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[...] Heck, it beat Mudkip. [...]
Sick of all those Mudkip meme references lol, come on.

Anyways I don't really care, I wanted Shroomish to win but since I knew that wouldn't happen anyway, it didn't really matter to me. It just sucks that Arceus has absolutely no use for this.

No one was saying they were more important. Arceus is also extremely easy to find. And, this works both ways - why should yours be considered more important than anyone elses?
I never said that. Take your whining elseshere, 'kay?
Also, an Arceus may be easy to obtain for you, but countless people are having trouble getting their hands on one of their own.
Having a Pokemon that's already been released by Nintendo win, without a DW ability, is stupid, no mater how you try to justify it.
And why would it be stupid?
This is a poll to see what Pokémon is wanted the most. All I can see in your post is that you're whining because you didn't get the Pokémon you want.

Also, go whine at the Darkrai event for Gen. V, go whine at the Victini event over Wi-Fi, go whine at every other Pikachu event, go whine at...
Those were all Pokémon that already were released. And what's wrong with a certain event-only Pokémon being available in more than one event?

Last, this event is the first time those players outside Japan/South Korea/USA/Europe and Australia can get their hands on a legit Arceus of their own.

How about you go generate an actual argument other than "It is stupid because it's stupid" or "It's stupid because I already have one"?
Both of those are not arguments. The second one just sounds like "I'm what counts to Nintendo, event Pokémon should revolve around me."

DW Arceus could at least have Colour Change...or something. :< But whatever. I just don't get why it takes them over 2 months to generate a PKM file, though. >.>
Yes, let's release a crippled Arceus. >_>
But I agree that it shouldn't take them two whole months just to make one Pokémon available as a DW event.

Sick of all those Mudkip meme references lol, come on.
You do realize that Mudkip was second in ranking?
I wasn't making a Mudkipz reference.

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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Nintendo probably aren't going to bend to the whims of people abusing automatic scripts to vote for Pokémon xyz. It's not hard to notice that kind of thing, and because people can't play fair on a silly little poll it's fair enough to not count all those votes.

At the same time, how do you know that there weren't people who had taken the same script and re-purposed it to vote for Arceus instead?

There's two possibilities here that are the opposite of each, and as we have no official word to go by (I would be surprised if Nintendo makes any official statement about the results of the poll, let alone admonishing people using automatic voting procedures) - we don't have anything to say that the results of the poll did not reflect the majority of votes cast. They probably should have linked this to a single vote per PGL account or something but oh well, maybe they'll do that next time (if they ever make another poll like this).

Arceus is still the poster Pokémon of Gen IV, a recent movie mascot, a very powerful legendary and one that not all people still have access to because it never had a legitimate in-game event.
If there was someone voting for Arceus, they were really, really quiet about it since it didn't show up where the Mudkip script originated, it didn't show up where the Ditto script originated, it didn't show up here, sppf, or bmgf. Not denying it's possible but all of those were public and they didn't beat Arceus so it's kind of strange that a hidden one would work.

Although I still think they just deleted all votes from the same IP and then Arceus was the winner out of that. That's a completely legit way to handle it imo, and I wouldn't be surprised if Arceus was going to be the winner if everyone had just voted once.

I never said that. Take your whining elseshere, 'kay?
Also, an Arceus may be easy to obtain for you, but countless people are having trouble getting their hands on one of their own.

And why would it be stupid?
This is a poll to see what Pokémon is wanted the most. All I can see in your post is that you're whining because you didn't get the Pokémon you want.

Also, go whine at the Darkrai event for Gen. V, go whine at the Victini event over Wi-Fi, go whine at every other Pikachu event, go whine at...
Those were all Pokémon that already were released. And what's wrong with a certain event-only Pokémon being available in more than one event?

Last, this event is the first time those players outside Japan/South Korea/USA/Europe and Australia can get their hands on a legit Arceus of their own.

How about you go generate an actual argument other than "It is stupid because it's stupid" or "It's stupid because I already have one"?
Both of those are not arguments. The second one just sounds like "I'm what counts to Nintendo, event Pokémon should revolve around me."


Yes, let's release a crippled Arceus. >_>
But I agree that it shouldn't take them two whole months just to make one Pokémon available as a DW event.


You do realize that Mudkip was second in ranking?
I wasn't making a Mudkipz reference.
Cool your jets. Just like you're fine with Arceus coming out, they're not. They're welcome to their own opinion about it just like you're welcome to yours as long as it's civil, and it's really unnecessary to be so confrontational about a Pokemon poll.

It's probably coming out so much later because they have events all planned out so people are still playing their games regularly. They probably have all the events lined up until February and don't have anything there so they stuck it in there.


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I voted for Blaziken :x even though it's Smogon banned cause Smogon bans only really apply online so if I had one Wi-Fi wouldn't ban it :3;

Who cares! I'd use it on wifi battles anyway (But I prefer infernape...Something about a monkey on fire..it's amazing).

