5th Gen Boo!! The Battle Subway is left unchanged!

Started by DarkWolf13 July 5th, 2012 5:11 AM
  • 3238 views
  • 26 replies
  • Poll

Would you still play the Battle Subway even though it hasn't changed one bit?

DarkWolf13

Battle Subway Editor

Male
RF HQ
Seen 4 Weeks Ago
Posted August 13th, 2021
256 posts
11.5 Years
I just checked out information from one of the Pokemon sites and I am shocked and disappointed! Despite the addition of the PWT, the Battle Subway has been left UNCHANGED!! It's the same old trainers from BW with the same exact teams and it's the same exact way with the partner (Opposite gender of the hero with the same option of teams with ONLY Unova Pokemon). Dang! I thought they will at least slightly change the subway database by adding all the old Pokemon that became part of the new Unova Pokedex. What is your reaction? Discuss!
All forum members BEWARE OF THE DARK WOLF..!

Ho-Oh

used Sacred Fire!

Age 31
Female
QLD, Australia
Seen June 5th, 2022
Posted April 23rd, 2022
35,988 posts
17.5 Years
Personally, I think it's due to the world tournament. :x It's such a big selling point of B2W2, and the subway was more of a selling point of BW, so expanding upon that would be kind of strange considering there's all this work/effort going towards the tournament. I may still use it occasionally, idk, or I might just use B/W's. I really don't mind that it hasn't changed!

Sydian

fake your death.

Age 30
they/them
Georgia
Seen May 22nd, 2022
Posted November 29th, 2021
33,354 posts
15.2 Years
^ You'll survive. Anyway, I didn't expect any changes to Battle Subway really. With all the other things added in the games, it's not much of a surprise. It looks like some prizes got their prices lowered though, so that's enough to make me happy.
BURY ME SIX FEET DEEP COVER ME IN CONCRETE
twitter | twitch | youtube
Age 28
Male
Oregon
Seen September 24th, 2018
Posted July 3rd, 2018
17,520 posts
13.1 Years
Well that's disappointing, I was sure they'll at least include the new pokémon to the Unova dex in the normal trains. Considering that we get BP from the tournament there really isn't much reason to play in the imo less fun Battle Subway.
I'm currently working on some novels. If you're interested you can read them here:
https://www.wattpad.com/user/ImperialSun

droomph

weeb

Age 26
Male
nowhere spectacular
Seen February 1st, 2017
Posted January 3rd, 2017
4,282 posts
11.7 Years
If you've done a ROM hack or a RMXP game, you'll know that adding things takes up a lot of time. So it's no surprise that they haven't got around to changing details of unimportant side-quests like the Battle Subway yet.

And what MRAS said is true...the Battle Subway is boring tbqh.
did u no there r 21 letters in the alphabet
o i forgot 5
uraqt


Male
America
Seen September 21st, 2016
Posted July 11th, 2012
109 posts
11.1 Years
^ True. "unimportant" is a little harsh... but yet so true.
So much for 2 years. Did the Subway Bosses just sit in there twiddling their thumbs? Did they at least get some sort of sprite change? I was hoping for some kind of extension but oh well. I guess G.F. decided to put all their effort into the P.W.T. which I will go to instead.

PlatinumDude

Nyeh?

Age 29
Male
Canada
Seen July 31st, 2020
Posted May 30th, 2020
12,958 posts
12.7 Years
UGH UGH UGHHHHH i hateeee this are you saying that there are no non-unova poke's in the subway AT ALLLL?!?!?? UGGGGGHHHHH
Indeed, there are non-Unova Pokemon in the Battle Subway after you get the National Dex.

Anyway, it kind of stinks that the Battle Subway was left unchanged. I mean, they could've integrated the new move tutors on the Subway Pokemon.

Hikamaru

Age 30
Female
Australia
Seen January 24th, 2019
Posted September 4th, 2018
50,214 posts
12.2 Years
Yeah, Hikari is disappointed the Battle Subway had NO CHANGES AT ALL!

Particularly no move tutor moves, exact same Trainers and only Unova Pokemon until you get the National Dex.

I guess I might do more of the PWT instead.
Gone forever for personal reasons.
Visit my Tumblr page if you wish to contact me.

http://daikenkki.tumblr.com/

DarkWolf13

Battle Subway Editor

Male
RF HQ
Seen 4 Weeks Ago
Posted August 13th, 2021
256 posts
11.5 Years
I think I'm gonna go with the PWT or the Black Skyscraper/WHite Tree Hollow instead because the Pokemon there got tutoring moves in their movesets plus there's a HUGE variety. I still have hopes that Challenge Mode may change it... if not, then what's the point of going through the same old Battle Subway besides for competitive reasons.
All forum members BEWARE OF THE DARK WOLF..!

Aquarius1997

The Horoscopical Master

Age 26
Male
In your dreams with my wife Rihanna
Seen December 28th, 2015
Posted August 10th, 2012
200 posts
11.1 Years
Im pissed but i can understand why GF didnt change it
They added TWO new features to the games why would they enhance the battle subway
(same reason why the pokemon musical wasnt enhanced because there is a new and better pokewood)
.
ONLY ME HA!!!

