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Old July 13th, 2004 (10:33 AM).
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    right this card is definately genuine because i got it in an official neo discovery booster pack. it's very odd looking: the top-left corner says "basic pokemon" then "mewtwo", and the picture is a shiny mewtwo with a pink/purple background. most of the card appears to be holographic (?). it has a resistance to , 80HP and a retreat cost of .

    right, now apart from all those things and the presence of the "neo discovery" pyramid-esque logo at the bottom-right corner of the picture, the card is A BASE SET 2 ZAPDOS!??!?!
    the length and weight stats are zapdos, it says "electric pokemon", the background is yellow, it has the symbol in the top-left corner, it has zapdos' "thunder" and "thunderbolt" attacks with the correct energy costs, it has a weakness, it has the description box at the bottom for zapdos, and the bottom-right corner of the card says "20/130".

    the only other difference between this and a regular zapdos is that damage value for the "thunder" attack is in the wrong FONT, that there is no damage value for the "thunderbolt" attack, that this card has 10 less HP than base 2 zapdos, and also "thunder" does only 50 damage on this card as opposed to 60 on base 2 zapdos.

    the picture APPEARS to be that of the 1st movie promo mewtwo, yet the mewtwo's pose is mirrored, and the background is pink/purple and shiny.

    i have looked extensively for information about this card on the internet, with no results. can someone please give me some info, tell me whether it IS unique, and give me some kind of value estimate.

    here's my card:



    and for reference here's the pic from 1st movie promo mewtwo:



    and a regular base set 2 zapdos:




    thankyou

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    Old July 13th, 2004 (11:05 AM).
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      Old July 13th, 2004 (11:27 AM).
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        MAN there is no-one here AT ALL. i'm off
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        Old July 13th, 2004 (9:31 PM).
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          I'm thinking that this card must be a fake. Did you check the package to see if it was identical to another one?
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          Old July 14th, 2004 (4:50 AM).
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            That thing's a fake. Look at the font of the attack damage and compare it to other "50" damage atacks in that set. It's completely different. Also, most of the text font is out of whack. And, wow, that name font is completely wrong.

            That's a fake card, and u got jypped with those boosters.
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            Old July 14th, 2004 (9:24 AM).
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              Judging as how the picture of the card is bright, while the rest of the card is faded (obviously because of the scanner.) I am guessing that you photoshopped the card, since the text on MEWTWO is REALLY bad..

              I don't want to be accusing you of lying, but I am just stating my opinon that from what I can tell, the card was completly photshopped.
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              Old July 14th, 2004 (4:02 PM).
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                That should be fake. Or something, becase it is not real.
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                Old July 14th, 2004 (9:02 PM).
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                  That should be fake. Or something, becase it is not real.
                  I think it is real you cant belive it because it is a really rare stuffup
                  it might be fake eh?
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                  Old July 15th, 2004 (7:41 AM).
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                    It can't be real pichbob. The font on the name "Mewtwo" is extremely wrong and others already mentioned the attack and the damage. I am 100% sure it is a fake. Why would Mewtwo be Electric type anyway?
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                    Old July 15th, 2004 (8:07 AM).
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                      Judging as how the picture of the card is bright, while the rest of the card is faded (obviously because of the scanner.) I am guessing that you photoshopped the card, since the text on MEWTWO is REALLY bad..

                      I don't want to be accusing you of lying, but I am just stating my opinon that from what I can tell, the card was completly photshopped.

                      I agree. A bad photoshop job.
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                      Old July 15th, 2004 (8:23 AM). Edited July 15th, 2004 by Ryan.
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                        I know that the people who make Pokemon Cards (Wizards of the Coast in this case) do sometimes make mistakes (like Nintendo did with Sandstorm Marril) but they would not make a mistake this big. It is fake. Not saying that you did lie, just saying that I think you did.

                        EDIT: The same guy went to the PokeGym forums and said the same thing and everyone there says it is fake also. Here is the link if anyone wants it.http://www.pokegym.net/showthread.php?t=8625
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                        Old December 10th, 2004 (1:42 AM).
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                          Old December 10th, 2004 (3:16 AM).
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                            it has Zapdos's description at thebottom, and says zapdos on the attacks
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                            Old December 10th, 2004 (4:29 AM).
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                              lol if your going to give us a good convo about if a card is fake atleast give us a challenge! i bet if any of us saw it in real life it would be some zapdos card and some newb cut out a mewtwo pic and stapled it on infront of zapdos lol
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                              Old December 10th, 2004 (5:32 AM).
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                                Why'd you waste our time man, who would believe that is real, that merely some computer work put into it and some cutting work, then some lying work then some running away from the pros that you didnt trick work man.
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                                Old December 10th, 2004 (4:02 PM).
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                                  Old December 10th, 2004 (4:58 PM).
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                                    Old December 10th, 2004 (5:35 PM).
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                                      oltigro did. Notice how he posted today, and the last post before that was back in July. o.O;
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                                        right this card is definately genuine because i got it in an official neo discovery booster pack. it's very odd looking: the top-left corner says "basic pokemon" then "mewtwo", and the picture is a shiny mewtwo with a pink/purple background. most of the card appears to be holographic (?). it has a resistance to , 80HP and a retreat cost of .

                                        right, now apart from all those things and the presence of the "neo discovery" pyramid-esque logo at the bottom-right corner of the picture, the card is A BASE SET 2 ZAPDOS!??!?!
                                        the length and weight stats are zapdos, it says "electric pokemon", the background is yellow, it has the symbol in the top-left corner, it has zapdos' "thunder" and "thunderbolt" attacks with the correct energy costs, it has a weakness, it has the description box at the bottom for zapdos, and the bottom-right corner of the card says "20/130".

                                        the only other difference between this and a regular zapdos is that damage value for the "thunder" attack is in the wrong FONT, that there is no damage value for the "thunderbolt" attack, that this card has 10 less HP than base 2 zapdos, and also "thunder" does only 50 damage on this card as opposed to 60 on base 2 zapdos.

                                        the picture APPEARS to be that of the 1st movie promo mewtwo, yet the mewtwo's pose is mirrored, and the background is pink/purple and shiny.

                                        i have looked extensively for information about this card on the internet, with no results. can someone please give me some info, tell me whether it IS unique, and give me some kind of value estimate.

                                        here's my card:



                                        and for reference here's the pic from 1st movie promo mewtwo:



                                        and a regular base set 2 zapdos:




                                        thankyou
                                        I have a Mewtwo which has the description of a Zapdos, and it's attacks. HP oh 550. It has 2nd edition and two stars where it would have the jungle/fossil type picture nomrally. Its so weird. . .
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                                        Old September 30th, 2012 (8:09 PM).
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                                          Old October 1st, 2012 (6:17 AM).
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                                          By the way, the card discussed by the OP is clearly a fake, and I didn't even have to read the whole thread to know that, and the card cookiemuncha posted that they have is a fake as well. The dead giveaways are the attacks in a different font from normal, the 550 HP, the Mewtwo picture on the body of a Zapdos card, the Neo Discovery symbol on a Base to Rocket era card style, and a few other signs.
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