I voted for the rat....You know who. (Lightningrod LAWL!)

But in hindsight..I should've gone for the Imposter Ditto. T_T...Sad face.

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Although I still think they just deleted all votes from the same IP and then Arceus was the winner out of that. That's a completely legit way to handle it imo, and I wouldn't be surprised if Arceus was going to be the winner if everyone had just voted once.
Nah, Arceus was leading the whole time, even when the Mudkip votes counted, so. :x

I never said that. Take your whining elseshere, 'kay?
Also, an Arceus may be easy to obtain for you, but countless people are having trouble getting their hands on one of their own.

And why would it be stupid?
This is a poll to see what Pokémon is wanted the most. All I can see in your post is that you're whining because you didn't get the Pokémon you want.

Also, go whine at the Darkrai event for Gen. V, go whine at the Victini event over Wi-Fi, go whine at every other Pikachu event, go whine at...
Those were all Pokémon that already were released. And what's wrong with a certain event-only Pokémon being available in more than one event?
I'm sure that Livewire is happy for those that get Arceus, but in an actual event where you get input, (okay totally dismissing the whole rigged argument for this statement) - which none of those you mentioned were, where they DID offer hidden abilities for everything, you'd think it would be nice for something with a hidden ability to win, which is pretty much what he and everyone else that isn't entirely excited about Arceus is saying.

Either way, noboody is whining and they can all say whatever they want, since this is an opinion/discussion thread after all, so please don't tell people to take their thoughts to other places.

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Nah, Arceus was leading the whole time, even when the Mudkip votes counted, so. :x
But it also led at the beginning, presumable before people started spamming. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if Arceus would have won without all the spammed votes, if it was just 1 vote per IP.


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I never said that. Take your whining elseshere, 'kay?
Also, an Arceus may be easy to obtain for you, but countless people are having trouble getting their hands on one of their own.

And why would it be stupid?
This is a poll to see what Pokémon is wanted the most. All I can see in your post is that you're whining because you didn't get the Pokémon you want.

Also, go whine at the Darkrai event for Gen. V, go whine at the Victini event over Wi-Fi, go whine at every other Pikachu event, go whine at...
Those were all Pokémon that already were released. And what's wrong with a certain event-only Pokémon being available in more than one event?

Last, this event is the first time those players outside Japan/South Korea/USA/Europe and Australia can get their hands on a legit Arceus of their own.

How about you go generate an actual argument other than "It is stupid because it's stupid" or "It's stupid because I already have one"?
Both of those are not arguments. The second one just sounds like "I'm what counts to Nintendo, event Pokémon should revolve around me."

I'd drop the tone if I were you. Smarting off to staff won't end well for you.

It's a dream world event. A Pokemon with an actual dream world ability should win, since, you know, it's about the Dream World, not one player who can't obtain a common legendary Pokemon that millions of other players have.

If you really cannot get one by any other means, head to my profile, enter my friend code, hop on wifi, and I will physically give you the event Arceus if it matters to you that much. Hell, I'll give you 6. Or 60.

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Don't be ridiculous. The event was about giving everyone the chance to vote for which Pokémon they wanted to see regardless of how or why they play the games. In the end, the most popular choice won so the Pokémon that the most people will be happy with getting is an Arceus. Isn't that what matters in the end?

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Yes, let's release a crippled Arceus. >_>
It's just going to sit in peoples boxes anyway. SO EXCITING! lol

We had a chance to get something unreleased, and people wasted it. Let's hope the next DW only event can only be voted on by people with time spent in the DW.
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Atleast it's a good Pokémon.

'd drop the tone if I were you. Smarting off to staff won't end well for you.

It's a dream world event. A Pokemon with an actual dream world ability should win, since, you know, it's about the Dream World, not one player who can't obtain a common legendary Pokemon that millions of other players have.
The only Pokémon that should win is the one that has the most votes, regardless of it having a DW ability or not. That was the whole point of, you know, a "popularity poll".
This isn't a poll about the Dream World. It's a poll about which Pokémon people want the most.
Too bad, the Pokémon you wanted to win didn't. That doesn't mean we want to see people acting like children because they didn't get what they wanted.
This is the message I am trying to convey. I am sick of seeing people acting like 10 years old who didn't get what they wanted.

(Also, I could care less if the person is part of staff or not.)
We had a chance to get something unreleased, and people wasted it.
Keiran got a point.

If people wanted to get a Dream World Ditto, no one stopped you from spamming the Dream World with Ditto votes (Not directed at you, Keiran.)

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The only Pokémon that should win is the one that has the most votes, regardless of it having a DW ability or not. That was the whole point of, you know, a "popularity poll".
Too bad, the Pokémon you wanted to win didn't. That doesn't mean it becomes fun to see people acting like children because they didn't get what they wanted.

I somewhat agree with Keiran777 (Who I quoted down below) when (s)he said that people were given the chance of getting something with a DW ability, but instead chose to waste it on something else.

