Those pesky HM's

Started by mikey September 11th, 2011 11:27 AM
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mikey

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So, im sure everyone here knows about HM's. They're necessary for completing all the games.

So,
Which HM is your favorite?
Which HM is your least favorite?
What do you think about HM's in general?


My answers;
Which HM is your favorite?
Fly

Which HM is your least favorite?
Rock Smash

What do you think about HM's in general?

I think they're pretty pointless. I also hate that you can't delete HM moves after teaching them to a Pokemon unless you go to the Move Deleter.

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Which HM is your favorite?

Fly. It pretty makes the Flying type mandatory on a runthrough.

Which HM is your least favorite?

I hate them all equally. Expect for Fly, it's awesome.

What do you think about HM's in general?


I find them pretty useless and irritate more that help. I did like the b/w did implement as (almost) optional.

Chiar

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Which HM is your favorite?
Surf. It's basically the only useful one.
Which HM is your least favorite?
Cut. In B/W, it has the same power and less accuracy & PP than Tackle. I also despise Rock Smash, Flash and Whirpool.
What do you think about HM's in general?
I don't like them. The fill up movesets and you can't forget them until around the 6th badge.

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Which HM is your favorite?
Waterfall always has a special place in my heart. I loved how you had to get it in G/S

Which HM is your least favorite?
I don't really hate any of them, but if I was forced to, I'd say Defog, purely because I never really used it when it was one, I like randomly walking and hoping I'm going the right way (Flash at least had some purpose in battle with lowering accuracy, Defog had little)

What do you think about HM's in general?
Personally, I don't mind them. They are low in number at least, if they ever went above 10, then it'd be overkill, but at the moment, I have little complaints.


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Which HM is your favorite?
Surf, it's useful,and i always have a water-type
Which HM is your least favorite?
I always disliked the Flash/Defog set, they're useless to me, and only serve the purpose of ridding a minor annoyance.
What do you think about HM's in general?
I guess I wouldn't get rid of them if I had the choice, they make you make a tough decision, and therefore make the game a bit more challenging.
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Which HM is your favorite?
Fly and Surf are my favorites, mainly because they're actually good moves.
Which HM is your least favorite?
Everything that's not Fly or Surf.
What do you think about HM's in general?
Really, I would love the game without them (Except for Surf and Fly). I liked what they did in BW where the only one you really needed to complete the game was Surf. I hope they do that in the next gen too.
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Which HM is your favorite?
Surf is my favourite, It allows you to skim across water, travel to new places, it also is a useful battle move with a base power of 95.

Which HM is your least favorite?
Cut, I really despise cut, its an ugly move with no real purpose than to get trees out of the way, luckily it isn't used in a major way in Black/White.

What do you think about HM's in general?
I think HM's shouldn't be implemented in game, it should rely on your skill or items that you have to overcome obstacles. But that would be too complex and so HM's are here -_- ...
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Which HM is your favorite?
Surf, Waterfall, Fly.

Which HM is your least favorite?
Cut, Strength, or Rock Smash

What do you think about HM's in general?
Decent idea, some of the moves are good, but I hate having to take forever to delete them.

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My favorite HM is Surf, my least favorites are everything but Surf. I don't like Fly because it's a two-turn move (I'd rather go for moves like Aerial Ace), and the others are just bleh (minus Waterfall; it's pretty good for physical waters like Feraligatr and Gyarados).

I find them pointless and unneeded in general. What really got me was HGSS, where you can't even get to Red unless you have 4 different HMs taught to your team members. I had to leave out my sixth member because I needed to bring an HM slave. =_=

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Which HM is your favorite?
Though funny to say, Cut is my favorite HM. I like the overall action and animations assigned to it, and also that it's the most earnest early on and most undervalued later on HM in the games. It's still bad as a move to use in battle, though.
Which HM is your least favorite?
Flash, actually. Starting off at gen II, I was annoyed with how Flash worked and on gen III I completely dumped it because I could pass anything that needed Flash without it. Also I never favored its battle use.
What do you think about HM's in general?
Despite how many others think, they're an essential part of the gameplay. They're actually something like 'key attacks' that are used to eliminate blockers. I got used to them after a while and just accepted their role.
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Surf, Fly, and Dive would have to be my favorites due to the Surf and Fly being mostly if not entirely necessary at some point not to mention they're pretty cool to have by themselves if you ask me. Dive because the diving music in RSE is good enough to warrant it lol.

Least favorites would have to be every other HM.

I don't have much of an opinion about HMs though but they should be forgettable like with TMs upon replacing one of them for a new move.

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Ok.
Which HM is your favorite?
Waterfall <3
Which HM is your least favorite?
All but Waterfall and Fly. And the most annoying was Flash :@ (at least, now is a TM).
What do you think about HM's in general?
Useless, pointless and a waste of slots on your Pokemon. Come on GF, you can do something better than HM's, right?
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Which HM is your favorite?
Fly. By far the most usfully as the game would take many more hours than it does with it. Very close second is surf. A very strong move that lets you acess tons of new places.

