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Old February 29th, 2012 (7:53 AM).
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    You can find Charmander here:


    As for the abilities, I'm open to any suggestions so if you have any just let me know, I'll try and fix Route 119.
    Thats the spot where i don't seem to get it. I click in front of that tall grass and nothing happens or walk in and click.

    As for abilities, what about Blaziken having Speed boost as secondary? Like in the 5th gen. Not sure if that can be done.
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    Old February 29th, 2012 (8:17 AM). Edited February 29th, 2012 by Blue.
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    I can add second abilities, I'll do it during my next update.

    Also, try here now:



    Just download the attachment (It's still named 7.1 but it's been slightly edited/tweaked)
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      I can add second abilities, I'll do it during my next update.

      Also, try here now:



      Just download the attachment (It's still named 7.1 but it's been slightly edited/tweaked)
      Well i went there but all i see is an invisible block where the pokeball is suppose to be. There is something but cant be picked up or touched.
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      Old February 29th, 2012 (9:44 AM).
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        This Game looks very Promising. And i will definitely send reply after i have played the game. And thanx for putting in your time for us. Thank you on behalf of everyone that plays this game.
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          As for the abilities, I'm open to any suggestions so if you have any just let me know.

          Despite losing chlorophyll, drought would also suit bellossom. It has several pokedex entries talking about it's dance to summon the sun.

          I had a few ideas but at the moment I've forgotten them all

          Man... if you give blaziken speed boost and bellossom drought i'll have to restart the game from scratch for a 4th time. This might be the most invested in a hack i've ever been. Kudos. I actually care about EVs in this game and that's saying something
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          Despite losing chlorophyll, drought would also suit bellossom. It has several pokedex entries talking about it's dance to summon the sun.

          I had a few ideas but at the moment I've forgotten them all

          Man... if you give blaziken speed boost and bellossom drought i'll have to restart the game from scratch for a 4th time. This might be the most invested in a hack i've ever been. Kudos. I actually care about EVs in this game and that's saying something

          Well.. like I say I don't really pay attention to abilities/secondary abilities so whatever suggestions you have I'm happy to try out and thank-you!


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          This Game looks very Promising. And i will definitely send reply after i have played the game. And thanx for putting in your time for us. Thank you on behalf of everyone that plays this game.
          Anytime, and thanks for the kind words!


          Alright so I took those ideas on and changed some more myself, the following changes to abilities are:

          Bellossom now has the second ability - Drought
          Blaziken now has the second ability - Speed Boost
          Sceptile now has the second ability Chlorophyll
          Swampert now has the second ability - Sturdy
          Magneton now has the second ability - Levitate
          Swellow now has the second ability - Keen Eye
          Miltank now has the second ability - Clear Body
          Donphan now has the second ability - Rock Head
          Huntail now has the second ability - Water Absorb
          Gorebyss now has the second ability - Cute Charm

          ~ Open to more suggestions + planning to add more.

          - These can be downloaed in Beta 7.23!
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            Dream World FTW. Really nice job Suicune. I'll delete my save file to play this hack again.
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              Scizor with Pure Power
              Breloom with Pure Power
              Sharpedo with Speed boost
              Walrein with Water Absorb
              Cacturne with Rough skin (Not sure, just saying since his a cactus maybe some contact can cause some damage.)

              Thats all i have in my brain for now...
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                Well.. like I say I don't really pay attention to abilities/secondary abilities so whatever suggestions you have I'm happy to try out and thank-you!




                Anytime, and thanks for the kind words!


                Alright so I took those ideas on and changed some more myself, the following changes to abilities are:

                Bellossom now has the second ability - Drought
                Blaziken now has the second ability - Speed Boost
                Sceptile now has the second ability Chlorophyll
                Swampert now has the second ability - Sturdy
                Magneton now has the second ability - Levitate
                Swellow now has the second ability - Keen Eye
                Miltank now has the second ability - Clear Body
                Donphan now has the second ability - Rock Head
                Huntail now has the second ability - Water Absorb
                Gorebyss now has the second ability - Cute Charm

                ~ Open to more suggestions + planning to add more.

