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Nolafus

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Mid: Galio, Ziggs
I would just like to point out that Galio is very versatile in what lanes he can be in. I've had great success in top lane, as most of the champions up there don't have a very good poke, and I just hover behind the minion wall and spam Q all day. Once they're at low health, zoom in with your E, ult up, and you've either burned their flash, or have a kill. The only thing I seem to have trouble with is taking towers. Man, Galio can't take a tower to save his life, haha.

Another thing Galio can do is play support. He's not the greatest at it, but get paired up with a Kog Maw, and you have endless poking potential. Your ult can then be used as a guarantee escape for your ADC, or guaranteed kills. Although, the kill steal will happen once in a while. His shield and E make for a great escape combo for your ADC, and Q will slow down anybody still chasing.

I think Galio is one of the most versatile champions out there. The only thing he can't seem to do is be an ADC. Although, I've never tried, haha. Hmm...
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Yeah, there used to be times where I pick Galio top lane. Tbh I think I need to play him more, my only real issue with him is his q, it's the projectile speed, to me it seems really inconsistent. I like playing ap top lanes, used to play a lot of chogath, Vlad and some Lissandra too thinking about it. I am a terrible Vlad, but more often than not my opponent had no idea how to deal with a Vlad on lane, so you just farm up and be a split pushing terror.
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Here's my ADC champion pool that I used for ranked:

Jinx, Caitlyn, Miss Fortune, Tristana

Mostly I use Jinx as an ADC because she's pretty versatile on any sort of team comp, especially on AoE team comps which is my personal favourite, but everyone on Solo Que just picks carry champions without a tank, haha. Still though, she has decent range, and her ultimate blows people up; she's good fun! Caitlyn is pretty good for sieging because of her long range, and for her early game pressure. Early-Mid game advantage is why I sometimes pick Miss Fortune too, because despite her not really scaling that well towards late game, she's really phenomenal mid game enough that games can end pretty quickly. I usually pick her against other ADCs like Vayne or Kog Maw; you know, the ADCs who are pretty weak early game. Trist because she's Trist; her range and power is ridiculous end game, and if anything, I think they should nerf her draw a bead or rocket jump a bit, haha.

Here are the rest, which I won't explain, but, in a nutsheel, I just think that they're generally safe picks all round:

Mid: Lux, Annie, Ahri, Orianna
Support: Sona, Janna
Top: Renekton, Lulu, Garen
Jungle: Vi, Amumu


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Morgana (try morgana jungle, she's REALLY strong)
I found this pretty interesting especially given the emphasis on how strong she is, can you explain how the standard jungle path/ganks work out? I really love Morgana as a champion and I use her a lot in Support, Mid, and even Top, but I've never been brave enough to try jungle. My first thought was "how on earth would that work...", but then thinking about how much high aoe damage she has combined with her passive spell vamp I reckon she'd have an easy time clearing camps (may struggle early but I think she'd catch up quickly with her soil's scaling?) and sustaining the jungle, and with the insane range on her Q and the great follow-up with her ult I can see her ganks being incredibly effective... I'd certainly love to see her in action at least and I'm definitely interested to try her - maybe you can let me know when you're playing it some time and I'll spectate? :D
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I found this pretty interesting especially given the emphasis on how strong she is, can you explain how the standard jungle path/ganks work out? I really love Morgana as a champion and I use her a lot in Support, Mid, and even Top, but I've never been brave enough to try jungle. My first thought was "how on earth would that work...", but then thinking about how much high aoe damage she has combined with her passive spell vamp I reckon she'd have an easy time clearing camps (may struggle early but I think she'd catch up quickly with her soil's scaling?) and sustaining the jungle, and with the insane range on her Q and the great follow-up with her ult I can see her ganks being incredibly effective... I'd certainly love to see her in action at least and I'm definitely interested to try her - maybe you can let me know when you're playing it some time and I'll spectate? :D
pretty much, max Q first, and she is a GANKING jungler rather than a farming jungler, Having said that, once she gets spirit stone she sustains in the jungle very nicely. If you see the enemy jungler, just run, Morgana is very weak early.

As for clearing, Personally, I'd avoid taking the Golems and the big wraith guy (I forgot its name, >_>) nand jsut focus on ganking and/or counterganking.

Once you get Spirit of the Spectral Wraith, thats a time when you should consider farming, jsut so you can get the item stacked from 30 AP to 80 AP. your w is your main jungle sustain, as it hits AOE camps and thus heals you more.
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So, I learned something today: Rengar, even through multiple nerfs, and even a rework, is still op. I mean, he can have a 14 SECOND STEALTH. 14 SECONDS. Like, wth, if that's not op, then I don't know what is. Played a game of Rengar top yesterday, took 4 inhibis, like 10 turrets, and ALMOST completely backdoored for the w. GB + Emp. Q = 2.1 as, plus my 400 ad, I shreded the nexus down from max to 900 in the time it took for them to back and kill me. Almost got the w at that point, but we through hard. Highest killing streak in game: Me, with 23. I had 29 kills. That game was pretty much just one big long kill streak for me.
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Here are the rest, which I won't explain, but, in a nutsheel, I just think that they're generally safe picks all round:

Mid: Lux, Annie, Ahri, Orianna
Support: Sona, Janna
Top: Renekton, Lulu, Garen
Jungle: Vi, Amumu
You described these as safe picks but I don't know if I would call Amumu a safe pick he he. He get easily bullied by agressive junglers with fast clear times who can counter jungle well such as Lee Sin and Udyr. This being said most people see Amumus and immediately make it their goal to make sure he has the worst game of his life and never gets blue buff.

