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Old January 27th, 2012 (8:16 PM).
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    Alas, the elite four have proven too much for my Pokemon team and, hence, my stuckness. I've battled them through plently of times, I get to Lance, get halfway through his Team, and BAM I'm out. So. Should I simply grind a little and level up some, or, so I need to make some major changes? I have to admit, with a five pokemon team (coughcough Four, my hypno sucks but I keep him around anyway coughcough) I've done pretty good. Also, I've changed my Gyarados' move set, but I haven't tried sense I changed the moves. So. Here's my normally kick butt team.

    Lv. 42
    Lax nature
    Capable of taking hits
    Holding a Magnet
    Ability is Static

    Rock Smash
    ~She's my header here, unless one of my team has a type advantge, she goes~

    Lv. 39
    Naive nature
    Likes to run (o.e)
    Holding nothing
    Ability is Forewarn

    Focus Punch
    ~Hypno sucks, but I love him anyway. I normaly use him to buy time in battle to heal up the others~

    Brave nature
    Hates to lose
    Holding a Kebia Berry
    Ability is Pressure

    Sacred Fire
    ~It's my strongest, but I don't use it much~

    Lv. 43
    Lonely nature
    Likes to relax
    Holding NeverMelt Ice
    Ability is Intimidate

    Whirlpool (Now it's Hail)
    Waterfall (Now it's Blizzard)
    Ice Fang
    ~I'm pretty sure I'm going to save her, and let her battle Lance at the end, so she has all of her PP and HP~

    Lv. 39
    Mild nature
    Likes to thrash about
    Holding Charcoal
    Ability is Blaze

    Flame Wheel
    Blast Burn
    ~I need to fix those sucky moves, I know T-T~

    So. I know I need to change at least three of Typhlosion's moves. But. What do I change it to? I have....

    Sunny Day
    Focus Blast
    Shadow Claw
    Rock Tomb

    Those are the only moves I have on me that Typhlosion can learn T-T

    And one last thing, I'm having issues tearing through hyper potions and revives before I hit Lance, so when I get to him, I'm slam out, but I can't just buy more as my little avatar is not the richest in the game T-T

    Oh well, Thank you for any imput. =D

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    Old January 27th, 2012 (9:08 PM).
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      I've found a major problem with your team: Stacking. You have 2 fire type pokemon (though if you use Sunny Day, it could be worth it), you're stacking 3 Ice moves on Gyarados, and 3 electric moves on Ampharos (and the last move is a crappy HM). I actually think that Ampharos is the weakest part of your team.

      Teach Focus Blast to Typhlosion. Typhlosion can really make use of it with it's high Special Attack. Sunny Day would be a good idea too (either for Typhlosion or Ho-Oh, since it powers up Fire moves. If you have any good Physical TMs (such as Earthquake), teach them to Gyarados. Also, see what TMs are available as Voltorb Flip prizes.
      Old January 27th, 2012 (9:09 PM).
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      Going to chuck this to the In-game Team Help section we have as that's where stuff like this belongs.

      Some remakes: Ampharos seems to have too many Electric-type moves; try to replace one with say Rain Dance, Return, Fire Punch (heart scale @ move relearner in blackthorn to learn that one). Rock Smash I don't imagine would be too useful either. Same with Hypno only with Confusion being somewhat useless there; try a different move for it there (e.g. a TM move, or via move relearner Headbutt or even Nightmare (given you have Hypnosis).

      With Gyarados I'd actually suggest putting Waterfall back on as it's better than Surf for it (it has a good physical attack stat). Hail + Blizzard is not a bad idea given you want to take out Lance though...

      And for Typhlosion, Sunny day would be odd if you have hail on gyarados already. Rock Tomb is okay I suppose (especially against the Charizard), but note it shouldn't be too far away from learning Flamethrower after a bit more levelling up. On that not I don't think all those TMs would be needed to win as much as just training your Pokemon a bit more (there's Victory Road as well as trainer rematches via the phone). The latter along with using the Amulet Coin means more money, helping you with that other issue.

      Good luck! *moves thread*
      Old January 27th, 2012 (9:13 PM).
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      I think you need diversity in your attacks. As stated above you have two fire Pokemon. Why HO-Oh has thunder is beyond me lol.

      I imagine you use Ampraros to take out Gyarados

      and try to take out the dragonite's with your Gyarados. I taught my Typlosion rollout and he got the job done.

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