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Captain Gizmo

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I'm not surprised, lol. People in Montreal can smoke weed in front of cops and they won't do anything about it, lol. Take my old high school for example, they had teenagers that would go out in front of the school to smoke some cigarettes or weed. You could basically get high by all the fumes that they emanated lol.
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Normally classmates wouldn't have to do it. It's appropriate at my work, though - client vs. service person. The little kids use "vous" with me, but same-age or older use "tu." I always try to use "vous," unless I get too comfortable, have had the person by my cash already or if the person is like, five.

Losing marks for that... I can understand if you weren't using "vous" for the teacher; otherwise, it really doesn't matter and it's appropriate, unless you're in front of the WHOLE class. Then you would use "vous" because you're addressing a lot of people.
I think it was moreso because the teacher himself knew very little French, and assumed that you had to use vous as a sign of respect even with a very trivial 1 year age gap. Even at that point I knew it seemed a little silly (considering my previous teacher told us to use tu with each other), but everyone just seemed to play along with it.

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Strange that since it was just recently brought up, I heard on the news today that roughly 3/4 of BC residents support research in legalizing marijuana. It wouldn't be legal right away, but instead there would be research done on how much money could be made both through the taxation and actual growing of marijuana itself, and if it could turn the province a good profit, steps would be taken to legalize it.

Like I said, I wouldn't ever use the stuff myself, but if it could help boost the provincial economy, I say why not legalize and regulate it, since it's less harmful than either alcohol or cigarettes. If it could also cut down the number of drug related crime and arrests, that'd free up the police for more important things, too (things like marijuana DUIs would still be tracked, though).

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I thought "s'il-te plait" translated as "If you please."

Anyways, yeah. Gotta do a pamphlet featuring a destination and it all has to be in French. Gosh it's hard .__.
SVP could mean different things, depending on the way you're using it.
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I thought "s'il-te plait" translated as "If you please."

Anyways, yeah. Gotta do a pamphlet featuring a destination and it all has to be in French. Gosh it's hard .__.
More or less.

Si = If
Il = It (Because the "it" is unknown at this point, masculine form is used)
Te = You
Plait = Pleases

If it was "if you please," it would be "Si tu plais." Verb form is a big hint here that it's a reflection of "Il" - meaning "It" - and not "Tu." In fact, if it was written "S'il-te plais," it wouldn't make sense.

On a side-note, just saying "Si tu plais" doesn't make sense without a context.


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"Si" can actually mean three things.

1. In conditional, it means "If."

When "Si" is conditional, it will always be followed by some sort of "If x, then y" statement:

"Si tu ne complètes pas tes devoirs, tu recevras une mauvaise note."
2. In response to a negative accusation, it can mean "Yes."

By using "Si" after an accusation to rebuttal, your point or sentence is "stronger" than if you use simply "Oui."

Genevieve : "Tu n'as pas fait tes devoirs."
Etienne : "Si, je les ai faits."
3. In regards to an intensifier, it can mean "So."

Much like tellement and très. I find them to be generally interchangeable; however, in degree, I find that "tellement" is the most powerful, then "Si" followed by "Très." It doesn't really matter, though.

"Je suis tellement heureuse !"
"Je suis si heureuse !"
"Je suis très heureuse !"


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Now that we have a French club, we should probably keep the very specific French discussion (as in, stuff not really related to Canada) over there. n_n;
Strange that since it was just recently brought up, I heard on the news today that roughly 3/4 of BC residents support research in legalizing marijuana. It wouldn't be legal right away, but instead there would be research done on how much money could be made both through the taxation and actual growing of marijuana itself, and if it could turn the province a good profit, steps would be taken to legalize it.

Like I said, I wouldn't ever use the stuff myself, but if it could help boost the provincial economy, I say why not legalize and regulate it, since it's less harmful than either alcohol or cigarettes. If it could also cut down the number of drug related crime and arrests, that'd free up the police for more important things, too (things like marijuana DUIs would still be tracked, though).
I'm on board if only for taxation reasons, but I'd kind of prefer if marijuana stays illegal. I absolutely cannot stand the smell so the less people able to or seeking to smoke it, the better, imo. :P


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I'm on board if only for taxation reasons, but I'd kind of prefer if marijuana stays illegal. I absolutely cannot stand the smell so the less people able to or seeking to smoke it, the better, imo. :P
I've always felt taxation and the amount of drug related arrests going down are pretty good reasons for legalization. But, I do have to agree that the smell of it is awful, and many including myself would like to stay as far away from it as possible. Unfortunately I've just got to deal with it though, since if you go anywhere near downtown you can smell it somewhere (I don't even want to imagine what it was like today being 4/20 and all). Maybe an "under the influence" law similar to that of public intoxication could be tacked on, too, so we could keep it away from public areas, but people would be free to use it within the law.

