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Started by FreakyLocz14 July 30th, 2011 10:55 PM
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omg no. The Earth has always had some sort of ice cap, even in a warming period. If fact, taking readings from ice cores from the ice caps is one of the reasons we know of such periods.
A glacial period is a period of warming within an ice age. We are currently in an glacial period
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_glaciation

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A glacial period is a period of warming within an ice age. We are currently in an glacial period
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_glaciation

We are in an interglacial period, which means we are between two ice ages, the one before and the one that will most likely happen afterwards.

The whole thing is referred to as an ice age (because we have permanent ice sheets), but we are in the interglacial period.

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We are in an interglacial period, which means we are between two ice ages, the one before and the one that will most likely happen afterwards.

The whole thing is referred to as an ice age (because we have permanent ice sheets), but we are in the interglacial period.
Ah, so you see that the fact that there are permanent ice sheets means that we are technically in an ice age.

Also, an ice age coming up means that we are cooling, not warming.

Glacial periods, interglacial periods, and major ice ages are all parts or an overall ice age.

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We're always in an "ice age". It's just right now we are coming out of one and becoming warmer, not cold.

We are technically between two "ice ages", but what I mean is that we are between two world colding ice ages, not that we aren't in one right now.

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So we started with NASA and now we're at what an ice age is... ok then... So to clear things up!

ice age
1. Any of several cold periods during which glaciers covered much of the Earth.
2. Ice Age. The most recent glacial period, which occurred during the Pleistocene Epoch and ended about 10,000 years ago. During the Pleistocene Ice Age, great sheets of ice up to two miles thick covered most of Greenland, Canada, and the northern United States as well as northern Europe and Russia.


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We're always in an "ice age". It's just right now we are coming out of one and becoming warmer, not cold.

We are technically between two "ice ages", but what I mean is that we are between two world colding ice ages, not that we aren't in one right now.
Yes, as we come out an ice age, we naturally warm up. The warming won't be permanent. Another ice age is coming.

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A glacial period is a period of warming within an ice age. We are currently in an glacial period
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_glaciation
A glacial period is an ice age, it's just the end of one. In the very same link you used as a reference:

"In popular culture, there is often reference to "the next ice age."[25] Technically, since the earth is already in an ice age at present, this usually refers to the next glacial period (because the earth is currently in an interglacial period)."

I don't see how we can be going into an ice age when we're technically already in one. And I find it really hilarious how all your sources have been either proven wrong or just aren't credible.

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Yes, I know. But at the moment we aren't cooling, we are warming.
The global climate naturally warms and cools. I'm not disputing that. What I am disputing is those that claim our climate change is man-made.

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I hope you realize ice ages and global warming have nothing to do with each other.

Ice Ages are a period in history when ice sheets spread across the earth more then average, and temperatures lower.

Global warming is the theory that the earth is warming because more greenhouse gasses are being trapped in our atmosphere.

One is obviously natural and the other is argued to be made be man.

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I hope you realize ice ages and global warming have nothing to do with each other.

Ice Ages are a period in history when ice sheets spread across the earth more then average, and temperatures lower.

Global warming is the theory that the earth is warming because more greenhouse gasses are being trapped in our atmosphere.

One is obviously natural and the other is argued to be made be man.
That's the argument. I presented findings that most heat is released into space rather than stay trapped in the atmosphere.
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Are your referring to the first post? The article itself shows Spencer's hypothesis and then offers the refutations from the rest of the scientific community:

Other climate scientists disagreed with Dr. Spencer's recent findings spotting flaws and calling his model "unrealistic." The statistical information from the satellites are lacking as Spencer may not have accounted for fluctuations and other variables in the study.

Dr. Andrew Dessler, a Texas A&M University professor in atmospheric science, described Dr. Spencer's report as nothing new nor correct.

"He's taken an incorrect model, he's tweaked it to match observations, but the conclusions you get from that are not correct," said Dessler.
What's worse is Spencer was against global warming way before these findings. Suggesting they're probably right about the bias.

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CO2 has always been released into the atmosphere.
Now you're just completely messing with facts - CO2 has always been released into the atmosphere, but no where near the level as now. Unless if cars, factories, and basically all our technology has always existed.
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CO2 has always been released into the atmosphere.
I meant that because of us, there is a much bigger increase, which makes the two periods have different climates, which therefore means you can't compare the two.

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I felt this was somewhat relevant. I guess Fox News finally figured out their real competition.

Scientists aren’t divided on whether or global warming is manmade. A 2009 poll of earth scientists found that 82% of them believe that human activity has been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures. 97% of climatologists agreed that human activity is a significant factor in global temperatures, but only 47% of petroleum geologists believed that human activity was a large factor.

It is not too surprising that those scientists who are employed by the oil industry would doubt the validity of global warming. The petroleum industry, business groups, and conservative think tanks, all of which have a financial interest in denying global warming has been churning out their propaganda for almost 20 years.
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Nice hole? Yes.

Man-made? That's disputable.
I believe it's man-made because, simply, so many CFCs have found their way into the ozone layer and depleted it since they have been used so much. Though there are natural events that can cause this, they only do so in the presence of CFCs. This page says that aerosols produced by things like volcanoes "only increased depletion because of the presence of CFC."

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Nice hole? Yes.

Man-made? That's disputable.
Because continent-sized holes in the Ozone layer really just appear out of nowhere. 3rd Science is calling, you may want to brush up.

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Because continent-sized holes in the Ozone layer really just appear out of nowhere. 3rd Science is calling, you may want to brush up.
It's man-made, yet the hole just happens to be over the one continent without any permanent human settlements. Right...

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It's man-made, yet the hole just happens to be over the one continent without any permanent human settlements. Right...
"Polar regions get a much larger variation in sunlight than anywhere else, and during the 3 months of winter spend most of time in the dark without solar radiation. Temperatures hover around or below -80'C for much of the winter and the extremely low antarctic temperatures cause cloud formation in the relatively ''dry''stratosphere. These Polar Stratospheric Clouds (PSC's) are composed of ice crystals that provide the surface for a multitude of reactions, many of which speed the degredation of ozone molecules." -NASA

I highly doubt gases are confined to directly above human settlements once they get into the atmosphere.


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It's man-made, yet the hole just happens to be over the one continent without any permanent human settlements. Right...
I doubt anything released into the atmosphere is obligated to stay in a specific place once it's there. :shocked:

This is rude; he probably didn't see the second post. You're acting like he's got something against you, or that he is making some arbitrary remark. Beyond that Global Warming has been denounced as a "hoax" in order for big corporations, that have ties with congressman, to protect their assets so that they can ignore their contribution to global warming and pollution, to make more money.
W-what? o_o I don't think it was rude to point it out to him, and I know he didn't attack me at all. I added the smilie to be as non confrontational as possible. But Live, if you're somehow offended, that's not what I was aiming to do!

And I never said global warming wasn't real, I've said just the opposite in this thread. xD