5th Gen Those major, tiny omissions

Started by Hiroshi Sotomura January 8th, 2012 12:49 AM
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Well I can finally trade online (ie. trade at all), and now Porygon can't be bought anywhere.
I can bring it from earlier versions, so I'm not too bothered, but it's mighty inconvenient.

Also, Jolteon has no tail in its back-sprite, while it apparently should have a very short one and can even use Iron Tail.
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No L=A.

I loved playing one handed, saved me tons of time while snacking, looking something up, etc. Now I've got to stop playing every time I want to do something. Furthermore, my right thumb always gets tired quickly, so the L=A thing was supper important.
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I didn't like that some of the older Pokemon reused sprites from past Gen IV games, like the Chimchar line. I would've liked it if all 493 Pokemon before the Unova ones got totally new sprites, not just a select few of them.

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Vs. Seeker. Why omit the single greatest innovation to the franchise since Miror B.'s afro? Combined with the Exp system change, it made leveling up exceedingly tedious, something not even Audino and a free Lucky Egg could compensate for.

And honestly, it wasn't just that omission alone, but a combination of it and a few other details (horrid menu, horrid protagonist design, and the aforementioned horrid Exp system) that led me to sell back my copy of White to GameStop.

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The removal of the 'forever run' button is one of the things that annoyed me. It was really convenient in HG/SS to not have to hold down B.

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As PlatinumDude said, the fact that the Pokemon from Generation I-IV didn't receive new sprites was disappointing in my opinion. I too would have preferred new sprite poses. To be honest, I'd prefer new sprite poses than the recycled animated sprites we have for some Pokemon.

I agree with what others have said about the lack of a V.S. Seeker. In D/P/P the key item came in handy many times for me, particularly when it came to level grinding. Hopefully it comes back. D:

The Pal Park too. I much preferred using the Pal Park than playing that new mini-game.
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I didn't like that some of the older Pokemon reused sprites from past Gen IV games, like the Chimchar line. I would've liked it if all 493 Pokemon before the Unova ones got totally new sprites, not just a select few of them.
I agree with this, the fact they recycled really annoyed me.

Another thing that annoyed me was they could of created more gender differences within the fifth generation of Pokemon.


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Not so much that it affected gameplay but at some point I kind of missed the VS seeker, or just rematches with trainers in general. Yeah now that I'm thinking this over again I actually realize that I like B/W the least of all.

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VS Seeker had been always a nice feature of the games during the past generations. however, its removal, and the addition of the more complex EXP gaining system, really made it hard for trainers to train more and such. yes, the lucky egg and proper use of the new exp system is great, but not that great, as soon you will be resorting to wild Pokemons for battle.

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VS Seeker had been always a nice feature of the games during the past generations. however, its removal, and the addition of the more complex EXP gaining system, really made it hard for trainers to train more and such. yes, the lucky egg and proper use of the new exp system is great, but not that great, as soon you will be resorting to wild Pokemons for battle.
At least you have Audinos to fight in shaking grass and Lucky Eggs are now easier to get (after beating the game, on Route 13 there is a man who gives you a held item every day and Lucky Egg is one of them. I have two Lucky Eggs in my Black).

Yeah, the revamped EXP gain system did trouble some of my stronger Pokemon, my main battlers are currently in their 80's.

I might eventually dump some of my main battlers in the PC once they get to Lv100 (I'm keeping Samurott cos he's my starter and either my Gothitelle or Chandelure depending on what Pokemon I want to focus my training on).
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A lot of things that they added in HGSS that got removed annoyed me.
Auto running shoes was great, I didn't have to break my B button, I REALLY miss following Pokemon, that was great (Well, I guess maybe they wanted it to be special for HGSS but still)
The removal of the Vs.Seeker, and I'll think of more later :]

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Another thing that annoyed me was they could of created more gender differences within the fifth generation of Pokemon.
I think it's fine imo, considering how we have Jellicent and Frillish which actually DO show the gender differences, as well as Unfezant etc, which is something that hasn't occurred that much in older games (or not really major differences).

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I think it's fine imo, considering how we have Jellicent and Frillish which actually DO show the gender differences, as well as Unfezant etc, which is something that hasn't occurred that much in older games (or not really major differences).
I actually like the obvious gender differences with Frillish, Jellicent and Unfezant.

My Unfezant is female, so is my Jellicent and they both have a nature that raises Special Attack.

For Frillish, I like the female (pink) ones cos they're cuter than the male (blue) Frillish.
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I had a problem with not beimg able to change the frame of the dialogue box, I understand everyone had the little arrows like comic book strips but I wish it would of been the same as the old school.
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why cant we personalize the protaganist yet
I would most certainly like that.

One thing I was really sad about B/W was that there was no more pokemon following my trainer. The fact, also, that no previous pokemons were obtainable until the end of the game. (I understand the reason, the fact that Unova is afar from the previous regions, but still, it bugged me). The removal of the "constant-running" button was also a letdown.
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Surprised that no-one mentioned the Safari Zone. Maybe I was the only one that liked that place, idk, but it was a pretty cool alternative way to catch Pokémon for me. Just seems kinda lazy to not have included it.
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Surprised that no-one mentioned the Safari Zone. Maybe I was the only one that liked that place, idk, but it was a pretty cool alternative way to catch Pokémon for me. Just seems kinda lazy to not have included it.
I kinda think of it as a just decision because of the Dream World really - who needs the Safari Zone where the chances of catching Pokemon are almost impossible w/ chance based while you've got something where it's entirely chance based but there's a 99% chance you can get the Pokemon you encounter. Works out better imo.
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Vs Seeker, of course.

The small stuff like, no footstep sounds when you walk/run or through the grass. No more sounds of the water rushing when you're near it. Bring back the following Pokemon!

The C-Gear us basically useless save for the Global Link and Dream World, but I barely use it.

But for the sprites...Its not like its easy to make sprites for Pokemon, let alone the frames for them, but now they have to make them move? It can't be that easy to do that for over 600! So I can see why they didn't make new sprites for all of them.
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But for the sprites...Its not like its easy to make sprites for Pokemon, let alone the frames for them, but now they have to make them move? It can't be that easy to do that for over 600! So I can see why they didn't make new sprites for all of them.
I agree. I know this thread is about tiny omissions, but I don't really mind about the sprites. They've recycled sprites often (need I remind you of Yellow/Gold Exeggutor?).

Still, I really miss the Vs. Seeker, and its omission means that there is now no way to rebattle other Trainers, except the ones in Nimbasa City and Black City. Also, L=A. Even though it became more difficult to play one-handed after Gen III, with the 'registered item' button on the other side, it was still convenient.

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