EDIT: Actually, after looking it up, Colorado's Amendmant 64 does almost exactly what I proposed, so I guess it wouldn't be unprecedented if BC were to adopt it.

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I don't have any experience or damning second/third-hand experience, but is being under the influence of marijuana considered "intoxication"? Because I hear from everybody who's told me that it doesn't really do much in terms of your judgement.

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I don't know if it's really intoxication so much, but I'm probably not the one to be asking about it, either. It definitely does affect your judgement a little bit (slower reaction times, some disorientation, etc.), but to what extent vs. alcohol or other drugs I'm not so sure. I guess it would also depend on how much marijuana was actually consumed- following CO's amendment, it allows no more than one ounce in your possession.

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Wow, that sounds pretty legit. And most people would grow their own so they don't have to buy it from drug dealers eh? Plus legal stores too - it seems that marijuana will go mainstream and cease to become a thing any longer.

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It does seem to be the way that things are heading, now that the stigma behind marijuana is diminishing. It wouldn't surprise me if we see something similar to Colorado's law adopted in BC within the next 2-3 years (depending on how the upcoming election goes), and I'm sure other provinces would begin following suit down the line as well.

Also, off that topic, the Toronto Maple Leafs officialy qualified the playoffs tonight for the first time since 2004 (every other team in the league besides Toronto has been in them since then). I'm not the biggest fan of the team, but after how bad they've played the last few years, I can imagine there'll be a big sense of excitement in and around the city for the next couple of weeks.

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I'm one of those males who doesn't follow sports at all. Only during Olympics time :P
That's like me! XD

Does not bother me

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http://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/don-cherry-says-men-s-locker-room-no-place-for-women-1.1257383

I don't know why it's "wrong" for him to say women shouldn't be in men's locker rooms. But that's apparently the overwhelming response on Twitter. I think the privacy of both genders should be respected, but nooooo I guess that's wrong. What are these people thinking?

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I'm actually on the fence about this one, but then again, as a guy I'd still find it awkward conducting an interview while half-naked guys are walking around, nevermind as a female reporter (and I'd find it much more awkward being interviewed by anyone regardless of gender just a minute after hopping out of the shower). Then again, that's part of their job as sports reporters, so I assume it doesn't even bother them at this point.

What I think people are more upset over anything else is the way that he worded his comments. Some of the issue is that people are only taking a very small piece of the comment ("I don't feel women are equal...") and bashing him as if he said that as a standalone statement. It also doesn't help that Don has a much different view of the way the game should be than that of the current generation (European players are soft, you need to be able to dish out hits and be able to take them to be a good player, etc.). But, I think that's a main reason he's still on TV- he'll encite a reaction from the viewers, either good or bad, which will keep them from changing the channel during an intermission. It's not the first time he's said an arguably stupid thing on TV, and I'm sure it won't be the last.

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I'd prefer a common area, a reporter scrum. Just because I find the interviews in the changeroom thing to be super weird - regardless of reporter gender.

But, as that isn't the case I see no reason why a female reporter shouldn't be able to perform her job as best she can. No problem with her being in the men's change room. That's her job. Equality.

If the players feel uncomfortable (which Cherry seemed to be saying, rather than the reporter being uncomfortable), then put your pants on. Game after game after game. It isn't a surprise there's going to be reporters there. Be decent and wait the ten minutes before getting undressed

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I wouldn't like it if people started bursting into the changeroom during high school. And I don't see why reporters should have it easy just because they're dealing with professionals. The changeroom is a place for the players, not for people who make their living by intruding on other people's drama. Doing her job the best she can is an excuse for her to invade others' privacy. Even if it isn't a surprise, they shouldn't be there regardless - and by telling players to "just put your pants on" all you end up doing is perpetuating this invasion of privacy, consent and common decency.

