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Old December 31st, 2004 (12:47 PM).
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I'm pretty new to netbattle, I think I need alot of help with EV's...

Starmie @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Surf
- Thunderbolt

Standard, dunno weather to use Timid or Modest nature.

Scizor (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 119 HP / 252 Atk / 139 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Quick Attack
- Silver Wind
- Steel Wing

Physical sweeper, quick attacker. 139 EV's in speed brings it to 200, after 1 agility it can outspeed most things.

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 119 HP / 51 Atk / 252 Def / 88 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Explosion
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb
- Will-O-Wisp

Physical Tank

Ampharos (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Static
EVs: 100 HP / 58 Atk / 252 Spd / 100 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

I like this, its underrated IMO. No idea about nature or EV's :\

Hypno (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Insomnia
EVs: 156 HP / 200 SAtk / 154 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Skill Swap
- Thunderpunch

I always liked hypno better than Alakazam on the games cause it has hypnosis and can take more hits. Decided i'd try it on netbattle. Considering swapping skill swap for Seismic toss or a physical move so it can do something to blissey.

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 68 SAtk / 190 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Haze
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Wish

Special tank.


Thanks for any help in advance :)
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Old December 31st, 2004 (12:51 PM).
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Weezing you could change fire blast to something like shockwave because 1 fire atack is enough.
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Old December 31st, 2004 (2:56 PM).
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There is only one fire attack on weezing that does direct damage...and skill swap doesnt let you use an other attack...so change it for something else :)
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Old December 31st, 2004 (9:55 PM).
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Skill Swapping against Blissey is still very much of a threat for her, since she loses her Natural Cure and becomes vunerable to status once again. Consider Toxic over Thunderpunch then. As for the rest:

Starmie - Rapid Spin over Psychic, works a lot better for Starmie. I'd use Modest, since you're not going to outspeed Timid Zam/Dugtrio/Sceptile regardless (115 base speed vs 120)

Weezing - looks fine to me. I'd normally have Weezing as a hazer, but since you have Vaporeon this works better for him.

Scizor - HP Steel over Steel Wing, looks fine otherwise.

Ampharos - not sure he needs all that speed, I'd throw some of that into Attack or Sp attack. Looks fine otherwise.

Hypno - maybe Rest somewhere if you go with Skill Swapping, although your move options are limited then. I still like the idea of Toxistalling Blissey out and her having no Natural Cure to rely on. Mean Look Baton Pass would be the best option for Toxistalling Blissey out, though, so don't try it with this team.

Vaporeon - give him some Defence EV, otherwise looks fine.
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Old December 31st, 2004 (10:22 PM).
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how is ampharos going 2 get focus punch in?
maybe bp some attack somewhere, or try and have safeguard. *i use an uu pokemon: gorbyss for its def and bping ability. it learns helpful moves like: safeguard, iron defense, amnesia, etc. i suggest putting that in somewhere, and it has great def. for mine i gave it: 252 hp, 112 def, 144 sp attack @ leftovers: bp, surf, iron def, safe guard. I think u could do: raindance (helps golduck and starmie to) *boosts surf/speed*, surf, safeguard, and either barrier, or ice beam. *can also learn a few other special moves: psychic, maybe u could use icy wind for speed lowering, or jsut hp special anything else u need. and u can choose its nature, and evs, but i suggest lefties
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Old December 31st, 2004 (10:54 PM).
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I'm pretty new to netbattle, I think I need alot of help with EV's...

Starmie @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Surf
- Thunderbolt

Standard, dunno weather to use Timid or Modest nature.

modest; id rather have leftovers cuz i never got a chance to activate petaya =\ it always faints

Scizor (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 119 HP / 252 Atk / 139 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Quick Attack
- Silver Wind
- Steel Wing

Physical sweeper, quick attacker. 139 EV's in speed brings it to 200, after 1 agility it can outspeed most things.

you dont need quick attack cuz you already have agility...unless you want a back up vs endure/sub/reversal/flailers cuz of the chance that weezing could faint before it comes it

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 119 HP / 51 Atk / 252 Def / 88 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Explosion
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb
- Will-O-Wisp

Physical Tank

looks good

Ampharos (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Static
EVs: 100 HP / 58 Atk / 252 Spd / 100 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

I like this, its underrated IMO. No idea about nature or EV's :\

ampharos rocks \../ use lonely or mild nature cuz it isnt going to survive earthquake but skarms drill peck doesnt break the sub... take alot of those speed evs out and put them in either its s/defs or HP and attack... speed isnt going to help it one bit

Hypno (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Insomnia
EVs: 156 HP / 200 SAtk / 154 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Skill Swap
- Thunderpunch

I always liked hypno better than Alakazam on the games cause it has hypnosis and can take more hits. Decided i'd try it on netbattle. Considering swapping skill swap for Seismic toss or a physical move so it can do something to blissey.

snatch > skill swap... snatch owns so many things =) have a modest nature

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 68 SAtk / 190 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Haze
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Wish

Special tank.

more def evs

Thanks for any help in advance :)
for a new guy, you have pretty nice ev formats... (not having 252,252,6/129,129,252)
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Old January 1st, 2005 (3:43 AM).
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Starmie - Rapid Spin over Psychic, works a lot better for Starmie. I'd use Modest, since you're not going to outspeed Timid Zam/Dugtrio/Sceptile regardless (115 base speed vs 120)
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id rather have leftovers cuz i never got a chance to activate petaya =\ it always faints
I'll do that. I normally end up switching after I get the petaya boost so I loose it anyway.

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Scizor - HP Steel over Steel Wing, looks fine otherwise.
Changed that, changed the EV's slightly to get that one more HP without loosing anything else.

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you dont need quick attack cuz you already have agility...unless you want a back up vs endure/sub/reversal/flailers cuz of the chance that weezing could faint before it comes it
Thats what its for, Vaporeon probably couldn't take a reversal/fail before being able to haze and as weezing doesn't have haze....

Iv'e changed weezings EV's to 118 HP / 52 Atk / 252 Def / 88 SAtk - not much but gives it one more attack.

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how is ampharos going 2 get focus punch in?
Iv'e had no trouble with him getting some fp's in.

I'm gonna try lonley nature with 158 HP, 252 Atk, 100 SAtk - that brings its attack nearlly as high as his special, should make fp alot more powerful.

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snatch > skill swap... snatch owns so many things =) have a modest nature
Snatch sounds fun, can steal Blisseys softboils as he can't heal and jolts subs... have to rely on hypno to slow jolt down as it can 2HKO vapy. Didn't want a neutral nature on him, must have forgot to set it :\

Hypno @ Leftovers (Modest)
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-Snatch
-Seismic Toss?

Might try a fighting move, dunno if its worth it with the low attack but if it can do more than 100 to Blissey then i'll try it, it would cover dark types aswell..

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Vaporeon - give him some Defence EV, otherwise looks fine.
I'll try 252 HP / 90 Def / 68 SAtk / 100 SDef


Thanks for the help :)
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