax – Emboar
    Staraptor – Emboar
    Starmie – Magnezone
    Suicune – Magnezone
    Swampert – ermm...
    Swellow – Emboar
    Tentacruel – Ursaring
    Terrakion – Jellicent
    Thundurus – Emboar
    Tornadus – Emboar
    Toxicroak – Ursaring
    Typhlosion – Stunfisk
    Tyranitar – Emboar
    Umbreon – Emboar
    Vaporeon – Toxic from Jellicent? (Jellicent now has Ice Beam so idk D
    Venusaur – Ursa
    Virizion – Emboar
    Victini – Ursa
    Volcarona – Emboar
    Whimsicott – Would probably switch in magnezone
    Xatu – Stunfisk
    Yanmega – Emboar
    Zapdos – Emboar

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    Overall I believe my team is pretty good but could still do with some tweaking please help thanks for your time. Also i'm really sorry for my rubbishy pokémon comments, its soo late and it's been a really long day D:

    ~Lionrt60
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    Changes

    I really need some Ice D: I decided to try Ice beam over Toxic on Jellicent as I wasn't using it.


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    Old July 2nd, 2011 (10:17 AM).
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    Well, you're going for the glory here, huh? I applaud you.

    I personally have never been able to run Trick Room effectively, ever. Why? Well, to be honest with you, it's just really really hard to use. First, you have to assume you can get Trick Room off. Any kind of lead (think: Thundurus, Deo-S) is going to try to Taunt you. You might want to try Xatu or something to help stave off the huge Taunt weak and hopefully get Trick Room up more... easily. And once you've got Trick Room up, you've only got about four turns (right? I think so) to manuever and smash the opponent's team as much as you can. But once your time is up, they're basically free to retaliate. The thing that I don't like about Trick Room is that yes, you can get everything rolling in your favor, and then Trick Room ends and you really can't do anything about them counter-sweeping you at that point. You could carry tons of checks for really fast Pokémon, but that'd detract from your offensive synergy that you -need- to get your team to function well. You could carry really fast Pokémon to work well outside of Trick Room, but then when your team is doing what it's supposed to do (ie keep TR up) they're dead weight. Like, for example, once Magnezone is down (or its Balloon is just popped - you rely on it for so many threats that there's literally no way its Balloon will be salvaged through the whole match), Excadrill nabs an easy clean sweep. You could try to carry Conkeldurr which is slow and holds priority, but it has its own weaknesses that you'll have to take into consideration too. Plus, fast offense isn't the only thing that TR has difficulty against - heavy stall/strongly defensive mons are really hard to break, especially considering that TR attackers are generally very one-sided. I dunno, I just believe that TR is at a disadvantage to every other kind of team style because you can't run Pokémon that set up (or else you'll waste TR turns) and you only have that limited time when your team is really usable.

    .......aside from me ranting why I don't like Trick Room, here's a little bit of advice: why not use what's literally the best Trick Room user: Reuniclus? Bulk and power and coverage all come into one, with Magic Guard to prevent status and LO recoil and you really have an amazing abuser of Trick Room.

    Reuniclus @ Life Orb
    Ability: Magic Guard
    Nature: Quiet (+SpA, -Spe)
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Def
    - Trick Room
    - Psychic / Psyshock
    - Shadow Ball
    - Focus Blast
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    Old July 5th, 2011 (5:56 PM).
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      Old July 5th, 2011 (6:09 PM). Edited July 5th, 2011 by Vrai.
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      edit: totally just realized this is -not- the simple questions thread, owell. :(
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      Old July 5th, 2011 (6:24 PM).
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      I definitely agree with Vrai, Reuniclus is awesome and should probably go over Eggy. It's really just much more effective overall...more power, more it's "faster" (under Trick Room) and has much better coverage. It also doesn't struggle with common stuff like Ferrothorn and Latios.
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      Old July 6th, 2011 (11:00 AM).
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        Thanks guys ^^ I appreciate it :P

        - I will go ahead and replace Exeggutor with Reuniclus

        - Should I replace Magnezone with Eviolite Magneton? It would have the same bulk as what i'm running, air balloon won't really work and it frees up more evs for SpA, downside is 10 base points higher in speed but really, is that a downside, it outruns everything anyway. (Obviously in Trick Room)

        Also, vrai. I have just realised how right you are about how trick room really doesn't work D:, This team won't be seeing a lot of use likely.
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        Old July 6th, 2011 (2:27 PM).
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          Interesting coverage. I want to test your team. Care for a battle?
           

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