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Old May 26th, 2014 (12:39 PM). Edited May 27th, 2014 by Christos.
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    Hi there,


    i finally have managed it, to do MegaEvolutions in the 3rd Gen. I show you this, in order to get feedback, but also to help me with the desing of the new Mega-Pokemon.
    This system will not be availible for the public, but i definitly want to get feedback (and of course also some publicity for my hack pokemon violet). If somebody has done any further research on the battle system (especially for the "display text callback at 0x03004FE0), it would be great, if you could post it here or pm me.
    Also Pm me if you want to help me with the sprite desing.



    Here is a link to Pokemon Violet - also subscribe my channel if you want to. I will post my research on the battle system (which is merly enough to perform a mega evolution), but keep in mind that all ROM-Offsets (and eventually some RAM Offsets as well) are only for FireRed German.

    The Battle System is parted into many sequenzes, e.g. oponent makes a move, you open the bag etc. Which sequence is executed next is stored on a callback handler. A callbacks loops every frame, and if it has finished it pushes an other callback to this handler. There are many callbacks, and i dont know how many there are, but most of the time RAM: 0x03004FE0 is used for the callbacks.

    There are some callbacks i reserached so far, but notice that they will all return to the "normal" battle once they have finished.

    • 0x08108BCC | 1 : Return to the Battle, executes an item script form a table (usually your moves ends after that, because an item script from this table ends the move, but e.g. not for item 0x0)
    • 0x080A1FE0 | 1 : text is loaded, which text is related to an table which i have not found so far
    As you might see now these callbacks are meant to be used in combination with an item. I use this callbacks in my mega_evolution, because they can be used in a item_battle_script safely.


    Everybody who has hacked items so far knows, that battle_scripts are executed kinda weird. The ASM snippet seems to prepeare what has to be done afterwards. The pokeball for example just loads data into the RAM, then uses the "Return to Battle" callback. Because the item slot is pokeball (im RAM) the callback from the table is executed, and a pokeballs effect is now active, even thogh the code on the pokeballs data itself has been executed long ago.


    Unfortunatley that is almost everything i figured out so far

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    Old May 27th, 2014 (1:19 PM).
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      Simply amazing. The more we learn about battle scripts the better, this is literally one of the last frontiers of Gen III hacking we have yet to discover and now we are one step closer to fully understanding the battle engine.
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      Old May 27th, 2014 (1:38 PM).
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        this method seems a little wonky - from the current implementation it appears you could mega then switch or mega then use an item

        it also seems that you'll use the mega's base speed for the turn it evolves instead of the non-mega's base speed

        it's still impressive and a step in the "right" direction (as far as hacking goes), don't get me wrong, but hopefully now that the baseline has been figured out it can be improved to be as accurate as possible instead of sticking with it with the community's typical "good enough" mentality that's stuck around for a little too long
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        Old May 27th, 2014 (2:31 PM).
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          To make this not just a blatant ad thread and actually have some content, I'm gonna dump some stuff I figured out from an old attempt at creating Relic Song that might be useful for creating mega evolutions.

          Forms, in almost all cases, are most easily created using extra slots. There's a few reasons for this- the biggest in my opinion is that it trivializes changing base stats. Normally you'd have to do a bunch of obnoxious math to calculate the Mega's stats, but by tying the mon to a different slot you can just call the game's stat-recalc function (x3e47c) to do it for you after you change the mon's species to the new form's slot. More pragmatically, this method simplifies changing their sprites, abilities, type, weight, and cry. It also means you don't have to add a mega or form identifier anywhere as you can just check the species. As far as the pokedex goes, you can map every form of a mon to the same dex number, so encountering Rotom-W would get you Rotom's dex page if you used this method for it.

          So, to implement mega evolution, you'd want to change the mon to the mega species provided that no other mega pokemon exist in the party (done by checking their species). You'd also want to update the battle structs to the new mon's stats, typing, species, and ability. You'd also need to run a routine that scans the party for mega-evolved pokemon (again, a species check) and changes their species to the appropriate normal mon at the end of every battle.