But why is women not being allowed to enter men's changeroom a question of equality? Should male reporters barge into the changerooms of the CWHL? Is the problem any better if you pose it as: men and women should be equal in their ability to walk into men's changerooms? To me that's ridiculous and false grounds to ask for equality, because one gender is generally okay in states of undress with members of the same and not opposite gender. I think that's the social norm and I see no reason why it should be sidelined to call Don out for being unequal.

This is what he actually said "I don't believe women should be in the male dressing room". Isn't that common sense? Isn't at least "I don't believe men should be in the female dressing room" common sense? He even contextualizes it with his own experience after. When he says "I don't feel women are equal. I feel they're above us. I think they're on a pedestal and they should not be walking in when naked guys are walking in. And some guys take advantage of it and I don't think (they) should be." Oh my goodness. Reading/listening comprehension people - he doesn't think women are inferior, more that there's a double standard in society in which women get away with doing uneasy stuff like this.

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I know what he said. I don't think he was saying women are inferior either.

Like I said, I think the interviews should take place outside of the change room. Works well for everyone involved. But until that happens, she should be there just as the men are.

With the men in women's change rooms, it is a false argument because it doesn't happen. Unfortunately, women's hockey doesn't have the same market. There is no same-level of demand for such post-game interviews and male reporters don't generally work that circuit. But, if there was already a precedent just like there is for women interviewing in male change rooms, then yes I would say he should be there. The solution is to move where all the interviews take place, not to say that you have to be eliminated from performing your job because of your gender.

That's her job. She knows it, the players know it, the league knows it, the network knows it. Same goes for anyone else involved (camera crew?). To fix it, you move where these post-game interviews take place, you don't remove her.

They're there on a professional level, both sides. It's not like waltzing into the opposite washroom

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With the men in women's change rooms, it is a false argument because it doesn't happen.
I think it's a perfectly fine argument. It shows how conducting interviews in a changeroom isn't professional at all (even though it is the practice) and against common decency and consent and shouldn't be happening. Does the fact that something always happens anyways legitimize it? It's like all of the other sexist behaviour - like groping - that we've pruned away even though it happened anyways and women used to see it coming.

It doesn't matter that women "don't have a choice", because that especially is a false argument. To say that a woman can't do her job without walking into a male changeroom is ludicrous because nobody is proposing that. I certainly don't think Don Cherry is saying "it's not a woman's place to be in a man's changeroom and if she's unable to do her job, so be it!". Her job isn't dictated by whether or not she can be in a changeroom with men, it's about getting some question answered - and a changeroom has nothing to do with that.

I think the men who are in a state of undress have the final say about who they're comfortable being in the same room with them. It's a question of consent, and if someone isn't okay with women in the changeroom, then you shouldn't force him to bear with it for the sake of "equality". And why should the players take the responsibility of making sure they're covered up if "they know it's gonna happen"? It's their changeroom to begin with, and it's their privacy that has to be respected as well. No one is going to get away with anything for the sake of their "equality" if it interferes with my consent. The reason men don't go into women's changeroom is because it's kinda clear that women don't get their privacy violated - but apparently the privacy of men is still open to debate, because I dunno, I guess a man like myself should just man up because it's natural and it's happening all the time, so I should just get over with it.

MacLean told the Toronto Sun on Sunday that he didn’t think Cherry meant to be disrespectful, and he made the facial expression because he knew what the reaction would be on Twitter for such a controversial statement.
Right on. The internet, especially something that forces messages to be dumbed down like twitter, can be a huge source of stupid. Some of the comments fail at reading comprehension. Take this for example, from an Olympic Gold Medalist:

“Just for the record. I have NEVER seen a naked player in a dressing room. Nor am I looking for one when I’m in there. #JobToDo”
Didn't he say that he was the one embarrassed? Did he say anything about women taking advantage of naked men? I don't think Cherry referred to ****s or anything related to that but apparently he believes female reporters are on the prowl for sweaty man-flesh >.>

What is wrong with the people in this country? Haven't these people passed that Grade 10 literacy test? The one that involves considering passages in context? smh.

Edit: apparently sloots is censored. What happens if we want to talk about slootwalk?