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Old December 31st, 2004 (9:41 AM).
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Jynx (F) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Oblivious
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Fake Tears
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Ice Beam
- Lovely Kiss

It works surprisingly well.

Clefable (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cute Charm
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Encore
- Light Screen
- Seismic Toss
- Wish

Clefable is mostly there for support. It passes HP and Light Screen well to Hariyama for a sub-punch set-up.

Hariyama (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Substitute
- Whirlwind

Camerupt (M) @ Quick Claw
Trait: Magma Armor
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SAtk
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Howl
- Overheat

Quagsire (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 58 Atk / 200 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Counter
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock]

I already have a Focus-Puncher and Jynx put the opponents to sleep, so Yawn/FP are kind of useless here.

Golduck (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Damp
EVs: 140 HP / 200 SAtk / 170 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Surf

Golduck needs work. I don't know if Psychic should be there, but the movepool is so limited. The team needed another special sweeper, and Golduck seemed to fit the bill.
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Old December 31st, 2004 (6:07 PM).
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On Camurupt I like Eruption over Overheat, and I know why you put a Quick Claw on him, but it doesn't guarentee it will attack first, so I like Leftovers over that, and I perfer Rock Slide over Howl, but Howl works too.
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Old December 31st, 2004 (6:48 PM).
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Camerupt hasn't any defences. It may as well get some helpful hax.
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Old December 31st, 2004 (9:41 PM).
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HP electric belongs more on Golduck, with psychic on Jynx. Otherwise a fine lookin' UU team. Also, adamant Hariyama.
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Old December 31st, 2004 (11:16 PM).
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Camerupt hasn't any defences. It may as well get some helpful hax.
You know I never did know what hax ment. :\
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Old December 31st, 2004 (11:35 PM).
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Jynx - Psychic over HP Electric, otherwise looks fine. I'd use Lum Berry here.

Clefable - alright, I can see where this is going. Throw a few more into Defence EV though.

Hariyama - consider Knock Off somewhere, although I can't see where you'd put it without changing the set completely.

Camerupt - Lum Berry over Quick Claw, says hi to Breloom/Exeggutor/Venusaur as they try to Spore/Sleep Powder you and you take em out with Overheat. Especially funny to throw this thing at a Sunnybeamer.

Quagsire - despite the popularity of McIcegar, some Gengar still carry Giga Drain. Be warned. You'll probably want to switch into Suicune Surfs, but don't expect to stay there to Curse up for long as they Roar you away.

Golduck - um, don't know what to suggest, never used one.
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Old January 1st, 2005 (3:49 AM).
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In the battledex advanced thing frostweaver suggest cross chop on him, dunno if it works but you could try it :)
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Old January 1st, 2005 (12:49 PM).
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HP electric belongs more on Golduck, with psychic on Jynx. Otherwise a fine lookin' UU team. Also, adamant Hariyama.
Hariyama also has three speed IVs, so that it has a nearly-guaranteed last use of Sub, so it can FP the next turn. It still has nearly maxed IVs in everything else with HP [Ghost] 70, so Adamant wouldn't really work.

It's speed is one point more than Snorlax (97), which stinks. It would be nice to FP them.

I'll give Jynx Psychic and Golduck HP Electric.


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Jynx (F) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Oblivious
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Fake Tears
- Ice Beam
- Lovely Kiss
- Psychic

Clefable (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cute Charm
EVs: 228 HP / 62 Def / 220 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Encore
- Light Screen
- Seismic Toss
- Wish

Hariyama (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Substitute
- Whirlwind

Camerupt (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Magma Armor
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SAtk
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Howl
- Overheat

Quagsire (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 58 Atk / 200 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Counter
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock]

Golduck (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Damp
EVs: 140 HP / 200 SAtk / 170 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Ice Beam
- Surf
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Old January 2nd, 2005 (12:47 PM).
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I would rather counter in place of encore on clefable...
works with light screen..
but if ur main objective is a pphazing of sort then it is fine.
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Old January 4th, 2005 (10:32 AM).
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Jynx (F) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Oblivious
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Fake Tears
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Ice Beam
- Lovely Kiss

despite what the others tell you, go with HP electric and surprise the crap out of skarm and company. I actually recommend HP Fire. forry and meta damage.

Clefable (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cute Charm
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Encore
- Light Screen
- Seismic Toss
- Wish

meh I never liked useless mons but w/e

Hariyama (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Substitute
- Whirlwind

I like. but not to the fullest potential of hariyama but w/e this works.

Camerupt (M) @ Quick Claw
Trait: Magma Armor
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SAtk
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Howl
- Overheat

with these pitiful defenses, howl is pointless, rock slide over howl.

Quagsire (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 58 Atk / 200 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Counter
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock]

btw this > hariyama for what you are using hariyama for. if I can find a decent hariyama ms, I'll give it to you and then you can use the set me and tooth came up with. curse/hp ghost, quake, yawn, focus punch

Golduck (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Damp
EVs: 140 HP / 200 SAtk / 170 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Surf

The team needed another special sweeper, and Golduck seemed to fit the bill. First of all, tahts a bad pun even for a canadian, and second of all, this duck is good. all I ask for is cloud nine @ salac and allocate some speed evs to 265. preferable away from hp but its up to you.
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Old January 4th, 2005 (4:04 PM).
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I truely didn't realise that I put in a bad pun in the post. I often find more use in Damp, since I don't have a Ghost type to counter Explosion. I see how it could come in handy battling Kingdra, too. I'll give it a try.
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Old January 5th, 2005 (8:24 AM).
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yeh I just noticed this team has no special or physical walls... X_X;;

I suppose it could work.

and btw, thats what they all say about the puns ;-)
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Old January 5th, 2005 (2:36 PM).
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Jynx (F) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Oblivious
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Fake Tears
- Ice Beam
- Lovely Kiss
- Psychic

i like cm somewhere... =\

Clefable (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Cute Charm
EVs: 228 HP / 62 Def / 220 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Encore
- Light Screen
- Seismic Toss
- Wish

i like the cosmic power, seismic toss, thunder wave, rest set... gets owned by gengar but its nice to waste all of its psychic and t bolt pp... his loss is bigger then your loss which is stalling a few turns

Hariyama (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Substitute
- Whirlwind

hariyama is so cool \../

Camerupt (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Magma Armor
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SAtk
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Howl
- Overheat

camerupt is cool too

Quagsire (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 58 Atk / 200 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Counter
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock]

curse and counter do not mix... unless youre talking about countering hidden power from jolt or something... but meh =\ i still like surf > counter to not get owned by skarm

Golduck (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Damp
EVs: 140 HP / 200 SAtk / 170 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Ice Beam
- Surf

meh, i like cross chop > hp electric to not get owned by bliss...; @ salac berry is an option...
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