                - These can be downloaed in Beta 7.23!
                The second abilities aren't working. Spent 20 minutes softresetting and never got a starter torchic with speed boost. Went to the catchable torchic with a trace ralts and after close to 40 resets saw no speedboost. Even tried breeding them and got nothing.
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                Old February 29th, 2012 (3:33 PM). Edited February 29th, 2012 by Tofutheenderman.
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                  The second abilities aren't working. Spent 20 minutes softresetting and never got a starter torchic with speed boost. Went to the catchable torchic with a trace ralts and after close to 40 resets saw no speedboost. Even tried breeding them and got nothing.
                  Because is Blaziken who gets it on evolving...

                  Edit: The 2nd abilities are working fine so far. Just found my first Miltank with Clear Body. The blossom one is not working unless i'm being very unlucky to get the 2nd ability...On the bright side i found Latias out of the farming for Glooms. I was shocked.
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                  The second abilities aren't working. Spent 20 minutes softresetting and never got a starter torchic with speed boost. Went to the catchable torchic with a trace ralts and after close to 40 resets saw no speedboost. Even tried breeding them and got nothing.
                  Yeah, it's only Blaziken who has the speed boost, although I can add it to Torchic/Combusken and do the same with the other starters.
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                    Because is Blaziken who gets it on evolving...

                    Edit: The 2nd abilities are working fine so far. Just found my first Miltank with Clear Body. The blossom one is not working unless i'm being very unlucky to get the 2nd ability...On the bright side i found Latias out of the farming for Glooms. I was shocked.
                    That is extremely troublesome. I can be spending hours/days raising a pokemon without knowing it's proper ability. Dream world pokemon have the same abilities since their first stage so should these.
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                      Here are some suggestions.

                      - Politoed with Drizzle
                      - Ninetales with Drought
                      - Swampert with Swift Swim ( Sturdy is useless, it's unfortuately not like 5th gen which prevents a OHKO
                      - Give Seviper a better movepool / Base Stats. I've always liked Seviper, but it's just too weak for me to use.

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                        Yeah, it's only Blaziken who has the speed boost, although I can add it to Torchic/Combusken and do the same with the other starters.
                        I found a problem. Pokemon like Kunbusken (whatever is spelled) and Gloom (for example) wont learn there 2nd ability wen they evolve, must be something with the scripting or whatever. BUT i found a solution for it. Since gloom can be found in the wild, you can add it Drought and since is by encounter rate it will come out with Drought or its original ability. wen evolved they will keep the ability. But if is there original one they will evolve with that ability. :D

                        Edit: Made the test my self so it works. Clearing what i said. Starter pokemons should have the option of coming out with second or first ability from the first pre-evolution like Torchic ect. Still not sure why can't be out of the random wen you have them already and evolve them but is how is working for me. I found 3 bellosom in the wild. 2 of them had Drought so the ability are working but only if there found in the wild.
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                          I found a problem. Pokemon like Kunbusken (whatever is spelled) and Gloom (for example) wont learn there 2nd ability wen they evolve, must be something with the scripting or whatever. BUT i found a solution for it. Since gloom can be found in the wild, you can add it Drought and since is by encounter rate it will come out with Drought or its original ability. wen evolved they will keep the ability. But if is there original one they will evolve with that ability. :D

                          Edit: Made the test my self so it works. Clearing what i said. Starter pokemons should have the option of coming out with second or first ability from the first pre-evolution like Torchic ect. Still not sure why can't be out of the random wen you have them already and evolve them but is how is working for me. I found 3 bellosom in the wild. 2 of them had Drought so the ability are working but only if there found in the wild.
                          well then there's also catchable versions of all the starters as well, so they can specifically have the secondary abilities.

                          But I seriously suggest making the entire line know the ability. In normal pokemon games when a 2nd or 3rd stage pokemon learn different abilities usually the pre-stage pokemon knows a different ability to signify that it's ability will be that. EXAMPLE: in generation4 a tyroge can know guts and steadfast. However when evolved into a hitmontop if that tyroge knew guts its ability will always be intimidate and if its ability used to be steadfast its ability would be technician. so when evolving you could at least predict what ability it would have. i suggest you give some indication of what it's final ability would be or something. Its a bit unfair for us to have to play the game and pray we get lucky.

