Feedback, Questions and Recommendations Thread [V.2]

Started by Netto Azure September 2nd, 2011 1:19 PM
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Feedback, Questions, & Suggestions


Other Trivia is a big section, and it's not always so easy to listen/hear to the voices of members when it comes to game/event ideas and the rules. So with this thread, Peachy and I hope you be able to hear more of your voices, and respond in the best way possible!

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Feedback

Is there something that Peaches and I should do to make our modding better? Have feedback to a suggestion that has been posted here? This thread isn't just for the member giving the suggestion to get feedback from the mods, but to also receive feedback and the opinions of other members as well. We would love to receive as much feedback as possible, to hear the voices from everyone.

Questions

Have something on your mind that is bothering you? Have a thread idea but not sure to post it? Go ahead and ask us any questions relating to Other Trivia. BinaryPeaches and I will do out best to answer them as quickly and as best as possible. If you have any questions about this thread itself, so ahead and ask here as well.

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NOTE: This double post is made to make it easier for you guys to know the topic I'm asking.

Both me and BinaryPeaches have discussed how it might be a good time to introduce a staple forum game that has gained popularity the past decade. That game is called "Mafia."

Main Page - MafiaWiki

The game is played by a group of people, each playing the role of either a murdering mafia member or an innocent townsperson, along with a game moderator. At the beginning of the game, night falls, and the mafia family members become aware of each other (by communication from the moderator). They then choose a victim, and the moderator announces the death scene. When day breaks, the town must try to weed out the evil by lynching someone they suspect to be mafia. The game continues, alternating between night and day, until one side is eliminated.

Melody

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In my opinion this might work better if we have a vB bot running the mafia thread. Dunno if there exist any vB usable mafia bots...and such a game can screech to a halt if the Mafia member, or the moderator goes MIA for any reason. I see no reason to run something that complex outside of IRC where all communication is real-time anyway.

We don't need more ways for you two to be able to hand out infractions...and a game like this can get that way fast, especially if say...the moderator of the game vanishes.

Not to mention people can be pretty riled up about the Mafia game if they find out who keeps "Killing" them off.

alisaie

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I have a question for you before I answer anything you said Pachy: Have you ever seen a Mafia game on Forums? I've seen some, and while some haven't worked out as well, I've also seen a few that have gone on for many rounds. How are we going to know what'll happen if we don't even try it.

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Seems like a lot of fun to me! Like BinaryPeaches said, we never know how it'll work out before we try, so I'm in for that. If everyone sticks to the rules then I don't see why there should be a problem - and sticking to the rules is something you have to do anyway.

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In my opinion this might work better if we have a vB bot running the mafia thread. Dunno if there exist any vB usable mafia bots...and such a game can screech to a halt if the Mafia member, or the moderator goes MIA for any reason. I see no reason to run something that complex outside of IRC where all communication is real-time anyway.

We don't need more ways for you two to be able to hand out infractions...and a game like this can get that way fast, especially if say...the moderator of the game vanishes.

Not to mention people can be pretty riled up about the Mafia game if they find out who keeps "Killing" them off.
There are two mods to this forum, and they're both active. I don't think there's going to be a problem of them being able to keep up. I also don't understand your infraction point - you don't want a game because the game has rules? I don't understand your logic there, every game has rules. Will you disagree with every game that has a single rule that can be broken because it's another way for an infraction to happen? o_O;

I personally probably wouldn't participate because forum games generally aren't my kind of thing, but I still think this is a good idea. Besides, worst case scenario, it doesn't work and after a few rounds it stops. No harm done, right?


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The one thing I'm worried about is how are people going to remember the game. Is the host going to prod them every stage to make sure that they still remember? The key word is activity from both sides.

hmm. I seem to have been ninja'ed.

Well, this would attract the HP fans, but it would need a lot of advertising to work.
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alisaie

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Don't worry. We're concerned about the issue, and we're planning on advertising this quite a bit, least for the first game. We're definitely going to have a blog up and an announcement here in Other Trivia. If we can, we might even see about getting an announcement that can be shown throughout the whole forum (one of those that you can close. Yeah one of those ones).

As for the activity issue I'm sure the host of the game will have ideas to keep people around and active. One of the first rules of Mafia is to definitely stick around. Mafia has worked quite wonderfully in other forums, and we won't know how it's going to work out here until we give it a go, right? :D

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Yeah, of the many mafia games I played, the ones here in PC didn't really get to the point where someone wins. They all sort of fade away after some time, it wasn't everyone's cup of tea. Everyone's activity is important, if someone does not reply after a decent amount of time (like 2 mafia days) then they should either be kicked from the game or replaced immediately unless there were any reasons given. That's how most of the games I've played went. No-one wanted to be kicked out/replaced so they were all active and kept playing the game and such.

So yeah, kudos for the HP-theme. ;)

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That sounds like a fun idea.

I've never played very many forum games with continuity before, where you have to check back, but I say go for it.

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Well I hope it goes well this time. I'm always up for such a game. Thinking back, this is where the thread subscription feature comes in handy.

Also, I'm really curious about the concept. Is it going to be similar to Zeffy's or...?
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alisaie

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I'm not too sure how the Harry Potter one is going to be running; the person who will be running the mafia is probably setting it up. He runs another mafia game on another forum among real life things, but after setting it up he said he could easily run the game since that's the easy part; the hard part is setting it up [s]and getting participants, but that's Netto's and my job).

alisaie

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Hi guys! Instead of creating a whole new thread, I'm just going to open this guy up (why on earth it was never opened when Netto locked it before it beyond me) and just jump the 'FEEDBACK PLZ' bandwagon. I'll be editing the thread title to compensate this, don't worry. But for the time being, if anyone has any ideas/thoughts/feedback on Other Trivia and how to change/improve it, we would love to hear it! Just y'know... give us something to work with, and not something like "you guys suck i hate this place."

