Fourth Generation Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum kicked off the fourth generation of Pokémon. Two years later, fans of the Johto region were treated to a remastered adventure in HeartGold & SoulSilver. Discuss the games, explore the features, share your experiences, and help other players out!

View Poll Results: Who Is The Hardest Gym Leader Of HG/SS?
Falkner 5 1.77%
Bugsy 11 3.89%
Whitney 140 49.47%
Morty 15 5.30%
Chuck 15 5.30%
Jasmine 16 5.65%
Bryce 4 1.41%
Claire 77 27.21%
Other (Kanto) 0 0%
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Old December 22nd, 2011 (8:34 AM).
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    My most troublesome gymleader was indeed Whitney. With all the others, you could make a plan of attack, but she just spammed rollout and stomp.
    The only time i defeated her with ease, was with a quaksire that had obvlious as ability.
    What makes it worse is that she cries after you win, letting you look like a bully
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    Old December 22nd, 2011 (12:46 PM).
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    The only gym leader I had trouble with was Blue, and that was because I didn't battle him with my main team. If I did, I don't think I would have had any trouble.
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    Old December 23rd, 2011 (5:30 AM).
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      I put Claire, because even though she was easy peasy, she was the only person I tried battling twice, only because I forgot to heal beforehand the first time.
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      Old December 23rd, 2011 (2:53 PM).
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      Claire always gave me trouble, hate battling dragon types.
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      Old December 24th, 2011 (7:35 AM).
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        Although this may sound strange, I think that the hardest was Falkner, in the beginning, when you don't have many powerful Pokemon, Falkner that "spammed" Roost was somewhat hard to defeat

        But other than that, Morty, Hypnosis and Dream Eater isn't very good ...
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        Old December 24th, 2011 (3:04 PM).
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        Although this may sound strange, I think that the hardest was Falkner, in the beginning, when you don't have many powerful Pokemon, Falkner that "spammed" Roost was somewhat hard to defeat

        But other than that, Morty, Hypnosis and Dream Eater isn't very good ...
        He's not really hard if you trade for that Onix or catch a Mareep.
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          For me, it used to be Chuck in the original games. But since Focus Punch was introduced, he's been reduced to a Chuckle.

          Anyways, back on topic, it's that darn Miltank! For some reason I'm under the impression that it has max attack EVs. Claire never gave me a problem on this generation, kind of weird that I saw Dragons as pushovers this time around.
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          He's not really hard if you trade for that Onix or catch a Mareep.
          You can say this about any gym though. 'If you have ____ then it'll be easy.' I can attest that Falkner is hard with a grass monotype team, oi. >_<
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          Old December 25th, 2011 (2:13 PM).
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            Old December 25th, 2011 (2:16 PM).
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              For some reason Jasmine has always given me trouble, and once in a while Bugsy, depending on my starter. Everyone else in a piece of cake.
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              Old December 25th, 2011 (5:00 PM).
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                Despite Whitney being easier than in GSC, she's still the hardest Johto leader by far in my opinion. The only one coming close is Clair but that's because dragons are always a pain for starter Pokemon, which is usually people's main Pokemon.
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                Old December 29th, 2011 (11:39 AM).
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                  I put Clair, I hate her Kingdra with a passion
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                  Old December 29th, 2011 (11:56 AM).
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                    I put Whitney first, then Clair. Clair's Dragon Pokemon are pretty troublesome, but that's why the Ice Path exists (as I catch and grind my new Ice Pokemon there). Whitney, however, nearly drove me insane with that Miltank of hers, especially when she decides to spam Attract and Milk Drink.
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                    Old December 29th, 2011 (3:45 PM).
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                    Still remains at Whitney, I think still will always maintain her power.
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                      I have 7 of 8 badges, and so far, Whitney byfar. I really didn't have to do any other gym leader more than twice, but she took about 3, and that effing Miltank was just frustrating.

                      I see that Claire isn't far behind in the poll, and it's concerning me.
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                        I was really excited to battle Whitney as she was my favorite Johto gym leader, I thought she was going to be an easy one, but I really had a tough time battling her! Clair definitely comes in second! D:
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                          I was really excited to battle Whitney as she was my favorite Johto gym leader, I thought she was going to be an easy one, but I really had a tough time battling her! Clair definitely comes in second! D:
                          Same opinion here. Same opinion. That Miltank and Kingdra are too bulky a Pokemon and too strong a Sweeper. Really strong guys.
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                          Whitney was hard, but it took my 1,000+ tries to defeat Clair's Kingdra before I lucked out. I used my Ampharos to paralyze it before it fainted, and all I had left was a Crobat. I used Confuse Ray and chipped away at it's HP (Confuse Ray worked for like four turns in a row) until I finally killed it.
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                            The gym leaders that troubled me were Whitney and Morty. Whitney's Miltank was just a pain, always using Milk Drink and her Attract move. ARGH! Morty was also annoying because of the Pokemon's Hypnosis attack and Dream Eater. DragoniteMySaviour, I would have to agree with you when I went to Cianwood City. Completely underleveled!!!
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                            But isn't Fly a HM you can obtain well after Whitney's gym? =p
                            They could have traded it to someone's game, it learns Fly then they trade it back.
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                            Old January 16th, 2012 (5:42 PM).
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                              In the originals, I had trouble with Whitney because I had a male Bayleef and a male Growlithe.

                              In HG/SS the only one I ever had to rebattle was Claire, and I only had to once.
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                                Whitney and her annoying Milktank. Using attract nearly all the time, flinching me, healing itself. Its a pain versing her, I try get it down quickly but its defensive as a Milktank can get!
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                                The typical answer Whitney, her miltank! Ugh

                                Rollout + Milk Drink with the occasional stomp always destroyed me. Buut, Rocky got rid of it easily. XD;
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                                  Hmmm... Like I'd expect, we have Whitney and Clair ahead.

                                  Whitney has that Miltank with rollout... it's hard to deal with it if you haven't evolved your pokémon yet. But in Blackthorn Gym, you have to deal with the Pressure of fighting mighty Dragon type pokémon... it's like you're preparing yourself for the champion... and that Kingdra can get really annoying sometimes...

                                  I think Clair is the hardest Gym Leader...
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                                    Whiteny was hard when I fought her, I always was defeated by her miltank, but I`d also bought a dratini from the game center, and I trained him and then I beat her up, yay!! after that the gym leaders was`nt to hard, sometimes annoing but I handle it.
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