          I think it should go without saying that ASM would be involved, especially in an implementation consistent with X/Y since it would need to happen after the player selects their command and turn order is decided but before any of the Pokemon actually move.


          Here's some helpful offsets for changing a mon's species during battle:

          x02023D6B: bank of the mon that is currently attacking. 0 is player's first mon, 1 is enemy's first mon, 2 is player's second mon (in doubles), 3 is enemy's second mon. Relevant if you want to do Relic Song or Stance Change, but not as much for properly implemented Megas.
          x02023BCE: stores which party slot the active pokemon are mapped to. Somewhat non-intuitively, these are half-words, and are sorted in the same order as the above banks. (player's first mon, enemy's first mon, player's second mon, enemy's second mon). Values range from 0-5.
          x02024284: player's party data. Each entry is 100 (x64) bytes long, encrypted- structure is same as documented here: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokemon_data_structure_in_Generation_III
          x0202402C: enemy's party data, stored same way as above.
          x02023be4: Battle structs. There are four of them, each 88 (x58) bytes long. These store temporary data for the active pokemon, such as type changes, volatile status (curse/leech seed), stat modifiers, etc. This is *not* directly tied to the pokemon data- if you change the mon's species in pokemon data you'll need to update this yourself. They are documented in what should be a sticky thread here: http://www.pokecommunity.com/archive/index.php/t-215644.html
          x02023bde: turn order- four bytes, holding the values 00, 01, 02, and 03 in the order those banks will move (just 00 and 01 in single battles).

          x0803fbe8: decrypter- function used to read the pokemon data elegantly. Takes a Pokemon struct's address in R0 and an index to read in R1.
          x0804037c: encrypter- function used to change the pokemon data elegantly. Takes a Pokemon struct's address in R0, an index to change in R1, and a pointer to the new data in R2.
          x0803e47c: stat recalc- function used the recalculate a pokemon's stats to accommodate changed EVs or base stats.
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          Old May 30th, 2014 (10:38 AM).
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            Woah, this a cool finding! Another leap towards hacking.

            But this,
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            Simply disappointing. No, really..
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            Old May 30th, 2014 (12:12 PM).
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              it is a real shame you'er not making this public, it'd be a good feature for all.
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              Old June 7th, 2014 (6:29 PM).
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                It does seem like a really good idea. I never even thought about putting it as an in-bag item. Unfortunately, you're not having it available to the people.
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                Old August 24th, 2014 (2:37 AM).
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                  why you dont want to share that?
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                  Old August 28th, 2014 (2:59 AM).
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                    i think this is fake, you probably edited the video
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                    Old August 28th, 2014 (4:48 AM).
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                      are you kidding me?

                      How could this be fake? xD
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                      Old August 28th, 2014 (4:54 AM).
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                        Oh, good, I am thinking how to make the pokemon image distortion, do you have any good ideas?
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                          This system will not be availible for the public, but i definitly want to get feedback (and of course also some publicity for my hack pokemon violet). If somebody has done any further research on the battle system (especially for the "display text callback at 0x03004FE0), it would be great, if you could post it here or pm me.
                          How are you expecting the public to help you on something you're not going to give to the public?
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                            So, you finally cracked one of the hardest eggs so far, and you're just keeping it for yourself? Disappointing.
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                            Old August 28th, 2014 (2:50 PM). Edited August 28th, 2014 by Urist McHemlock.
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                              Old August 28th, 2014 (5:27 PM).
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                                I'm going to close this thread. I personally do not agree with keeping this to yourself seeing as you posted in R&D and not a personal hack thread. R&D is for PUBLIC development and research, not personal feedback. Make a hack with this in it and then you can request feedback.

                                Btw, sharing will make you far more respected. Trust me.

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