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Old December 28th, 2004 (11:56 PM).
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This is my attempt at a water mono-team with no legends ubers. any help will be helpful and please rate it. There are 3 Physical Sweepers...i don't like that

Starmie (Lum Berry)
Modest Nature
Trait: Natural Cure
109 HP, 128 Def, 137 Spd, 136 Sp. Atk (EV's are messed up but it works)
Ice Beam
Psychic
Recover
Surf

Faints most starter pokemon, sometimes give it quick claw if it is a ninjask first. It is pretty good i guess.

Swampert (Salac Berry) i think it should be chesto berry so i wake up.
Trait: Torrent
Adamant Nature
129 HP, 252 Atk, 63 Def, 66 Sp Def (speed doesn't even help)
Brick Break
Earthquake
Refresh
Rest

For electric types, obviously.

Ludicolo (Leftovers)
Trait: Rain Dish
Bold Nature
252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp. Def (again speed doesnt help)
Attract
Leech Seed
Rain Dance
Seismic Toss

An annoyer...any changes to make?

Gyrados (Salac Berry)
Trait: Intimidate
Adamant Nature
65 HP, 129 Atk, 64 Def, 252 Spd
Taunt
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
HP Flying

Taunt the annoyer, dragon dance on the switch or struggle, then sweep away.

Lapras (Leftovers) The Physical sweeper i want to change
Trait: Shell Armor (or Water Absorb?)
Adamant Nature
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Def
Confuse Ray
Dragon Dance
Return
HP Ghost

Confuse Ray, Dragon Dance while hopefully hurts themselves, then sweep

Vaporeon (Lum Berry)
Trait: Water Absorb
Bold Nature
64 HP, 129 Def, 129 Spd, Sp. Atk
Haze
Surf
Toxic
Attract

Hazer/it can survive hits from an Aerodactyl (and most other things) then surf it and it faints.
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Old December 29th, 2004 (1:00 AM).
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Starmie - give it Rapid Spin over Psychic, at least giving you the ability to fight back against spikers. Halts Skarmory dead in it's tracks, since Toxic won't work for long (Natural Cure), and you have Thunderbolt to take out that metal bird. Leftovers over Lum Berry please.

Swampert: Curse is the order of the day here:

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EV: HP, Att, minor Sp Att, minor Sp Def
Nature: + Att, - Speed
Curse
Earthquake
Rest
Surf/Ice Beam

Mixed Cursepert covers a lot of types.

Ludicolo - Rain Dish is useless, throw it away for Swift Swim:

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EV: minor HP, Sp Att, Speed
Nature: + Sp Att, - Att
Rain Dance
Surf/Hydro Pump
Ice Beam/Leech Seed
Giga Drain/HP Grass/Toxic

Gyarados - standard. Leftovers over Salac, or maybe Liechi, not like he needs the extra speed

Lapras - you are joking, right?

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EV: HP, Sp Att, Sp Def, minor Def
Nature: + Sp Att, - Att
Surf/Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt/Thunder
Roar/Confuse Ray/Rest

You have no idea how annoying a roaring Lapras can be until you face one. Thunder to go with Rain Dance from someone for Thunderdancing, otherwise it's fairly standard.

Vaporeon - I'd consider Wish for this team:

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EV: HP, Def, Sp Att, minor Sp Def
Nature: + Def/Sp Def, - Att
Surf
Toxic
Haze
Wish

I'm surprised at the lack of Lanturn for electric protection, or some Swift Swimmers like Omastar (forget Kingdra). Considering your lack of physical attackers, perhaps Kabutops may help somewhere.
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Old December 29th, 2004 (7:02 PM).
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thanks a lot for the help. Now i like the lanturn idea. My question is what i should give it. Also, who should i replace for Lanturn?

I was thinking:

Lanturn (Chesto Berry)
Trait:Volt Absorb
Nature: Bold
Surf
Thunderbolt
Rest
(some filler move)

i dont think it is that good but what would you do?
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Old December 29th, 2004 (7:48 PM).
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Take out Vaporeon, for Lanturn.

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Nature:Modest
EVs:252 Sp. attack, 129 Speed, 129 HP
Ice Beam
T-bolt
Surf
Confuse Ray

Here's an idea for Lanturn.
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Old December 29th, 2004 (11:10 PM).
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Why is it that you people like to put an odd number of EVs into stats? The EVs only work if it is a multiple of 4 ._.

4,8,12,16,20,24,28,32...etc...
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Old December 30th, 2004 (8:56 AM).
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of course. more characters more characters
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Old December 30th, 2004 (2:03 PM).
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Why is it that you people like to put an odd number of EVs into stats? The EVs only work if it is a multiple of 4 ._.

4,8,12,16,20,24,28,32...etc...
Well, because 252/252 leaves 6 left, so just put them all in, or just leave the extra 2 out, it doesn't really matter, or with that Lanturn I posted, 252 EVS in one stat leaves 258 EVs, so that means to even out two other stats you put in 129 EVs into each one. :D
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Old December 30th, 2004 (2:34 PM).
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This is my attempt at a water mono-team with no legends ubers. any help will be helpful and please rate it. There are 3 Physical Sweepers...i don't like that

Starmie (Lum Berry)
Modest Nature
Trait: Natural Cure
109 HP, 128 Def, 137 Spd, 136 Sp. Atk (EV's are messed up but it works)
Ice Beam
Psychic
Recover
Surf
EVs: 108 HP / 128 Atk / 138 Spd / 136 SAtk

My revision gives an extra speed point. Errors like these are all over the team. That's what Kholdstaire was talking about.
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