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Old January 15th, 2012 (2:35 PM).
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Just saying Anti forced me into doing this!! So yeah um this team idek, this is my first RMT lol so I have like zeeero knowledge about this but well here goes I guess.

Tyranitar (M) @ Air Balloon
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 64 Def / 188 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Ice Beam
- Fire Blast
- Superpower

Okay so lead umm yeah it has p good coverage uhhhhh and sand storm etc.
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Reuniclus (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Focus Blast
- Recover
- Psyshock

So wasn't sure whether to go with shadow ball or psyshock but since psyshock can hit Blissey/Chansey or whatever special wall. But yeah still not really sure cause I found myself in need of sb sometimes.
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Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 104 Def / 148 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Gyro Ball
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes
- Toxic Spikes

Well obvious poky is obvious.
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Sableye (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 176 Def / 84 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt
- Recover
- Night Shade

So with entry hazards I figured I needed a sort of rapid spin blocker and Sableye is p good only he SUCKS in late game idek uhhh.
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Quagsire (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 168 Def / 88 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Stockpile
- Recover
- Scald
- Earthquake

Wasn't sure for either Gastrodon or Quaggy here but this is just it atm, Gastrodon is a killer for rain teams though, but yeah I have no idea which one'd be better cause it totally depends.
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Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 32 Def / 224 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Protect
- Aerial Ace
- Substitute
- Toxic

Yeah so I know that Aerial Ace is very weird, but I've found myself to be in trouble cause of EQ so many times due to levitators/flying types/balloons whatever that I just replaced it with something temporary.
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Old January 15th, 2012 (2:53 PM).
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    As far as Reuniclus VS Chansey / Blissey is concerned, they can't really do much to Reuniclus anyway. You can just set up Calm Mind boosts and recover any Seismic Toss attacks they throw at you. An opponent shouldn't really be keeping Blissey / Chansey in against a CM Reuniclus. The same argument should hold for most other special walls too, I would think
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    Old January 15th, 2012 (3:14 PM).
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    As far as Reuniclus VS Chansey / Blissey is concerned, they can't really do much to Reuniclus anyway. You can just set up Calm Mind boosts and recover any Seismic Toss attacks they throw at you. An opponent shouldn't really be keeping Blissey / Chansey in against a CM Reuniclus. The same argument should hold for most other special walls too, I would think
    I guess that's true, but then like, isn't it convenient if he can do physical damage with ie +4 lol? See this is where I get stuck XD
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    Old January 15th, 2012 (4:09 PM).
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    Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers / Chesto Berry (with Rest duh lol)
    Trait: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 64 Def / 188 SDef
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
    - Crunch
    - Ice Beam / Rest
    - Fire Blast
    - Stealth Rock

    Ok lead Tar wants SR, there is no reason not to include it on a team such as this or on any team, its one of if not the best move in the game. Rest is an option with Chesto Berry if you like to conserve Tyranitar, this helps vs weather teams alot. Tar loves his lefties when not using Rest. ;(
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    Reuniclus (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Magic Guard
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Focus Blast
    - Recover
    - Psyshock

    This is ok, but alternately if you find you are missing a PHazer (especially vs CMers, Celebi etc), id try Latias with CM/Roar/Pluse/Recover. This will help Vs foe Reinuclus should you choose to replace Sableye (ill go into detail shortly).

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    252 HP / 6 Def / 252 Speed
    Timid Nature
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Roar
    - Calm Mind
    - Recover

    Calm Mind up along side junk and Roar them away. This chick also helps against douches like Rotom-W who you really cant do much to otherwise. and it does heavy damage back to you currently going unchecked.

    Totally up to you but id try both in this slot and see which benefits you more.

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    Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 104 Def / 148 SDef
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Speed)
    - Gyro Ball
    - Rapid Spin
    - Spikes
    - Toxic Spikes

    Fine, but i hate forry this gen. Remember Sassy as its - speed to power up Gyro.
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    Sableye (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Prankster
    EVs: 248 HP / 176 Def / 84 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Taunt
    - Recover
    - Night Shade

    Id say Jellicent is preferable over this, mainly check BS like Politoed + water attackers on rain teams with mega strong water moves who you currently cannot which is an issue in itself. Jellicent also beats Heatran whom is an issue as you cannot touch it.