And one should also not listen to metal while playing league because it affects your game mentality... Welp lol
Yeah I usually either play with classical music other nothing at all. Anything else distracts me too much, although without music it's easy for your mind to wander.



Just wanted to throw this in: I recently started leveling a new account since my old one got hacked and (do)rito can't recover it (grr). Because I'm not new to the game in the slightest, I now understand the importance of runes that I didn't when I started playing. I mean, they literally just make your champion stronger for reason. You just have an immediate over people without runes from the start. Because of this I decided I'm not going to buy any champions until I have full runes, because I can easily just play champions on the free rotation. Another mistake I made while leveling initially was buying tier 1 and 2 runes. They'll probably only help you win about 20-30 games until you can buy the next tier. So my advice is just wait till level 20 and buy tier 3 runes because they will last you your entire LoL career.

I say save your IP for runes (if you want to buy a few champions just to focus on them and get good at them, choose a 450 IP champion. A champion that is 6300ip isn't necessarily any better than one that is 450. It just means they are newer.), and wait till level 20 when you can buy tier 3 runes. Just a word of advice for new players who intend on staying for the long run.

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You described these as safe picks but I don't know if I would call Amumu a safe pick he he. He get easily bullied by agressive junglers with fast clear times who can counter jungle well such as Lee Sin and Udyr. This being said most people see Amumus and immediately make it their goal to make sure he has the worst game of his life and never gets blue buff.
Well, that's why I never pick Amumu into them, haha. I usually pick Amumu when the team is lacking magic damage, or if we're going into an AoE team comp. Plus he has good clear times himself. Another thing, I don't understand jungling as much as probably the next person, but, it's not a good idea to use the same clear route everytime, no?

Mmm, well, lemme rephrase what I said: when I say 'safe picks' I mean the champions that I'm most familiar with, and understand the matchups.

That's how I went to Gold, basically.


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Thinking back to when I used to play a lot more and I was on my Silver 1 account I probably could have easily gone gold if I didn't mess around so much with what champions I played. It wasn't that I was doing troll picks, I just didn't like playing the same champion over and over. Except Lucian. I had like 75 wins as hi. In ranked .
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The thing I find hard with runes is what to do, like, I think like this:

Do you make pages to cover your weaknesses early? Or do you go for late game power?
I have 2 rune pages for ryze, one for pure late game power if I feel confident enough that I can survive in lane (all scaling mana), and the other for a very mobile enemy team, or if I want to be safe (move speed, hybrid penetration, armour and magic resist)

I go onto one of my smirks and see that I have no runes against someone who has a full rune page, it is a terror, but if you do win you feel great :D
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Do you make pages to cover your weaknesses early? Or do you go for late game power? I have 2 rune pages for ryze, one for pure late game power if I feel confident enough that I can survive in lane (all scaling mana), and the other for a very mobile enemy team, or if I want to be safe (move speed, hybrid penetration, armour and magic resist)

I go onto one of my smirks and see that I have no runes against someone who has a full rune page, it is a terror, but if you do win you feel great :D
Have you ever had a smurf? When you just start it, you go into a lane and do the things you'd normally do as a level 30... But wait, you find yourself needing to back earlier than normally? Did you play incorrectly? Did you use abilities too much? Maybe, but the main problem is your lack of early game damage and sustain because of runes and masteries. Runes specifically are meant for your early game sustain and damage (as a jungler, at least).

For example, the basic jungle runes are Flat AD reds, AD quints, Flat Armor Yellows, and Blues are usually some form of MR or CDR. The reason for this is because your clear time is usually based on auto attacks, so if you have extra AD then your early clear times will be improved. Also, camps deal physical damage so if you have extra armor to start off you'll be taking less damage.

But there are also champions that don't scale well into late game, so you'll need scaling runes like if you don't do well in late game as Ryze then scaling runes like mana, ap, or magic resist can help you.

So to answer your question, I use early game sustain and damage runes, mainly flat dmg or armor

Nolafus

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Holy crap, I just went 13/0/36 with Galio. It turns out, he can carry a team. Well, I had someone else deal the damage, but when I was paired with someone, we were practically unstoppable. It feels so good to have the enemy team complain about you on the end chat, haha.

