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Old January 24th, 2005 (2:52 PM).
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heres a sub punch themed team i made... rate... dont give me those lame standards like PUT CALM MIND ON ALAKAZAM!!!! and HAVE CURSE LAX ITS MUCH BETTER!!!... its a themed team, get it through your head

Alakazam (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 38 HP / 152 Atk / 252 Spd / 68 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Psychic
- Recover
- Substitute

i have those cuz none of my other pokes can take care of weezing, speed for starts

Rhydon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Lightning Rod
EVs: 214 HP / 170 Atk / 53 Def / 13 Spd / 60 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Flamethrower
- Focus Punch
- Rock Blast
- Substitute

switch in on jack -> sub -> rock blast, sup

Hariyama (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 208 HP / 157 Atk / 125 Def / 20 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Counter
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Substitute

w/ onimusha's help... yep its way underestimated... stabbed hp flying barely does half... COUNTER

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 241 HP / 168 Atk / 63 Def / 38 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Shadow Ball
- Substitute
- Yawn

yawn is fun

Marowak (M) @ Thick Club
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 161 HP / 160 Atk / 101 Def / 88 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bonemerang
- Focus Punch
- Rock Slide
- Substitute

i think marowak is way overlooked and just randomly put s dance and make it a sweeper... umm thick club + 150 powered attack... err... coma anyone?

Breloom (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 120 HP / 252 Atk / 100 Spd / 38 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Sludge Bomb
- Spore
- Substitute

the most famous focus puncher... cant have a focus punch themed team w/o it

im thinking of having golduck > alakazam cuz i cant touch waters and it can learn psychic as well...

rate away?
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Old January 24th, 2005 (4:08 PM).
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Interesting, this is good, but a subpunching Zam, I'd say Golduck over Zam too. Zam's not really for attack anyway, it could catch people off guard, because they think you'll be using the standard.:D
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Old January 24th, 2005 (10:47 PM).
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I know that this is SUBpunching team, but you might consider Spore over Sub on Breloom to catch your opponents off guard, escpecially considering that all of your Pokemon have the exact same two moves.
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Old January 24th, 2005 (10:55 PM).
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If he has spore over Sub it's not really a SUB puncher is it now?
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Old January 24th, 2005 (11:28 PM).
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If he has spore over Sub it's not really a SUB puncher is it now?
Yes, I already acknowledged that in my first post. However, the effect is the same. It was just an option to consider.
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Old January 25th, 2005 (12:41 AM).
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I know that this is SUBpunching team, but you might consider Spore over Sub on Breloom to catch your opponents off guard, escpecially considering that all of your Pokemon have the exact same two moves.
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Breloom (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 120 HP / 252 Atk / 100 Spd / 38 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Sludge Bomb
- Spore
- Substitute
>.>;;

Overall, nice subpunching theme. I agree, Golduck > Zam. Alakazam's attack is... well, sucky... Golduck's is more than 150% larger than Alakazam. Yeah, and I'd replace HP Bug with Psychic if I was using Golduck, but that's just me ^^;;
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Old January 25th, 2005 (1:10 PM).
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imo return over yawn for snorlax, stab is nice. and I like cb version of hariyama over that version, but both work, being that hariyama is fat and cool.
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Old January 25th, 2005 (1:36 PM).
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I like Yawn for the pseudohaze, but it does limit the options for Snorlax.

Maybe Fire Blast for Flamethrower for Rhydon to bump up the damage (notlike he has a huge Sp Att after all.)

If you're having Water problems with your team, why not use Zam after all and put Thunderpunch over Recover? I know the Attack is horrid, but it'll cover your weaknesses a bit better.
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Old January 25th, 2005 (6:12 PM).
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I know that this is SUBpunching team, but you might consider Spore over Sub on Breloom to catch your opponents off guard, escpecially considering that all of your Pokemon have the exact same two moves.
get phonix

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Yeah, and I'd replace HP Bug with Psychic if I was using Golduck, but that's just me ^^;;
weezing, own me

honestly, do ppl read the little notes before rating? >.>

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I like Yawn for the pseudohaze, but it does limit the options for Snorlax.

Maybe Fire Blast for Flamethrower for Rhydon to bump up the damage (notlike he has a huge Sp Att after all.)

If you're having Water problems with your team, why not use Zam after all and put Thunderpunch over Recover? I know the Attack is horrid, but it'll cover your weaknesses a bit better.
yey, a good rater finally =]
accuracy has not been w/ me so fb is not an option
and i swapped t punch > recover and it 3-4 koed cune and got koed in no time... anyway, i changed kazam to

Golduck (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Damp
EVs: 51 HP / 153 Atk / 252 Spd / 54 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Psychic
- Substitute
- Surf
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Old January 25th, 2005 (8:48 PM).
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hi the most famous subpuncher is mcgar and/or the new standard tyraniboah and you have neither you suck
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Old January 25th, 2005 (9:32 PM).
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hi the most famous subpuncher is mcgar and/or the new standard tyraniboah and you have neither you suck
i dont like kazam so i wont like gengar...

and y would i have t tar on a team that relies on sub? sandstream will screw the whole team over besides rhydon =P
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Old January 26th, 2005 (2:37 AM).
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Just thought I'd tell people malevolent internet is another gimmick account.