    Jellicent @ Leftovers
    248 HP / 216 Def / 48 Speed
    Bolt Nature
    Trait : Water Absorb
    - Will-o-Wisp
    - Surf
    - Taunt
    - Recover


    Burn things and Taunt to shut down stuff. Fun set.
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    Quagsire (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Unaware
    EVs: 252 HP / 168 Def / 88 SDef
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Stockpile
    - Recover
    - Scald
    - Earthquake

    Coooooool, sounds fun.
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    Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
    Trait: Poison Heal
    EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Spe
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Toxic
    - Ice Fang
    - Protect
    / Taunt

    OR

    Same evs etc.
    - Earthquake
    - Swords Dance
    - Ice Fang
    -
    Taunt


    Id honestly try a different set on this.
    You current set seems like set up fodder (sorry ;(), but yeah. You need more Def evs to beat Terrakion etc. First set is more stalling, plus you NEED EQ for things like Lucario.

    Alternately, Swords Dance set may work better as it beats Bulk Up Breloom 1 vs 1. Up to you. Taunt lets you not be set up on which is fun. Ice Fang for BS dragons and Landorus.
    To sum up changes.

    SR on Tar
    Sassy on Forry
    Different set on Glis.
    Reuniclus or Latias
    Jellicent

    Comments in bold, hope this helps a little. Good luck. ^.^
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    Old January 16th, 2012 (1:31 AM).
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    Just a little nitpick on Sableye: It will have better overall bulk with 252 HP/120 Def/136 SDef.

    On Quagsire, you can consider Toxic over Stockpile so that it can help wear down walls. Scald's burn chance may not activate at the right time to burn its targets (just something to point out).
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    Old January 16th, 2012 (2:32 AM).
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      IMO Reuniclus should have Psychic instead of Psyshock as it helps beat Conkeldurr. Bliss/Chan can be handled by repeatedly boosting with CM.

      The tyranitar can have SR, it should be handy and go well with your team which already has a spinblocker.

      Swords Dance Gliscor is much more useful than Subtect. Make it's nature Impish with probably a little more physical defense investment. Try making it a bulky boosting sweeper with the moves below-

      Swords Dance
      Earthquake
      Facade or Ice Fang
      Taunt

      I think Storm Drain Gastrodon would be exponentially better for this team with it's ability to absorb Surfs and Scalds that can otherwise trouble your team. Try this standard set-

      Gastrodon @ Leftovers

      Calm 252HP/252Sdef/4Spe

      Earth Power
      Ice Beam or Surf or Scald
      Toxic
      Recover

      You can also go mixed by replacing Earth Power with Earthquake. In that case use Sassy instead of Calm.
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      Old January 16th, 2012 (7:55 AM).
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      Hello Yoshikkko,

      This is a nice team, although I think you could make some changes to improve it. Trick Room Reuniclus with Psychic is a huge threat to your team, as Shadow Ball decimates Sableye and your own Reuniclus, while Focus Blast takes care of Forry and TTar; Psychic kills everything else. I think that Elf's suggestion [beating me to it U___U] of CM+Roar Latias is excellent insurance against this and many other threats, weather being one of them and also grants you a Phazer to better take advantage of spikes. In addition to this, Quag needs more defensive EVs; Unaware is great, but Quag's defenses are lackluster, so it needs a 252 HP/252 Def/4 Spe investment to best utilize its ability, as well as Toxic, because counting on a Scald Burn to wear down stuff like Gyara and Dragonite is a bad idea. Finally, I suggest you switch Gliscor's EVs to 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spd and give it Earthquake/Taunt/Protect/Ice Fang. This set allows Gliscor to function as a great physical wall that can beat the likes of Terrakion and most Physical Dragonite.

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      Old January 16th, 2012 (10:47 AM).
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        I guess that's true, but then like, isn't it convenient if he can do physical damage with ie +4 lol? See this is where I get stuck XD
        In fairness, with a few CM boosts, there won't really be any walls that can handle Reuniclus, regardless of which defensive stat he strikes.
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