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Old January 1st, 2005 (9:00 AM).
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    Ninty said it WILL NOT have A,B,and a D-pad/Analog stick.Speculate?
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    Old January 1st, 2005 (9:09 AM).
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      They did? What the heck? That's not true.
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      Old January 1st, 2005 (9:23 AM).
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        No,they said that.NP mag even said it.I wonder how you will play the games.0_o
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        Old January 1st, 2005 (9:54 AM).
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          It says that in NP? Lemme check...

          EDIT: Where does it say that?
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            Yeah, I read this on Nintendojo.

            I'm not sure if this is true or not, but if it is, then it makes me wonder what Nintendo is up to. The D-pad and A and B buttons are essential in playing most games (well, maybe no so much the D-pad), so I'm curious about what they are planning. Perhaps you'll just use a mic for the next console, and say what you want your characters to do, or maybe it'll be like virtual reality games.

            Still though, I'm having trouble believing that is true, so I'll take with a grain of salt for now.
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            Old January 1st, 2005 (10:12 AM).
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              Give me a link to where it says that.
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              Old January 1st, 2005 (10:16 AM).
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                December 23, 2004 - Earlier this week, the respected Japanese business magazine Shuukan Diamond reported in its 2005 Preview Edition that the Nintendo Revolution Controller will not feature a directional pad or A and B buttons.


                If the news turns out to be true, Revolution would be the first Nintendo console to not feature a D-Pad and the A/B button combo. Nintendo has long said that it seeks to innovate with new control mechanisms, as evidenced by the inclusion of a touch screen on the Nintendo DS.
                Given the focus of setting the A and B buttons on the GameCube controller apart from the now industry standard four-button layout, it will be interesting to see what new setup Nintendo is planning to bring to the table.

                According to Shuukan Diamond, the wait will not be long. The magazine reports that Nintendo will debut GameCube's successor at the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) in Los Angeles, May 2005.

                None of the magazine's claims were substantiated by Nintendo, but given the publication's track record of accurate business reporting since 1913, we'd be surprised if Diamond's claims turned out to be false.

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                Old January 1st, 2005 (10:20 AM).
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                  They never said anything about X, Y, L, R buttons, the C stick and the control stick
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                    Yes, but it also means that the controller's focus could shift to other areas. It's widely-known that the N Revolution won't be your standard next-gen console, which paves the way for all sorts of weird and non-wonderful gimmicks such as infra red motion sensoring. You could be playing the next Zelda game by waving a makeshift sword around in the air like a spanner.

                    Nintendo want to "go back to basics", since they feel controller configurations have become too complex and are alienating new users. Quite how they figure that one out I'll never know.
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                      Yes, Nintendo fears games like Kirby Air Ride (which uses only the A button) are so much more complex, thus not as popular as games like GTA (which uses every button on the controller)…

                      This –is- disturbing. Pulling this little stunt on the DS is one thing, but if they try to “innovate” too much they’re going to find themselves done in. Controllers have worked this way and provided excellent control for years and years. They can’t see that?
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                        the DS was a good innovation. I surprised you people don't see that. Afraid of change, I suppose. Such old schoolers. Zelda WW was looked at as a terrible game since it wasn the realistic graphics shown at E3. But look at how it turned out. Possibly teh best game ever on GC. You people need to have an open mind.
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                          Only losers thought that WW would be horrible. And it's not the best game on the GCN. It was too short.
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                            It has props in the top 10,though.And yes,I knew it!Thanks for posting the article,lucifer.
                            But Innovation is a good thing.I think it will have motion detectors.That tech is used already.They will probably enhance it to put in a video game.
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                              I -do- have an open mind, and I’m not saying the innovations are poor. I don’t have the right, nor do you to say the DS’s are good. There aren’t enough games out yet to make that call.

                              They are however, risky, in the sense they’re very new and much different. And what this article states is the next Nintendo Console is going to tamper with the very fabric of gaming that has done so much for us over the past twenty years. Again—risky, and IMO not the smartest move.

                              The graphic style in TWW wasn’t an original venture. Others had done cel-shading before. “Old-school” is part o Nintendo’s appeal, I wouldn’t think you’d condemn it.
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                                I -do- have an open mind, and Im not saying the innovations are poor. I dont have the right, nor do you to say the DSs are good. There arent enough games out yet to make that call.

                                They are however, risky, in the sense theyre very new and much different. And what this article states is the next Nintendo Console is going to tamper with the very fabric of gaming that has done so much for us over the past twenty years. Againrisky, and IMO not the smartest move.

                                The graphic style in TWW wasnt an original venture. Others had done cel-shading before. Old-school is part o Nintendos appeal, I wouldnt think youd condemn it.
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                                Old January 1st, 2005 (11:43 AM).
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                                    Ok.But Pogi has a point.Innovation is good.The DS is making money because of....Innovation!!!
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                                      It’s making money for the same reason the PSP will.
                                      Not because of innovation.
                                      Not because of graphics
                                      Because of games, and dedicated fans. That’s why.
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                                        Only losers thought that WW would be horrible. And it's not the best game on the GCN. It was too short.
                                        Game length has nothing to do with quality, and TWW wasn't that short anyway.

                                        Nintendo claim that the usual console updates such as improved graphics and power no longer encapture the gaming public. Obviously their market research team is doing far from a bang-up job at the minute...
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                                          Look at it this way.

                                          DS-No microphone,no touch screen,1 screen.No wirelessPlays N64 graphics.

                                          Would anyone in they're right mind want that?That is **** compared to the PSP.But,the real DS,is what is innovative,and that is why any one wants it.A 8 year old that want it probably doesnt evej know how to spell Nintendo,yet they want it.Why?Features.
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                                            They want it because it’s marketed it to them. And a lot of those “features” don’t hide the dated technology underneath. The features nor the graphics pull the people, it’s the game, the marketing, the fandom.

                                            Yes, Nintendo has stated more power has stopped wooing gamers. While it’s nice to try new things, basing your entire platform onto them? Very very shaky foundation.
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                                              I Did'nt make this topic to debate about the Future.I made it to Speculate what the N5's features,designs, and styles of play would be like.
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                                                I think it could mean we could have a touch screen as a controller. If they are taking away they standard moving, then...how else are you going to move? The touch screen would seem like the only logical way of moving then. Unless Nintendo is going to figure out, and show us some new way of maneuvering in the game, the touch screen would be possibly the only way to move. Unless the system itself is going to be some futuristic model that we have never seen before in a gaming system.
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                                                  I think it could mean we could have a touch screen as a controller.
                                                  Na. Nintendo have already rubbished that. It'll have nothing to do with any touch-sensitive stuff.
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                                                    Maybe a eyetoy type thing in the controller?Heat sensors?Mind reading stuff?(that's possible,it was on FOX news)
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