                          Also a sharpedo with speedboost would be nice as well. to coincide with it's dream would ability.
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                          Alright so I've added some more abilities and one more move change (Beta 7.27)


                          Torchic now has the second ability Speed Boost
                          Combusken now has the second ability Speed Boost
                          Treeko now has the second ability Chlorophyll
                          Grovyle now has the second ability Chlorophyll
                          Mudkip now has the second ability Swift Swim
                          Marshtomp now has the second ability Swift Swim
                          Swampert now has the second ability Swift Swim
                          Scizor now has the second ability Pure Power
                          Breloom now has the second ability Pure Power
                          Tauros now has the second ability Pure Power
                          Stantler now has the second ability Pure Power
                          Altaria now has the second ability Pure Power
                          Pidgeot now has the second ability Guts
                          Carvanha now has the second ability Speed Boost
                          Sharpedo now has the second ability Speed Boost
                          Walrein now has the second ability Water Absorb
                          Cacturne now has the second ability Rough Skin
                          Persian now has the second ability Intimidate


                          Swampert now learns Rain Dance at Level 40 - To tie in with Swift Swim ability
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                          Old February 29th, 2012 (4:38 PM). Edited February 29th, 2012 by Tofutheenderman.
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                            well then there's also catchable versions of all the starters as well, so they can specifically have the secondary abilities.

                            But I seriously suggest making the entire line know the ability. In normal pokemon games when a 2nd or 3rd stage pokemon learn different abilities usually the pre-stage pokemon knows a different ability to signify that it's ability will be that. EXAMPLE: in generation a tyroge can know guts and steadfast. However when evoked into a hitmontop if that tyroge knew guts its ability will always be intimidate and if its ability used to be steadfast its ability would be technician. so when evolving you could at least predict what ability it would have. i suggest you give some indication of what it's final ability would be or something. Its a bit unfair for us to have to play the game and pray we get lucky.

                            Also a sharpedo with speedboost would be nice as well. to coincide with it's dream would ability.
                            This is the problem with evolving with a certain ability. Example: If you found a Torchic with Blaze and evolve it to Combusken it will have Blaze EVEN if its has Speed boost as secondarily ability. Because they ascend there last ability. Now, if you Found a Torchic with Blaze again and evolve it intl Combusken with only speed boost. That will change completely. Is like this also. Blaze-Blaze-Blaze (Blaze-blaze-Speed boost if Blaziken only has speed boost as only option in its ability.) Other wise it wont change ability on its final evolution. Thats why it has to be from Torchic to Combusken and Blaziken with the same line of abilities. So the problem here is having the luck to find that Torchic with Speed boost that will change to Combusken with speed boost and so on. Is is Blaze it will be the same but all ends into Blaze.

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                            Alright so I've added some more abilities and one more move change (Beta 7.27)


                            Torchic now has the second ability Speed Boost
                            Combusken now has the second ability Speed Boost
                            Treeko now has the second ability Chlorophyll
                            Grovyle now has the second ability Chlorophyll
                            Mudkip now has the second ability Swift Swim
                            Marshtomp now has the second ability Swift Swim
                            Swampert now has the second ability Swift Swim
                            Scizor now has the second ability Pure Power
                            Breloom now has the second ability Pure Power
                            Tauros now has the second ability Pure Power
                            Stantler now has the second ability Pure Power
                            Altaria now has the second ability Pure Power
                            Pidgeot now has the second ability Guts
                            Carvanha now has the second ability Speed Boost
                            Sharpedo now has the second ability Speed Boost
                            Walrein now has the second ability Water Absorb
                            Cacturne now has the second ability Rough Skin
                            Persian now has the second ability Intimidate