(Also, I could care less if the person is part of staff or not.)

The above post is an example of what I think is constructive criticism in this case.
You're acting more childish than anyone on this thread, tbh. It's not constructive to attack and insult others for wanting Ditto to win, it's just...rude.

Even knowing that I don't have an Arceus, I still would have preferred anything else with a DW ability, even Mudkip. Arceus is one of the most "epic" (quotes since he's technically a god even though I think he's dumb) legendaries out there, so whenever people stop picking up the games, an Arceus giveaway will always bring them back so they have good reason to release Arceus in the future, and I'm sure they will. Not to mention that they have a lot in the past, so it's fairly easy to trade for an Arceus nowadays.

While it's still possible that they'll release DW Ditto at some point in the future, it's a lower chance then Arceus because Ditto has to contend with the other 600+ non-legendaries for a chance of release. And more people would come out for an event related to the anime, or really any relevant event, while Ditto is Gen I so only the well-versed people would pick up their games for that. So Ditto is already pretty far down on the list most likely.


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You're acting more childish than anyone on this thread, tbh. It's not constructive to attack and insult others for wanting Ditto to win, it's just...rude.
Well I'm not insulting anyone. At least it's not my point.
It's just that I see the posts that came after Nintendo's announcement, and a lot of them summed up to "B'aww why is it Arceus, X Pokémon deserved to win"
This is extremely irritating. Couldn't people just accept that Arceus won?
It won't lead anywhere to complain about Celebi, Deoxys or Ditto not winning, or any other Pokémon for the matter.

I don't mind if people prefer Celebi, Deoxys, Ditto or any other Pokémon with Dream World abilities.
However, seeing people say Arceus doesn't deserve to win just because they voted for something else is incredibly annoying to my eyes, because they're not more important than those who voted for Arceus.

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People would complain regardless of the result. If whomever was unhappy with the results then they could have rallied people to vote and so on. But they didn't and Arceus prevailed in the end. If this is indeed a popularity then the fans got what they wanted for the most part at least the ones that participated in the vote. Not like they won't do a Global Link vote in the future, so no biggy. Yes Arceus may be easy to obtain, i.e. Movie Events, but some people may be unaware or not part of pokemon forums or at least active where they find someone to trade them one. Also I don't see the point in animosity on any side. At the end of the day it is just data that will probably set in peoples boxes o_o.

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People would complain regardless of the result. If whomever was unhappy with the results then they could have rallied people to vote and so on. But they didn't and Arceus prevailed in the end. If this is indeed a popularity then the fans got what they wanted for the most part at least the ones that participated in the vote. Not like they won't do a Global Link vote in the future, so no biggy. Yes Arceus may be easy to obtain, i.e. Movie Events, but some people may be unaware or not part of pokemon forums or at least active where they find someone to trade them one. Also I don't see the point in animosity on any side. At the end of the day it is just data that will probably set in peoples boxes o_o.
Totally. That is what democracy is, it cannot please everyone out here.
Though I am not sure they should do more polls in the future, because none of those future polls will please everyone either.

(Oh, and for those who are interested, I already do have Arceus. In fact, I've got two, including the Japanese Dream World Arceus.)

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We had a chance to get something unreleased, and people wasted it. Let's hope the next DW only event can only be voted on by people with time spent in the DW.
But it technically is unreleased since the other one was an event where people had to go to Toys r Us.

Anyway, kinda disappointed because I would've liked Ditto, but meh, w/e.
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That's the reaction of half the of voters who went for their favorite. Notice the fists!

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Arceus AGAIN, seriously, I think the poll was rigged...
Yep, totally rigged.

Nintendo would rig a meaningless poll where the only result is that they change a few lines of code and send a different virtual cartoon animal over the internet.
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GAH! SO MAD! I read about Arceus winning on Serebii, and was about to punch a wall. -_-
I voted for Garchomp, as it would've had an awesome DW ability.
I don't even use legendaries when battling, so this Arceus is gonna be no help to me at all. I mean, if there was a chance they would change it, I wouldn't even care what they changed it to. Anything but an Arceus or a legendary. Poo.
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GAH! SO MAD! I read about Arceus winning on Serebii, and was about to punch a wall. -_-
I voted for Garchomp, as it would've had an awesome DW ability.
I don't even use legendaries when battling, so this Arceus is gonna be no help to me at all. I mean, if there was a chance they would change it, I wouldn't even care what they changed it to. Anything but an Arceus or a legendary. Poo.
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I voted for Ditto, so it's natural that I'm upset about Arceus winning. But now we can stop hearing people wanting Arceus to be released :D
Although I can't hold the fact that I own an Arceus and my friend doesn't over his head.

Then again, Ditto might have ended up like Zoroark (more of a gimmick than anything).
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But it technically is unreleased since the other one was an event where people had to go to Toys r Us.
it's a pokemon that is already available. It has been released before anyway(look at Japan's poll). Plus the TRU one was better for having exclusive moves.
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