Global Warming Page 4

Started by FreakyLocz14 July 30th, 2011 10:55 PM
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So the hole was created by too much sunlight.
"These Polar Stratospheric Clouds (PSC's) are composed of ice crystals that provide the surface for a multitude of reactions, many of which speed the degredation of ozone molecules."

"These Polar Stratospheric Clouds (PSC's) are composed of ice crystals that provide the surface for a multitude of reactions, many of which speed the degredation of ozone molecules."

"These Polar Stratospheric Clouds (PSC's) are composed of ice crystals that provide the surface for a multitude of reactions, many of which speed the degredation of ozone molecules."

You honestly sound like you're trying not to read, or trying not to understand what's being said. What it was saying is that the gases spread across the atmosphere no matter where they're released, but affect Antarctica the most because of the cloud formations there causing more reactions that degrade the ozone layer. Deoxys121 explained earlier that this happens because of reactions in the atmosphere between what we produce and what is already there, which supports the fact that Antarctica had cloud formations that increase reactions which is why the ozone layer is thinnest there.


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"These Polar Stratospheric Clouds (PSC's) are composed of ice crystals that provide the surface for a multitude of reactions, many of which speed the degredation of ozone molecules."

"These Polar Stratospheric Clouds (PSC's) are composed of ice crystals that provide the surface for a multitude of reactions, many of which speed the degredation of ozone molecules."

"These Polar Stratospheric Clouds (PSC's) are composed of ice crystals that provide the surface for a multitude of reactions, many of which speed the degredation of ozone molecules."

You honestly sound like you're trying not to read, or trying not to understand what's being said. What it was saying is that the gases spread across the atmosphere no matter where they're released, but affect Antarctica the most because of the cloud formations there causing more reactions that degrade the ozone layer. Deoxys121 explained earlier that this happens because of reactions in the atmosphere between what we produce and what is already there, which supports the fact that Antarctica had cloud formations that increase reactions which is why the ozone layer is thinnest there.
Be it the sun or the clouds, those are all natural causes.

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Be it the sun or the clouds, those are all natural causes.
No, you don't understand. Let's try this again, and try thinking really hard because you're obviously not understanding it, and it doesn't seem like a very hard concept tbh.

The clouds do not cause the hole. The sun does not cause the hole. What causes the hole are the reactions. The reactions are caused by what we release into the air. The reason it affects Antarctica particularly strongly is because of the clouds. The clouds do not cause anything; they only amplify what we have done. It happens all over the world as well, it's just much stronger in Antarctica because of the clouds. If we continue the way we are and ignore the hole and don't change our habits, the entire world will be thinned out the same way.

Think of the clouds as a catalyst to a reaction. The reaction happens anyway, with or without the catalyst, the catalyst just makes it happen faster. We are adding the ingredients to this reaction; the reaction is caused by us.

If the reaction was solely the clouds or sun, the hole wouldn't have rapidly appeared just now; the sun and clouds have been there since the beginning of time. Now that you've reached the end of this post (at least I hope you read the entire thing, but I can't guarantee you did before hitting reply), go back to the top and re-read it. Make sure you understand what I'm saying before you reply, because it's frustrating having to post the same thing 3 different ways because you keep replying without a full grasp of what's being said.


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So the hole was created by too much sunlight.
Wait, so let me get this straight. The hole was created by too much sunlight in a place where the sun doesn't shine for a fourth of the year and for another fourth where it is significantly less intense? I see nothing wrong with that logic. Also, in regards to your post where you said it can't be human causes because there are no human settlements there - I don't know if you know this but the atmospheric gases do move. And there are settlements

Think about it like this. If you fart, does the fart stay right next to your butt and no one can smell it unless their nose is right next to your butt? You're saying that's the case.

Also if it were caused by too much sunlight, the ozone layer would be thinned out everywhere except the poles - especially at the equator which it's not (well, it is significantly thinner across the entire planet but not to the degree as the southern pole).
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The problem here is the misnomer of the 'Global Warming' title. It's Climate change. Places that normally don't get very hot, get suddenly scorching. And likewise, areas that normally don't experience extreme cold, will suddenly be buried under feet of snow and subzero temperatures.

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Global warming is suppose to refer to the overall planet warmth (which does happen). That's why it's global. Climate change is suppose to be a political neutral term and it's also very vague.
Being vague is the only way to be accurate in this case though. Global warming is accurate if you know what it really means, which most people don't so it's more misleading than just Climate Change.

Global warming, it's when the entire planet on average experiences a rise in temperature. But, there will be places that experience a huge rise, but there will also be places that experience a huge fall. Such as northern Europe - if the ice caps melt northern Europe will no longer be a temperate climate. Since the ocean current is what delivers the heat up north that far and it will shut down with all the access sea water. It would be more like northern Canada. It'd be extremely cold for most the year and warm in the summer months.

It won't be cold like the tundra or ice caps though. Just cold.
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Being vague is the only way to be accurate in this case though. Global warming is accurate if you know what it really means, which most people don't so it's more misleading than just Climate Change.
But it is accurate and it is the commonly excepted term for it. Climate change just refers to a change in the climate and is often used to refer to things other then global warming. That's why it's politically neutral.