                            Swampert now learns Rain Dance at Level 40 - To tie in with Swift Swim ability
                            Pidgey and Pidgoto Must have Guts too so they can ascend with the same line to Pegeot. Sycther must have Pure power so it can ascend it wen evolve anything that is already evolved with a 2nd ability there pre-evolution must have it too so we can get them unless the evolution can be found in the wild
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                              Alright so I've added some more abilities and one more move change (Beta 7.27)


                              Torchic now has the second ability Speed Boost
                              Combusken now has the second ability Speed Boost
                              Treeko now has the second ability Chlorophyll
                              Grovyle now has the second ability Chlorophyll
                              Mudkip now has the second ability Swift Swim
                              Marshtomp now has the second ability Swift Swim
                              Swampert now has the second ability Swift Swim
                              Scizor now has the second ability Pure Power
                              Breloom now has the second ability Pure Power
                              Tauros now has the second ability Pure Power
                              Stantler now has the second ability Pure Power
                              Altaria now has the second ability Pure Power
                              Pidgeot now has the second ability Guts
                              Carvanha now has the second ability Speed Boost
                              Sharpedo now has the second ability Speed Boost
                              Walrein now has the second ability Water Absorb
                              Cacturne now has the second ability Rough Skin
                              Persian now has the second ability Intimidate


                              Swampert now learns Rain Dance at Level 40 - To tie in with Swift Swim ability
                              don't forget the oddish gloom and vileplume
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                                don't forget the oddish gloom and vileplume
                                Not sure of they will be needed since you can find a bellosom right off the bat but yeah that too. All i know is that every line must have there 2nd abilities too just to have the line option from start instead of not getting anything from 2nd evolution and so on. Is allot now that i think of it...
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                                  Not sure of they will be needed since you can find a bellosom right off the bat but yeah that too. All i know is that every line must have there 2nd abilities too just to have the line option from start instead of not getting anything from 2nd evolution and so on. Is allot now that i think of it...
                                  think from a newcomers stand point it'll be a pain and tiresome to waste time training oddish. sure bellossom's are catchable but not until late in the game.
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                                    think from a newcomers stand point it'll be a pain and tiresome to waste time training oddish. sure bellossom's are catchable but not until late in the game.
                                    Very true on that statement. But Vio doesn't need drought though. Is why we got Bellossom. But i wont update it tonight because i'm sure by tomorrow we will have another update with the rest of the 2nd abilities. Because having Pegeot with guts wont do anything if we can't have them on out pre-evos. Like what happen with Blaziken, ect.
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                                      Thanks for including my suggestions :]

                                      Do you plan on adding any extra Wally battles? He only gets like 3 battles in the game (Not including rematches), He deserves more, maybe one right before Rustboro/ Verdanturf Tunnel? And maybe one before you battle Team Aqua at the weather institute?
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                                      Not sure of they will be needed since you can find a bellosom right off the bat but yeah that too. All i know is that every line must have there 2nd abilities too just to have the line option from start instead of not getting anything from 2nd evolution and so on. Is allot now that i think of it...
                                      I was supposed to do this but kinda got side-tracked as you can see I did it for the likes of Carvanha/Sharpedo etc. Thanks for pointing this out though.


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                                      Thanks for including my suggestions :]

                                      Do you plan on adding any extra Wally battles? He only gets like 3 battles in the game (Not including rematches), He deserves more, maybe one right before Rustboro/ Verdanturf Tunnel? And maybe one before you battle Team Aqua at the weather institute?
                                      No problem!

                                      I'm definitely planning on adding more Wally battles at one point because I agree there should be more, the last time I attempted it everything failed so I'll give it another shot soon and try and get another two or three in reasonable places.
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                                        One Question. Is the save compatible with every new beta of your hack, or must i restart the game?
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                                        I've fixed and gave the abilities to the Pre-evolutions of the Pokémon of those who gained new second abilities.

                                        I've also given Vileplume a separate new ability considering Bellossom, Gloom & Oddish gained one and that is Marvel Scale (Boosts Defense by 50% when under a status ailment)

                                        This update was uploaded just before this post, it is just under the same name (Beta 7.27)
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