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Old January 6th, 2005 (3:23 AM).
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My current Umbreon is this:

Baton Passer
Bold Nature(+def-atk)
Attacks:
Moonlight
Baton Pass
Double Team

Can someone give my Umbreon another attack and also, does moonlight get powered by any weather condition?

Suggest any changes that should be made
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Old January 6th, 2005 (3:56 AM).
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How about mean look? Mean look something that you're quite sure can't do enough to you so that you can't recover it off and double team away, then pass it.

Edit: Sunny Day powers up moonlight I think. Don't ask me how that works.
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Old January 6th, 2005 (11:40 AM).
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Give it an attacking attack, probably Faint Attack would work.
Sunny Day changes Moonlight to Heal Full HP, and Rain Dance changes it to Heal 1/4 HP. At least I think so if I'm wrong don't yell at me ._.
Don't give it any weather moves as the last one since you need an attack that does damage.
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Old January 6th, 2005 (12:18 PM).
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No, it isn't full HP. If a move could heal all HP, it'd be broken. It heals 2/3, I do believe, but I'm open to being wrong.

Anyway, Double Team whoring is so 2002....


-Tickle
-Toxic
-Moonlight
-Return/Confuse Ray

Defensive wall. Pseudo-hazer. Send in against Cursers and Dragon Dancers.
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Old January 6th, 2005 (1:42 PM).
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i find that toxic, mean look,baton pass,rest @ leftovers to work best with umbreon..
its beaten more than its share of ubar user's mewtwos/lugias etc
funny when the get all pissed....
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Old January 6th, 2005 (1:54 PM).
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No, it isn't full HP. If a move could heal all HP, it'd be broken. It heals 2/3, I do believe, but I'm open to being wrong.

Anyway, Double Team whoring is so 2002....


-Tickle
-Toxic
-Moonlight
-Return/Confuse Ray

Defensive wall. Pseudo-hazer. Send in against Cursers and Dragon Dancers.
Rest heals all HP, but I know what you mean. Moonlight doesn't have any negative status effects.

Moonlight/Synthesis/Morning Sun:

in rain, hail, sandstorm: 1/3
when normal: 1/2
in sunlight: 2/3
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Old January 6th, 2005 (1:55 PM).
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Umbreon- [def or sp.def + / sp.atk or atk -] @ leftovers
EV: HP, def, sp.def
-HP Dark / Return / Shadowball
-toxic
-wish / rest / moonlight
-charm / tickle (if using physical attacks) / moonlight / wish / rest

I like Umbreon to be constantly healing over confuse ray personally... the most annoying thing ever. All Umbreons of 2005 MUST have a physical attack to fight off focus punch. It's too stabled nowadays that Umbreons cannot attack and out comes all the taunt users and focus punchers. Stop them immediately by packing yourself one physical attack to yeild off focus punch.
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Old January 6th, 2005 (7:37 PM).
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You're kidding. Stop trying to make pokemon standards, you have NO clue how to use Umbreon. Annoyers don't work, and neither does attacking Umbreon. Nice try, though.
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Old January 6th, 2005 (7:48 PM).
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You're kidding. Stop trying to make pokemon standards, you have NO clue how to use Umbreon. Annoyers don't work, and neither does attacking Umbreon. Nice try, though.
hey dont go angry at them fer talking about a pokemon
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You're kidding. Stop trying to make pokemon standards, you have NO clue how to use Umbreon. Annoyers don't work, and neither does attacking Umbreon. Nice try, though.
forstweaver's Charm / Mean Look / Baton Pass / Rest (or whatever else) Umbreon works surprisingly well for a set-up to the BPed monster. I don't see any exclusively-attacking Umbreon, either.
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Old January 6th, 2005 (7:50 PM).
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I don't see any exclusively-attacking Umbreon, either.
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Umbreon- [def or sp.def + / sp.atk or atk -] @ leftovers
EV: HP, def, sp.def
-HP Dark / Return / Shadowball
-toxic
-wish / rest / moonlight
-charm / tickle (if using physical attacks) / moonlight / wish / rest

I like Umbreon to be constantly healing over confuse ray personally... the most annoying thing ever. All Umbreons of 2005 MUST have a physical attack to fight off focus punch. It's too stabled nowadays that Umbreons cannot attack and out comes all the taunt users and focus punchers. Stop them immediately by packing yourself one physical attack to yeild off focus punch.
You have the reading comprehension of Jesus himself sir
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Old January 6th, 2005 (8:06 PM).
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Pokemon is chess... that doesn't really help... anyone -.-;

I'd say frostweaver's moveset is pretty decent...