And uh, Subpunch Gengar is probably one of the worst ideas I've ever heard.

A Focus Punch to run off an attack stat THAT bad!?

You gotta be smoking somthing weird.
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Old January 26th, 2005 (9:04 AM).
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McGar is used to counter skarmbliss =/ and focuspunch does about 40-45% to bliss. So its not horrible when used right but I prefer the special gengar or the exploding one =[

I still say amphy over kazam/golduck <3 <3 <3
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Old January 26th, 2005 (1:26 PM).
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Just thought I'd tell people malevolent internet is another gimmick account.

And uh, Subpunch Gengar is probably one of the worst ideas I've ever heard.

A Focus Punch to run off an attack stat THAT bad!?

You gotta be smoking somthing weird.
you are new to pokemon or something, probably why it is so easy to beat you

mcgar and mcicegar, substitute/shadow ball/focus punch/thunderbolt and substitute/ice punch/thunderbolt/focus punch are still the standard gengars. ****ing idiot. that is like the longest living and most well known set in RS ._.

ps nitrous it does about 60%
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Old January 26th, 2005 (1:31 PM).
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I like how you didn't comment on how dumb focus punch alakazam was, lion heart ^_^
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Old January 26th, 2005 (1:52 PM).
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lion heart I'd like to point out how normal ppl can tell a gimmick account, and do not need your help finding them.
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Old January 27th, 2005 (8:52 AM).
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you are new to pokemon or something, probably why it is so easy to beat you

mcgar and mcicegar, substitute/shadow ball/focus punch/thunderbolt and substitute/ice punch/thunderbolt/focus punch are still the standard gengars. ****ing idiot. that is like the longest living and most well known set in RS ._.

ps nitrous it does about 60%
i need more attack evs on mine then =[
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Old January 27th, 2005 (5:06 PM).
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you are new to pokemon or something, probably why it is so easy to beat you

mcgar and mcicegar, substitute/shadow ball/focus punch/thunderbolt and substitute/ice punch/thunderbolt/focus punch are still the standard gengars. ****ing idiot. that is like the longest living and most well known set in RS ._.

ps nitrous it does about 60%
McGar isn't the standard for Gengar. It's simply an anti-SkarmBliss that sucks. Calling LionHeart a ****ing idiot because you disagree with him is not too nice. Also, there are many better SkarmBliss counters (Blaziken is an example). Wasting Gengar's great Sp Atk for physical attacks is a bad idea considering his attack is considerably lower than a Golbat's. Please don't go around cursing people and calling McGar the standard. Thank you.
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Old January 27th, 2005 (5:14 PM).
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McGar isn't the standard for Gengar. It's simply an anti-SkarmBliss that sucks. Calling LionHeart a ****ing idiot because you disagree with him is not too nice. Also, there are many better SkarmBliss counters (Blaziken is an example). Wasting Gengar's great Sp Atk for physical attacks is a bad idea considering his attack is considerably lower than a Golbat's. Please don't go around cursing people and calling McGar the standard. Thank you.
It IS standard because it IS anti-skarmory and blissey =/ (The standard now is fp/t-bolt/sub/icepunch I think) Doesn't matter if you "waste his attack" because you use his physical attacks against blissey =x

Gengar is practically impossible to predict against too =[
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Old January 27th, 2005 (5:20 PM).
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McGar isn't the standard for Gengar. It's simply an anti-SkarmBliss that sucks. Calling LionHeart a ****ing idiot because you disagree with him is not too nice. Also, there are many better SkarmBliss counters (Blaziken is an example). Wasting Gengar's great Sp Atk for physical attacks is a bad idea considering his attack is considerably lower than a Golbat's. Please don't go around cursing people and calling McGar the standard. Thank you.
and who the **** are you? Whether you like it or not, McIceGar is the standard for Gengar. Get lost, random.
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Old January 27th, 2005 (5:46 PM).
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Other than the fact Icebeam Blissey can royally screw McIceGar tenfold after a single subpunch, McIceGar IS the standard. I used to use it and I still would if only I wasn't so paranoid about Raikou (I put Venusaur over gar nowadays)
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Old January 27th, 2005 (8:03 PM).
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Gengar used Focus Punch!
Gengar broke his hand because he is so weak!
Random Pokemon now walks all over Gengar!

Blastoise and Raichu are pretty good Sub-Punchers awell btw.
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Old January 27th, 2005 (8:33 PM).
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Gengar used Focus Punch!
Gengar broke his hand because he is so weak!
Random Pokemon now walks all over Gengar!

Blastoise and Raichu are pretty good Sub-Punchers awell btw.
cool way to miss the point, you aren't going to be focus punching random pokemon, just things weak to fighting. for the other pokemon you obviously will use thunderbolt and ice punch off his massive special attack.
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Old January 27th, 2005 (9:59 PM).
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cool way to miss the point, you aren't going to be focus punching random pokemon, just things weak to fighting. for the other pokemon you obviously will use thunderbolt and ice punch off his massive special attack.
go away you **** gimmick you know nothing about pokemon
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