The Aquarius loves a party. Anytime, anywhere is their motto. It is not unlikely that an Aquarius will consider a wake a good place to meet chicks. Aquarians love to be naked. It is even better if they are naked and crocked. Froot Loops is a very Aquarian cereal. So is Rice Krispies, since it will engage in a friendly chat with the Aquarian as he or she is eating breakfast. Count Chocula is off-limits, however. It belongs to the Scorpios. Aquarians use the phrase "Dude, man..." frequently when describing philosophical concepts. Aquarians have out-of-body experiences on a daily basis. If you are talking to an Aquarian and he or she zones out, consider the conversation hopeless. He or she is talking to the guy three feet away from you. Aquarians are fun because they channel people. Plus, if you tell them to, they will run around naked. Aquarians like astronomy because they've been to all those places. If you want to know what the food is like on Saturn, ask an Aquarius. Aquarians can allow themselves every possible vice on the planet, and don't think twice about it. That is why they piss everyone else off. They are cosmically entitled to do this.

Satoshi Ookami

Memento Mori

Age 30
Male
Abyss of Time, Great Seal
Seen August 5th, 2018
Posted July 3rd, 2018
14,253 posts
14.8 Years
Damn! I was looking forward to a Rotation Battle Subway Line. There are no places in the game to do some sweet Rotation Battles for hours on end.
Ever heard of PWT? :D
You can have unlimited amount of Rotation Battles there ;)

It looks like some prizes got their prices lowered though, so that's enough to make me happy.
I agree with you :D

I believe it's unchanged so we can have enough BPs to get items =D
ROM hacking FAQ - Read before asking how to play a hack.

Anime List | PSN Trophy List

Xander Olivieri

Seen 1 Week Ago
Posted November 8th, 2022
5,616 posts
13 Years
Another possible reason why they weren't changed, B2W2 can link up with B/W for Tag Subway battles. Subway was still there to replace Battle Tower and you could link up for that too. So since B2W2 could Wifi Link with a friend who owns B/W for Battle Subway, its more that they couldn't update it without breaking compatibility.

vaporeon7

My life would suck without you

Male
Preparing for trouble and making it double.
Seen September 6th, 2016
Posted May 27th, 2014
5,143 posts
12.8 Years
Another possible reason why they weren't changed, B2W2 can link up with B/W for Tag Subway battles. Subway was still there to replace Battle Tower and you could link up for that too. So since B2W2 could Wifi Link with a friend who owns B/W for Battle Subway, its more that they couldn't update it without breaking compatibility.
I think this is probably a major reason, I don't think difficulty has anything to with it, the super subways were still relatively easy before 21 anyway. It would've been nice to see some Beedrill and Seaking with Drill Run in there though.

Xander Olivieri

Seen 1 Week Ago
Posted November 8th, 2022
5,616 posts
13 Years
I had no doubts that they wouldn't change the lineup to maintain consistency, but compatibility isn't the reason this time either. Host game (yes, Xander, similar situation) decides trainers and the trainers' Pokémon - it's why when a Japanese game is the leader, the Battle Subway trainer names are Japanese even in a game of a different language (the phrases they speak pre-battle are selected from a pre-defined pool, so they'll always be in the right language). The game decides how to deal with Pokémon accordingly based off data from the host.

That's to say they could've changed it. They simply didn't.

I'm sure what some people may have been looking for is an extension to the Battle Subway - what about more lines? A bit more extension to the single player lines?

I suppose you could compare it to HG/SS and how those games handled the Battle Frontier.
Actually in terms of B2W2 getting new Trains to ride that wouldn't be correct as there wouldn't be proper corresponding trains for B/W players to get on to join the battle. If there were a Rotation battle train in B2W2 and not in B/W then B/W wouldn't be able to battle in Rotation Battles in Tag Mode (Albeit I doubt that would be possible anyway) But since that battle train does't exist the B/W player wouldn't be compatible to join in.

So Compatibility is a minor issue with that. I understand what you are saying and everything, but if there is a specific battle format in one game and not in another, then they aren't compatible to battle between or proper link up.

silverexorcist

Individualism in Normalcy!

Male
Evergrande, Hoenn
Seen June 18th, 2013
Posted April 6th, 2013
104 posts
10.9 Years
I was honestly surprised that they even kept the Battle Subway at all. Of course, I grind through it constantly for BP, but the Pokemon World Tournament is basically a much better version of the Battle Subway, so I can't imagine what use the Subway has. But I suppose they found that keeping it would cause less trouble then devising a reason for getting rid of it for the plot. With that logic, I'm not surprised that it is unchanged. Slightly dissapointed, yes, but if someone really has a problem with it, they can just ignore the subway and go to the Pokemon World Tournament. If someone prefers the older style with the Subway, they can still do it. Everybody wins in the end.
Fanfics:
An avid writer, willing to join any worthwhile creative writing effort. For the Gs: Google, Games, and Gallade!!!
Because if we can't protect the earth, you can be damned well sure we'll avenge it. -Red, Pokemon Adventures

Livewire

Male
Sunnyshore City
Seen December 3rd, 2022
Posted August 2nd, 2019
14,091 posts
13.8 Years
The Battle Subway isn't really that important anymore, not with the World Tournament going on & being the big selling point of BW2. I don't really care either way, though. New updates and changes are always good.
Age 28
Male
Oregon
Seen September 24th, 2018
Posted July 3rd, 2018
17,520 posts
13.1 Years
I can see why they didn't change it now, as Xander and other's have said, it's proably due to compability issues.
I'm currently working on some novels. If you're interested you can read them here:
https://www.wattpad.com/user/ImperialSun

Haseyo

쏘쿨

Male
Maryland
Seen August 4th, 2012
Posted July 31st, 2012
254 posts
10.9 Years
I barely touched the Subway in the firs B/W, and with PWT I probably won't touch it at all unless there are just certain TMs / hold items I only can get in there. I know there are some medals that require winning streaks in the Subway but...they can wait.