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Relaxed (+Def, - Spd); Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def
-Toxic/Confuse Ray
-Screech/Quick Attack
-Attract/Double Team/Confuse Ray
-Mean Look

Attract is more effective, but Double Team is more versatile (like against Genderless Pokémon). There are lots of more choices of course.

I'm not so good at making movesets^^;;
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Old January 6th, 2005 (8:10 PM).
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You have the reading comprehension of Jesus himself sir
He did write in the sand once, sir. Any person to reference Jesus worth his salt would know that. That was a nice try, though.

randomPoke used Sub!
Umbreon used Return!
The Sub broke!

... and so on.

One attacking move can be useful.


Edit: Nor do I see an Umbreon that devotes four move slots to damage-dealing moves.

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Old January 6th, 2005 (9:00 PM).
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So where exactly did I say he used a 4 attack Umbreon? Attacking Umbreon only suggests that he is using at least 1 attack, and a well made Umbreon set shouldn't have any. It is futile to argue with me, I'm one of the worlds best at pokemon :(

ps I dont believe in God or Jesus I just like using his name

but it's cool that you will try to pull **** and act like you have any clue about what you are talking about
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Old January 6th, 2005 (9:07 PM).
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Pokemon is chess... that doesn't really help... anyone -.-;

I'd say frostweaver's moveset is pretty decent...

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Relaxed (+Def, - Spd); Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def
-Toxic/Confuse Ray
-Screech/Quick Attack
-Attract/Double Team/Confuse Ray
-Mean Look

Attract is more effective, but Double Team is more versatile (like against Genderless Pokémon). There are lots of more choices of course.

I'm not so good at making movesets^^;;
yeah I agree
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Old January 6th, 2005 (9:10 PM).
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Tanking is what Umbreon is for, but weakness to focus punch with a standard of 4 non damage dealing moves is just asking for focus punch... possible to say "what if the opponent doesn't have focus punch?' Well what if they do? =/

Doesn't take much skill to predict that 98% of Umbreons out there just die to focus punch even if substitute isn't out there... best to be the 2% and stop the opponent from getting free focus punch. Plus, what's the point of playing a whole team of standard? Have to go out and try new things, and that's how new strategies get developped ^^

(but Umbreon cannot break 101 subs unless it's super effective)

Umbreon can go offensive as well, but then you must revert to curseons with shadow ball and return, and hp physical and etc...

And don't risk yourself to be close to getting a warning already for unnecessary rudeness or flaming =/ Let's just leave Christ out of this petty discussion...
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Old January 6th, 2005 (9:12 PM).
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Cool, Baton Pass goes before Focus Punch. Shadow Ball is such a great idea :) Watch out Medicham/Heracross, Shadow Ball is HERE TO STOP YOU

edit: I sure do try out new stuff, most of the new standards on NB were developed by me. I can use my common sense though and tell you an attacking Umbreon will never work, however
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Old January 6th, 2005 (9:25 PM). Edited January 7th, 2005 by DF dadragonz.
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yeah I agree
And that came from the guy who's just po'ing people and not posting any helpful info :D

Go ahead and move, you'll be doing us a favor ;)

On Topic: coolmaster, I suggest either waiting around for more movesets, or taking frostweaver's or Ice Demon's movesets. They're both ok.

Or you could come up with your own, if you're fealing saucy ^-^;;
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Old January 6th, 2005 (9:29 PM). Edited January 7th, 2005 by DF dadragonz.
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