Which HM is your least favorite?
I actually like rock smash. I don't like waterfall/whirlpool/dive though. They seem pointless as I think waterpokemon should be able to naturally cross/climb/dive water obstacles. Rather than dive replace it with an item like oxygen tank and make it so I'm not wasting moves on my only water pokemon. In the S.S anne episode squirtle could automatticly climb the "waterfall".

What do you think about HM's in general?
Some I find extremly helpful (Fly,Surf) while others I don't (water HMs besides surf). Personally I missed alot of HMs while playing through games (Waterfall in White Rocksmash in Emerald, Cut in Pearl)and don't think the should be in the games. I DO THINK however they should be reqular moves pokemon can learn via TM or level up.
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Favorite HMs: Surf, Fly, Waterfall. They're useful for navigating the field.

Least favorite HMs: Defog. Simply put: useless in-battle, and fog is annoying when it's in an important area, like in Turnback Cave.

What I think about HMs: I would've liked it if some of the HMs (like Rock Smash before it became a TM again and Whirlpool in HG/SS) had higher base powers.

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Favorite HM for convenience is Fly. Surf is superior in battle, though.

My least favorites are Rock Climb and Defog as both are completely useless in battle and annoyances when you have to carry around Pokemon knowing those dumb moves just to get through an area.

I never liked HM's since I never use HM slaves. I have to give up move slots in my main party to have them equipped on my team. I especially don't like having multiple water-based HM's since that takes moveslots away from my Water-type's move roster.

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My favorite HM would have to be Surf because of it's useful in and out of battle.

My least favorite, as an HM, was Rock Smash because of it not being a move I used regularly enough in battles(since you can't have it deleted until later in the game). It's fine as a regular Tm though, imo, since I do like it's use in the games.
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Which HM is your favorite? Fly and surf equally, they're both very good moves and used a lot out of battle - plus Waterfall is very good too but not useful much outside of battles.

Which HM is your least favorite? Defog, it's utterly useless in every way. :p

What do you think about HM's in general? They're okay, Fly is useful and so's surf, but with the rest I think they should be optional to progress so that you don't have to give your team pointless moves. :3 Maybe only used for getting elusive items or just get rid of them all together...

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Which HM is your favorite?
In every game before 5th Gen, Surf. But now that it hurts your teammates as well..ehh...I dunno. It at least makes sense, but isn't as convenient anymore unless your teammate has water absorb or soemthing. Then 'tis really useful.

Which HM is your least favorite?
Rock smash. Always. >.> Pitiful damage, even against things it's super effective against. Or Defog/Flash. Barely ever use any of them unless I HAVE to anyways.

What do you think about HM's in general?
They're terribly inconvenient and I wish we didn't need them. It'd be nice if pokemon learned these abilities separately, not as moves that cannot be deleted.
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My Favorite HM: Probably Waterfall to be honest, it's kinda hard to use properly but if you can, it's just a really cool move. Surf is second favorite.

Least Favorite: Cut. BW only ever made you use one HM, and it had to be Cut. Why couldn't they have forced you to use Waterfall or Surf, or something that's a little better?

If cut and rock smash would just.... go away I wouldn't mind the whole concept of HMs (although I know they changed Rock Smash to a TM)
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Which HM is your favorite?
Gotta be Fly or Surf.
Which HM is your least favorite?
Flash or Cut I think. I liked them when I play Crystal for the first time though, but after then they just bug me.
What do you think about HM's in general?

It's cool, using moves in real life situations. But the fact that they just increase the number of these and there's only 4 moves to teach to a Pokémon makes it a little hard which is great but also irritating.


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Which HM is your favorite?
Fly, useful and is actually a good move in battle, too

Which HM is your least favorite?
Cut, totally pointless -_-

What do you think about HM's in general?
I think the whole concept of HMs is stupid and pointless. :| If I have a flying pokemon, it can fly regardless of whether it has Fly or not, just like water pokemon can swim whether they have Surf or not, etc. HMs should simply be tied to the pokemon and be useable if the pokemon would be able to use it once you acquire the required Gym badge. I hate having to take up part of their moveset with worthless moves just to get around in the environment. -_-

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Which HM is your favorite?
Fly. It helps me get everywhere~ <3
Which HM is your least favorite?
Flash. Why was that ever a HM?
What do you think about HM's in general?
They're helpful, but I wish they were a little more convenient. :( HM slaves aren't my thing, and I don't like wasting move-slots. Double whammy.

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Which HM is your favorite?
Surf. Great move and easily used outside of battle.

Which HM is your least favorite?
Cut... weak and not really useful in general. I also dislike Flash. It's usually used for like one cave in the whole game and you never need it again.

What do you think about HM's in general?
I wish they would remove a few. Others are interesting, but having them in waste slots in a moveset is a hassle, so I always have at least one HM Slave, therefore filling up a spot in my party.