Thanks!

(As a note, don't mention the mafia. no idea what's going on with that.)

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Um, I don't know if this'll help much because I don't have an idea of how to make a difference but... OT seems to mainly consist of rating/something about the above poster and counting games. I think we need something else in the mix, yeah?
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Um, I don't know if this'll help much because I don't have an idea of how to make a difference but... OT seems to mainly consist of rating/something about the above poster and counting games. I think we need something else in the mix, yeah?
I think the prevalence of these is due to the relatively lower effort these types of games involve compared to other types.
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alisaie

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Eh. I wholeheartedly agree with Anna here. I have... my own things against the rating threads these days, but I'll keep those to myself. But besides that, I would love to see more games that aren't just rating games myself. If others don't think of any games like that, I'll try to think of some/revive some that aren't rating threads.

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I was scanning the old old games a few days ago and mainly saw quiz games and PC family threads. :| Although Throw Something At A Member was weirdly popular, as were café threads.

also i made a game
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I really enjoyed the nightclub, but then I took a vacation and when I got it got abandoned. XD

I agree with Anna & Peaches, most of the games here are almost identical, with a few differences in the rules. Don't go touching the song rating thread though! That one actually requires effort!!

I also think that this place is quieter then it used to be. A while ago, threads with a last post of 5 days ago were listed on the second page.

Maybe we should create a list of successful games from the past, and check for what made them so successful. Damnit, Anna beat me to it!
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:P I didn't go through many; you're welcome to go investigate. I don't know anything about what happened from like '06 to '09 so... anyone know?

Also, Nightclub... if there's enough interest and people willing to play by the rules then it could probably come back.

As is, though, I'm looking at Whose Line is it Anyway to see if any games from there could be adapted. like Questions Only
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I think we need to promote those kinds of games to keep them from dying. That's the big problem of late with starting anything but a rating thread or any counting game/poster above game that isn't already well established. Anyone can start games that don't fit this mold, but you need to make people aware of them and make people want to put the effort into posting in them.

Maybe there could be an unofficial troupe of members who go from game to game posting in them. Just putting this idea out there for anyone who wants to steal it, as I am not particularly interested in being the leader of such a troupe at this time.

Another suggestion is to have only one of the counting games stickied at a time and have some other game be stickied with that counting game for two weeks before putting the other counting game and another game (I think it'd be better if there were no criteria for this except that it just be a game that one of you two may fancy and think is underrated) as a sticky. Sure, it's more involved, but maybe this could be a duty that just one of you two primarily does (I vote Netto since he tends to come on when things are quieter :P). It would certainly promote more activity all around, ideally. Assuming people don't decry moderator bias.

Also, the One Above could take more effort than some people do put into it (myself included). It's a good game to use to get to know other members better if played properly.

I do remember a King of the Hill game being pretty popular back in the day.
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Yeah uhm... remember what happened the last time someone suggested that only one of the counting games should be stickied? Since they're the only two active now, I think we should keep it as it; I don't want to bother with the whole controversy of the two threads again. :s Even if we switch between the two, I don't think people are going to be particularly happy about the idea. It's something I would have to discuss more with Netto, but that's not going to be happening for a while. Also, to be quite honest I'm not sure if making a game stickied is going to really help anything. It might bring more activity to that certain game at the time, but then we don't know if the game will stay popular (or even become popular once stickied) after it's two weeks, and what would happen with the other games. It's not like OVP in which we can give the creator of the game an emblem or anything.

Right now I just like the idea of more games appearing that aren't Rating Threads. Arma is right in the lack of activity and games; we only have one page of games, when in the past there would be about two or three pages of active games. If we can bump the amount of games up, then perhaps Other Trivia in general would be more active, and it wouldn't just be the rating threads. Though I don't want just effortless games being tossed up. I like the idea of going through the games that were popular in the past, and see about bringing them back.

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Quizzes don't sound like they'd be too terribly bad. But it seems like it would take a lot of effort and a lot of work on the creator(s)'s part to really make them effective and fun to keep going. I mean, the place is called Other TRIVIA, so why not have like a Daily Trivia question for people to answer? It'd be something sorta similar to what PT has with WTP, only more general. Movie, book, TV quotes... math problems... just some different form of trivia each day would be fun, I think. I dunno though.

I also kinda miss the threads like the "Best Forum Section" threads where ya had the tallies and everything. Haven't been really active enough to check this place out lately, but from what I've seen, those have sorta lost their popularity and died.

Still another suggestion I'd like to throw out there once again is with the two counting threads. Change those up once in awhile. For TCTI, have it be where they count down for a day or something. For DLTMS0, have a day where it's Don't Let the MEMBERS say Zero. Might attract more life to those threads, which may not be the point, but it'd give them a little flare. Might even give some staff members reason to try and see how high they can get the count in a day. I don't know. But there's possibilities of taking what we already have and just... tweaking them. Seems to me like it'd make things more interesting at least with what is already here.
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Kiel

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I think the fact that OT is as it is, is due to the fact that most of the threads here don't need that much effort into them.

But yeah there's OVP and OC for thinking stuff but whatever.

Anyways Quiz games sound nice, but the problem is who/how to run it...

Spoiler:

Which brings us to the next problem. Main reason Mafia isn't up and running is because it wholly depends on one or two people running it. It's a fairly time consuming task, needing a dedicated person to check the decisions each person makes and post up updates in a fan-fic setting EVERY DAY lol. And the person I contracted to start the mafia game is way too busy at the moment to do it hahahaha. xD


So yeah, if ANYONE wants to do something, please contact me and we'll hatch things up after my DLOA ends Jan. 7.