As far as rune pages go, I must admit I don't really have a competitive one. The closest thing I have is beginning mana regen since Galio is mana hungry beginning game. Heck, I don't even really know how to browse the shop with the runes. It's all a little confusing at first.
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Nolafus

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So I tried jungling just for the heck of it, and it turns out it is possible!

I was trying out Galio, so I wasn't the fastest, but it was against bots, so I had nothing to worry about. Even got a good gank too, so yay! But it will be a while before I even consider jungling against other people.

And Garen jungle does sound pretty scary, but what makes him so good mid game?
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Lusus

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I stopped playing normal PvP at all, i'm sick and tired of being matched against plats and diamonds while my team is all around level 20 and getting stomped because of it. I'm just playing ARAM and customs with the streamer i watch atm now so i can actually have fun in between school and developing breaks.

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I still play PvP. Haven't had much trouble with it recently, I just kinda carry games. Still can't play Ranked, though. I always lose.

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Not even joking. If you have him, go into a custom game, rush sotd, and try it. IT CAN STILL CRIT. SURPIRSE, I'M BACK! HEHEHEHEHEHE
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yeah, I'm gonna give up on rankled play now, no matter how fed I get, my team seems to just throw it in the bin by making bronze level plays. like, I got demoted for a 15/5/11 game as Vi, and we only lost because our premade bot lane always refused to be with the team, was always getting picked off BECAUSE they were refusing to group and ignoring pings.

I jsut dont understand how these people even get into gold, and what infuriates me even more is how I should be penalised and demoted for other people's bad play, it's really not fair. Surely, if you get a good score you shouldn't get demoted IMO, because its a team game, your actions alone cannot determine the outcome of the game. so why should an individual who played well get punished and demoted for his teammates being stupid seen as acceptable by Riot?

I want to play ranked so I can get better, but I get nowhere because of the people i am always being put with, and to be honest, half the time, I don't feel like winning for these peoiple, because they certainly dont deserve to win, so why the hell should I carry them? I know it's a bad mentality for those on my team who are genuinely doing their best, but seriously... sometimes gold is heaven, and is sometimes worse than 'ELO Hell'.



Rant aside, I still dont know what to do with myself, I want to learn something new; something that will make me a better player mechanically. Most of the stuff I know I learned with no aid of anyone (ie no help from friends or streams) and I feel like I'm getting to the stage where I cannot learn anything by myself anymore. What should I do?
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Nolafus

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Rant aside, I still dont know what to do with myself, I want to learn something new; something that will make me a better player mechanically. Most of the stuff I know I learned with no aid of anyone (ie no help from friends or streams) and I feel like I'm getting to the stage where I cannot learn anything by myself anymore. What should I do?
I don't know if my answer will actually help, considering I'm not even level thirty yet, but have you just watched pro streams? I'm talking about the ones about them specifically playing your favorite champions. You might not learn something totally new, but it's sometimes good to analyze a person's gameplay, see where they make mistakes, and think about how you would have done it. Or, record one of your matches, and watch your gameplay to see where you could have been more efficient.

That, or try to teach the game to someone else. It's amazing how helpful it is to not only the other person, but to yourself as well. You now have to explain mechanics you only thought of before, and there's something about explaining how or why something is that makes it so much easier to grasp yourself. I don't know, just a thought.

In other news, I am with you guys on this losing streak. I've decided to pick Twitch up again, and no matter how well I do, I just can't seem to carry the team. Maybe I need to be more aggressive, but my team always manages to feed another person on the enemy team until they're able to wipe the floor with all of us, and there's not much I can do about that.

For reference, I went 22/10/17 last game, and we still lost. It was a long game, over an hour long, so everyone pretty much had their final builds, and we were dominating team fights, but one lucky backdoor dashed my hopes of victory.
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Talon

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League has gone down hill recently. With recent updates, including intro bots, Riot is feeding stupidity. They claim that intro bots will help you learn, when in reality, the fastest way to learn to play better, is to just play pvp, and skip bots; watch streams, and analyze your own gameplay. I can't win anymore. With certain champs just becoming unstoppable, and then with feeble attempts to patch that champ, they don't just nerf them to balance, they nerf them to hell and back (Ex.: Talon).

Riot wants to people to learn to play the game, but when a bronze level player gets carried by a friend to Silver, and then causes me to lose games, it's about time to look at how ranks are perceived.
The best way to decide where a player gets ranked, wouldn't be through wins and losses, because people can just be carried into higher leagues. To truly separate the good from the bad, you must look at their gameplay, and THEN decide how they get ranked. Maybe something like a formula that checks what role you were playing, what champion you were playing, the build you got, masteries, runes, skill sequence, kda, turrets, objectives, cs, etc., and then compare it to the rest of the players, and see how well they played. From that information, they get ranked. It would work well, and people couldn't just get carried as easily as they do.
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"Everybody wants to go to Heaven, but nobody wants to die."

"A man said to the universe,
'Sir! I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'the fact has not created in me a sense of obligation.'
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